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Okay well I am helping a friend finish his ca swap. I did mine and it came out awesome. Well I did the wiring, and everything was good until we installed it in the car and found out the #4 injector had a short somewhere in the harness. We fixed that and got the thing going. We wired it for a sohc KA maf (maybe DE maf I don't remember it is the right one though) Well we hooked up the ecu and it ran fine for a bit then it threw a code 12. Checked the wiring and it was all fine. I tried my ecu and it ran fine. We shut the car off and then back on and it started doing it again. I tried the ecu in my car and sure enough it was fried now. I need any suggestions you can think of asap. I need an ecu to if you have one, my car is dead until then, or I go standalone. Sorry for the long post.

Cliff notes-motor set did not come with maf or right ecu-found a short internally in the harness for injector 4-got ka maf wired in correctly-bought correct ecu and started fine then fried the ecu-put my ecu in his car and it fried it too now it shows a maf code no matter what-I need an ecu and so does he

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!


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if youre trying to get a ka24de maf to work in it, it will fry the ecu, it did it to mine.

only a single cam maf will work.


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cheap_sticker05 wrote:Okay well I am helping a friend finish his ca swap. I did mine and it came out awesome. Well I did the wiring, and everything was good until we installed it in the car and found out the #4 injector had a short somewhere in the harness. We fixed that and got the thing going. We wired it for a sohc KA maf (maybe DE maf I don't remember it is the right one though) Well we hooked up the ecu and it ran fine for a bit then it threw a code 12. Checked the wiring and it was all fine. I tried my ecu and it ran fine. We shut the car off and then back on and it started doing it again. I tried the ecu in my car and sure enough it was fried now. I need any suggestions you can think of asap. I need an ecu to if you have one, my car is dead until then, or I go standalone. Sorry for the long post.

Cliff notes-motor set did not come with maf or right ecu-found a short internally in the harness for injector 4-got ka maf wired in correctly-bought correct ecu and started fine then fried the ecu-put my ecu in his car and it fried it too now it shows a maf code no matter what-I need an ecu and so does he

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
Self-off the stock stuff and go standalone. Ecu's are getting rare! So rare to the point that I'm not even interested in selling the ones I got.

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Dee- what is your reccomendation for a standalone. I am willing to go that way but am kinda lost and don't trust myself at this point to tune it.

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if you have the cash, get a motec m48 pro. hotness. if not, my msII cost me a whole $269 dollars or whatev. the kit costs. wolf 3d makes a nice one, sds is pretty solid from what i hear. you can always try haltech or microtech. every company makes them, just find out who is set up to tune what in your area.

oh wait, you're in orlando, just get an sds and have dee tune it.

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the sds is like 1000 isn't it. I have a haltech E8 I was gonna use for by KA-t but thats in indiana. do you have maps for the msII you would share?

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Contact me and I can fix the fried ECU's for $50 each...dont throw them away its an easy fix.

PS. Fcuk standalone if you dont need map support, lauch support etc. waste of money. period.

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and yes, i can probably set you up with a ca18 base map for the msII if you need it. your stock engine management can suck on my $256 stand alone sir.

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cheap_sticker05 wrote:Okay well I am helping a friend finish his ca swap. I did mine and it came out awesome. Well I did the wiring, and everything was good until we installed it in the car and found out the #4 injector had a short somewhere in the harness. We fixed that and got the thing going. We wired it for a sohc KA maf (maybe DE maf I don't remember it is the right one though) Well we hooked up the ecu and it ran fine for a bit then it threw a code 12. Checked the wiring and it was all fine. I tried my ecu and it ran fine. We shut the car off and then back on and it started doing it again. I tried the ecu in my car and sure enough it was fried now. I need any suggestions you can think of asap. I need an ecu to if you have one, my car is dead until then, or I go standalone. Sorry for the long post.

Cliff notes-motor set did not come with maf or right ecu-found a short internally in the harness for injector 4-got ka maf wired in correctly-bought correct ecu and started fine then fried the ecu-put my ecu in his car and it fried it too now it shows a maf code no matter what-I need an ecu and so does he

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
so your tell me that the ECU I sold you worked you guys just cooked it????

Mind paying to replace **** you broke since I graciously gave back the 100 bucks cash you bought it from me for?

this was for tristans car right?

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BEST1TUNING.COM wrote:PS. Fcuk standalone if you dont need map support, lauch support etc. waste of money. period.
I understand you are trying to sell a product, but that is all you list as "upgrade", I hope you are jokng.

Rom editors are great, but they do not offer what a true standalone can (not talking about features).

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You have an E8 Ecu? I have Patch Harnesses for the E8 to the CA18DET. Since they are not wired up for the maf, just tape it all off, and run the map + IAT.

I also have base maps for the CA18DET... so You will be ready from the get go.

Get at me Monday!

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Not to thread jack or anything, and my question is concerning ecu/standalones, would a standalone pass emissions?(Not the visual, a diesel powered 240 would pass that where I am).

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It's all in the tuning man.

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It depends state to state, Motech and Haltech are used As OEM Smog legal equipment on some cars. But it is specific to your vehicle.

As a rule of thumb, anything that can trip the check engine light, use O2 feedback operation, and is replacing a OBD1 or older ecu is probably going to pass with flying colors.

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Oh Im not trying to SELL anything, I am trying to stress the potential of the stock ecu and NO I am not joking. If you are not talking about features...Im not sure what it is incapable of unless you the user are incapable. And you boy, can continue to suck on your own standalone....congratulations on getting sold because of your inability to learn anything besides how to write a check.

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johngriff- I sent you an e-mail

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BEST1TUNING.COM wrote:Oh Im not trying to SELL anything, I am trying to stress the potential of the stock ecu and NO I am not joking. If you are not talking about features...Im not sure what it is incapable of unless you the user are incapable. And you boy, can continue to suck on your own standalone....congratulations on getting sold because of your inability to learn anything besides how to write a check.
This is pretty much one of the worst examples of how to market your service/product that I've ever seen. Insulting people who support a different approach? Really...

I agree that it is possible to tune the factory ecu to control a high performance engine, will I ever do it? No. I don't want to spend the time and money to learn it, nor do I want to send it to you every time I swap injectors or need to make some other adjustments. If you can do it, great. If you're trying to sell your service/product, begin considering professional courtesy, please.

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^ exactly what I was thinking. +1k to John from RPSport.net He replied to me in like 10 mins and was very helpful and VERY PROFESSIONAL!

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I concur. If you know how to do the ROM tuning stuff, and you're ready to invest in the hardware necessary to tune and burn your own ROM's, more power to you! But I got my SDS used and cheap, and it works very well for me, I don't need a laptop and requires no "learning" to tune it. ANYBODY can tune this system right out of the box, ANYONE.

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im really not concerned with how you suggest I market my products especially in this forum since I was not intending to market anything. My products, services, customer support and dedication being above and beyond what other shops simply collect money on have proven to sell themselves. i know everyone who purchases my products by name and have NEVER had anyone unsatisfied. I do quality work and establish a relationship with everyone who shows an interest in what I offer...I do not put on a "professional" face and collect money. So continue to "market" your products and I will continue to be a fully dedicated 24 hour resource to any enthusiast who is interested...I can see alot of really GRAND marketing skills pushed on this website, and thats exactly why I started this business which is so much more than just a business. Am I marketing products ? no Im marketing some knowledge. I dont have "copy paste" websites with manufacturer information. I develop and test my own products and spend countless time and money to give people quality, less expensive tuning options and even options which no other company has given a **** about for simple reason that they wont "SELL" enough. I do it not inteding to make a fortune..but with the intention of making that option available and being compensated for my time. I often times dont make back HALF of the money or any compensation worth the time I have put in. I drive a damn 89 toyota camry wagon because all of my time and money goes into research to make these otions available and provide enough customer support to make them reliable as well...I get all of my satisfaction from highly tuning other peoples cars and having their competition wonder how the **** that thing is so fast when they just spent a whole **** load of money on bull****. I have become very good at uninstalling standalone EMS because some ******* hustled them something they didnt need and probably made someone like me look like a nut. I am a nut but I continue to do things people say cant be done or dont expect. I am a tuning enthusiast and compete with my knowledge instead of money and its never failed. What time does your shop close? because mine doesnt. I will answer the phone 24 hours a day for anyone who needs assistance..do you offer that? Im 22 years old and am 100% honest and NEVER try and hustle any one for anything..that was my whole pupose of starting this business. I started from absolutely nothing. so go **** urself. I dont have common courtesy where it isnt due. I dont go with the flow and I think outside the box...and I will continue to educate people on tuning through the stock ecu until you kick me off the site. I dont need this site for advertising...like I said my products advertise themselves. Im here to educate.
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WTF is wrong with you, you go saying your not trying to market yourself yet you just did. Half what you said pretty much was why you think your better than a shop so how the hell can you say not marketing yourself. And the fact that your pretty much telling everyone to go **** themselves wow, definatly doesnt sound like a person I wanna do business with, regardless if your like 7-11 open 24/7 it just seems like your a little ***** thats all.

So what if someone wants to go standalone, it doesnt mean they were sold on marketing BS. Standalones are most of the time better than OEM ecu's its all about precision control, not features. Also their are several standalones that do MAP and MAF so its not always about going to MAP douchebag. Plus the CA ecu is such garbage you can clearly see that it doesnt stay accurate in terms of timing, cause its got ****ty resolution. So take your attitude somewhere cause all your doing is making yourself look bad and asking for a butt hurting.

Thats fine if your all about giving knowledge but sheesh dont do it in such a *** manner.

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thank you Best1tuning for officially ruining this guys thread. Congrats.

Your business will fail. So suck on that.

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the guys thread was already ruined....instead of educating him they jsut sold him something...give me one bit of actual usable information you got from this thread to help the next guy with this porblem....I guess you just dont understand my point. The CA ECUs are great, if you know how you can scale them to have great resolution in boost and they can use any MAF sensor and thats what I offer.

I can jsut see how uninformed people still are about the stock ecu...because other people just keep throwing a standalone at them.


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ok you didn't help either, you just said give me $50 I'll fix your ecu. And than you go to say **** standalones because they suck.

So I dont know how you think your right or trying to prove a point when you did exactly what everyone did.

How are you helping him? so if he pays you $50 and you fix his ecu and he plugs it in and fries it again did YOU solve the problem? No you didn't.

The whole point of this thread is our ECCS system blows ****ing goats.

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BEST1TUNING.COM wrote:the guys thread was already ruined....instead of educating him they jsut sold him something
BEST1TUNING.COM wrote:Contact me and I can fix the fried ECU's for $50 each.....
looks to me that u were the first one to try to Sell him something that WILL not fix the problem of frying ecu's.

Quote »...give me one bit onf actual usable information you got from this site to help the next guy with this porblem....I guess you just dont understand my point. [/quote]you have given NO info to help this guy diagnose or solve his problem of frying ECU's. All u want to do is throw "fixed" ecus at it until he gets frustrated and goes and does the right thing and get standalone.

And u dont think we understand your point? You just made 3 uneccesary posts tellin us all to **** off, and **** ourselves. You have made a fool out of yourself

Quote »..and there are some people who want to educate themselves.[/quote]You have shown your ignorance already, so i guess you can only go up.

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He was going to throw them out liek junk! they arnt junk they are good. I was in the process of trying to help him with his problem. but i was told to "suck" on someones $256 standalone...HE DOES NOT NEED STANDALONE!!! thats just the only option you guys know aparently. The first step it fixing the ECU's and finding the problem.He even said he needed a NEW ecu...he doesnt he can fix those and have a few new ones for less than the price of 1. I am pretty positive that if he opens the ecu he will see it is shorted on the ign ON trace and especially since he is throwing MAF sensor error code...this is a common problem in the harnesses.
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Oh and no...your ECCS system is full of potential if you know how to use it. You think stuff is rare now? what happens if we jsut keep junking everything just cuz no one wants ot take the time to make somethign out of it. Please tell me why it blows goats because i have done CA's with the stock ecu and they have been awesome and no goats were blown in the process.

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Holy flame fest.

Few things. Standalones will control the engine better (we are talking good ones) than a rom editor. Saying a rom editor has better control over a motec system is crazy.

Where rom editors shine is: Plug and play, less hardware to buy (most of the time), and setup to control a/c and other stock options. Rom editors are only as good as the code.

BEST1TUNING.COM, You verifed the timing and "tip-in" values in your software?

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Absolutely man standalones are great when the setup is beyond what the stock ECU can handle. I definately agree with you on that. I jsut think too many people go this route when it isnt needed. What do you mean as far as ign? if your are talking about the ign. table then yes there is full acess to the 16x16 table. The software I use is not MY software it is a ROM editor software..I am working on software and a realtime ROM editor. Throttle tip in retard I do do not have control of.

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BEST1TUNING.COM wrote:Absolutely man standalones are great when the setup is beyond what the stock ECU can handle. I definately agree with you on that. I jsut think too many people go this route when it isnt needed. What do you mean as far as ign? if your are talking about the ign. table then yes there is full acess to the 16x16 table. The software I use is not MY software it is a ROM editor software..I am working on software and a realtime ROM editor. Throttle tip in retard I do do not have control of.
By far the most informative post you've made yet. Stick with this kind of stuff and forget all the bs from your other posts, it just makes you look like a jerk.


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