Please Help Car won't start after running!
shanglin i am a nissan dealership technician. try not to make your judgement so broad. you may have a problem at that dealership specifically. I understand your point of veiw on this and unfortunitly I also pretty much know about what you just experianced. I have worked with 3 different dealerships in my time as a nissan tech.I have also gotten oppertunities to speak with other tech from other dealerships all over the west coast. Some shops make it policy in some cases to not work on vehicles with extensive aftermarker add on parts. in part because some aftermarket parts are not built to the same standards nissan sets for their own parts. The other bigger reason is most of Nissan technicians are specifically trained to fix nissans and their knowleadge is based purely on factory specifications. Therefore when going into a job with parts they are not familier with it will take them longer to come to a confident diagnosis and be able to tell you for sure what is wrong with your car. I dont know if you have a strict emissions program in your state but if so and the program is run through private repair facilities see if you can locate one of those buisnesses and have the smog tech himself diag your car. here in california we have a very strict emissions program and in order to get a license you have to go through a course that is not manufacturer specific. I have done this so in turn i have more extensive training then just the car specific training. I guess my point would be each Nissan dealership is a private entitiy and one should not reflect on the other. again I am sorry you had that experiance with that dealer. if you need more help to go at this on your own let me know.
if you have not payed yet do this. ask them for a copy of the techs notes on what he has done that accounts for his time with your car. this should consist of detailed notes of all diagnostic steps he took and what the results were. this will be helpful if you wish to continue to try and diagnose it yourself
I guess I retrack my last statement and say that the NISSAN dealership I went to (I think in my opinion) is taking me for a ride(no pun intended). Basically my mods are engine wise: Injen intake, Hotshot header, custom exhaust, had MSD but returned that to stock just in case, advanced timing, other places i have upholstered interior, painted dash and other stuff, 4" tach which is not hooked up just mounted and thats about it. I don't feel that the I/H/E has anything to do with it in my opinion. I strongly feel its electrical. Like I said in the start of this thread that everything started after I tried to hook up the 2 wires to the speed sensor. I feel i shorted something cuz when I put the car down it that's when problems started so i had to replaced the MAF which is probably all connected with the cam sensor and tach signal and MAF. Which I did tell them also that thats what I thought the problem is. Well hopefully I get a call tomorrow and see what they say. I do appreciate your inside view on things and now I know what to ask for. If theres anything else just let me know. Thanks again i'll keep you all posted.
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Man Shanglin, that is fokking bullsheite!!! I have an Injen intake, advanced timing and "dump" pipe in place of the cat and they were able to diagnose mine. Go to the top on this one, they are really trying to rip you off just 'cause you car is hooked up!
Hope this works out in your favor Bro, again - Good Luck!
Hope this works out in your favor Bro, again - Good Luck!
Well they are trying something because they said they would have to up the estimate because the tech STILL did not find anything wrong. So I am picking up my ride soon to take it somewhere else ?? BUT he did tell me that my cam sensor was working and that my fuel pump is working but that the injectors or plugs (don't remember) were dry ? Don't really know what that means but I will ask for more detail on that(Maybe its fuel related?). Nistech I did ask for a detail sheet on what the tech did so hopefully I will get that and it will help my cause. I will keep you guys informed.
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Hope those azzholes burn painfully for screwing you over, I know how it feels!If the injectors are dry then you are not getting any fuel through. Could possibly be a very clogged/blocked fuel filter or just a plain old fuel pump gone bad. WTF are those idiot Nissan tech's doing, dumbazzes can't even figure out what is exactly wrong with a Nissan!?!
Do what I did and make a BIG AZZ scene when you come to pick it up, being sure to make them all look and feel like the idiots they are.
let me know what they came up with try to put it down as they the tech stated it so i can decifier it best as possible. all the mods you listed on your car all seem ok and would not interfear with diganosis except the injen intake. i am not familiar with what it is or does. so if you enliten me i could determine weather it would interfere or not. the dry statemnet they gave you could mean 2 different things. if the plugs are dry they are saying fuel is not getting into the cyl. if the injectors are dry they are saying you have no fuel to your injectors. i suspect they were reffering to the plugs. have you put a node light on the injector connect yet to see if the injectors are firing when this problem exists?
Injen is the manufacter of the intake. It is a direct replacement of the stock intake just better air flow and its polished. I did already change the MAF and that's working ok. As soon as I pick up the car and have it towed to my Dads bodyshop he has that node light I'll try that and continue to try to fix it myself with your guys help of course 
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.guy i am starting to think this alarm might have something to do with it more and more. is it an ignition kill type of alarm system. the viper i installed on my caprice is not its just the multi tone type. if it has gone off i know cause when i go to dissarm it. it chirps 3 times insted of 2 and if i rearm it with out starting the car after said incedent it chirps 2 times instead of once. just thought i would mention that since i re read this whole thread this morning.
And I do appreciate all ur guys help and honesty but like I said I had the alarm checked and its fine just a sensor on the hatch that makes it go off once in awhile. I'm going to double and triple check that to rule that out totally. I should be able to pick her up tomorrow and fine out what that tech sheet says and start from there. I'm not sure if she ever turned on for them(it looked like she did from the way its parked) I'll find out tomorrow. I'll let you guys know everything. Thanks again........ .......can't believe people try to take me for a fool.......
Well.....got the car checklist back....They marked it as code 1005 : unable to determine cause checked fuel pressure (40lbs); crank angle sensor- vehicle has spark - pulse at injectors- need more time. That's it and......no charge! So I have to have to her towed from there to another shop that was recommened to me.........
i wish i could see one of these infamous rb engines in person. hear all these great things about them but have yet to see or drive one. untill i came to this site the only thing i ever used to hear about anything related to the engine was how great that skyline was and many of rumours over the years that it would be marketed in the us. nothing more then that really knew nothing about them. and i work for nissan!..lol
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yea, get rid of that viper
I have a Viper alarm that came with the VW I am selling after 4 years of sucking my wallet dry(but that is a different matter). I have never seen a more finicky piece of electrical BS in my life. Sometimes it would chirp twice on arming, sometimes once, sometimes never. You'd think it wad dead until it went off 20 seconds after opening the door. Occasionally you couldn't disarm it without using the vallet switch, and sometimes it goes off for no reason at all. I know because I've been outside doing something else within eye and ear shot and there was no traffic, no wind, theives' or anything... To tell you the truth, it works pretty well in winter, but malfunctions several times during the summer. ie:most likely temperature related...
Get rid of that thing, especially if it has any type of "engine kill" capability. Only reason I didnt remove mine, is I was too worried that the guys who had the car before me had probably messed up the wiring so bad installing it, that if I removed it half the harness wouldn't work.
Get rid of that thing, especially if it has any type of "engine kill" capability. Only reason I didnt remove mine, is I was too worried that the guys who had the car before me had probably messed up the wiring so bad installing it, that if I removed it half the harness wouldn't work.
Man.....maybe it is the F#%#ing Viper. When I went to get it checked the install guys said it should not have an effect but they did not have time to look at it and I was stuck over there. It does have a lifetime warranty on the install so if these machanics that are looking at it cannot find whats wrong then I eat all my words and apologize to Nistech for not listening to him in the first place and taking it off. Man would I feel like an ***! Anyway those symptoms you explain as far as turning on for no reason etc. are the same exact ones I have. I don't even know where the valet switch is or how to disconnect it. Well I'm gonna check with the mechanics tomorrow afternoon and if they don't find anything I'm going to try to disco the alarm. I'll keep you guys informed and thanks everyone for your suggestions.