People Gunned Down While Hunting

[rousie13]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6551094/

I don't even know what to say about this. This guy had to be fuc*ed up in the head to do this and they should have stopped him a long time ago before he could do this. I feel so bad for those poor hunters. In times like that you try to take some cover and fire back at that mother fuc*er. I couldn't imagine being under fire while you try to hunt. Sound like your going to have to start wearing bullet proof vests and body armor to hunt.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I saw that on the news a day or so ago...

That's so messed up. You'd think after the first guy went down, they would have started blasting at him...really messed up.

[rousie13]

It said they had one gun between them.....why would you hunt with only one gun??

[SeVa-S13]

If they were staying together and weren't going to have some "who can kill the animal first" contest, why not?

[rousie13]

We hunt spread out a little bit from each other so we all have guns because you don't know where the deer will pop up. But thats not using deer stands, so I guess thats different.

[180crafter]

You guys all know how I feel about guns....

[tractorcrusher]

I couldn't imagine being under fire while you try to hunt. Sound like your going to have to start wearing bullet proof vests and body armor to hunt.

Did you even read the article that you posted? The shooting wasn't unprovoked, they said there was a dispute over using a deer stand on private property. Which means that they were probably arguing face to face...

It's not like the guy just went out into the woods one day and started picking off hunters.

tip of the day: don't piss somebody off who's holding a rifle.

[nismofly]

my roommate was in that area hunting when it happened, i know the whole story

ok he did sort of do it unprovoked...that story got it wrong, you really think he would tell them the truth about this, no hes trying to save himself

hunters from the twin cities go up in northern wisconsin/minnesota all the time and do stuff like this. he was on someones private property up there, sitting not far from their cabin even. when they came back from hunting they found him sitting up there and told him to leave. since people from the cities dont own any hunting spots like this, they will just go on private land to do their hunting. he got mad because they chased him off THEIR land, but he pretended to leave. he returned a short time later with the .50 cal sks semiauto and shot them in anger, because they chased him off. maybe they did shout racial slurs, but he started the shooting, thats a fact. the major news companies will get it right eventually.

[tractorcrusher]

he returned a short time later with the .50 cal sks semiauto and shot them in anger, because they chased him off.

Hmm... now that's f*d.

[vicki]

Yeah I read that a few days ago. People are retarded.

[Florida240sx]

We've had to chase people off my cousin's property before. We got 600acres. Usually between 5-15 people always there at the cabin. Usually get about 5 people a year coming onto our ground. Half do it not knowing the other half just ignore the sign. Only had a problem with them once though and it got taken care of without any injuries.

[madbouncy]

a .50 cal sks? A sks could never fire a .50 cal unless it's the pistol round. The gun is way too weak. Anyways, he'd have to do some crazy modification to it and if he did, the gun would have to come apart pretty much to put the next round in so it would take him a good few minutes to load each time, they did it with an ar15 and had to take apart the upper and lower receiver to load the next round. He might get away with being able to slide it in from the top but I don't even think it could pull back far enough for a .50 cal, don't have it with me to check. Though I garuntee you that the sping in it would've had to been beefed up like a mother ****er to keep the bolt from flying out of the gun. He'd probably have to have it just lock and stay locked till he unlocks it, if it blew back, especially wit something like a .50 cal, I wouldn't be suprised if it burned his face. I just can't see a gun like that absorbnig that kind of impact from a .50 cal, those rounds are huge, chances are he's just using some cheap chinese made sks. You can pick them up for under $100

[Mr1der]

You guys all know how I feel about guns....

yeah, if they had more, they coulda shot the ******* before he got the second or third shot off.

not trying to start a flame war or anything, but you guys all know how I feel about guns

[Onizuka]

he returned a short time later with the .50 cal sks semiauto and shot them

LOL where did you get that from? the SKS is concidered a relic (made in soviet russia in the 50's, soviet sub-states and china in 60's and 70's) and was never made in 50 cal.



Fixed 10 round magazine, wood stock, historic, old. You can buy this gun out of a magazine for less than $150 shipped right to your door with a curio & relic license.

That dude had some sick mental problems to shoot people over nothing.

[nismofly]

actually i got that from the news story, i knew they couldnt get anything right but the only guns i know go into planes (gau-8, mmm). it said in the story 7.62mm, which is .50 cal. maybe did they mean 7.62 cal.?

[Onizuka]

The SKS uses standard russian 7.62X39mm, no where near the size of a .50 caliber round.

Here is a comparison of a 50 cal round next to handgun ammo to give you an idea:

[BaliLover]

a 7.62mm is FAR from a .50 caliber. 7.62 mm is equal to .30 inches, so it is closer to a .30 caliber. Its the competitor to the US made .223 Caliber rifle round, which is just slightly larger than a .22

A 7.62 rifle round is smaller in diameter than a 9mm pistol round. Hell, it smaller than a .40 or .45 or most commonly used pistol rounds. I can only think of a few that are smaller.

.50 Caliber seems to be a term that the news media likes to use because it sounds much scarier than .30 caliber or 7.62mm, the same way they refer to rifles of anykind as "Automatic Assault weapons," even if they don't meet the criteria of an assault weapon.

[Nismo_Freak]

When keepin it real goes wrong... /Chapelle

[BaliLover]

The SKS uses standard russian 7.62X39mm, no where near the size of a .50 caliber round.

Here is a comparison of a 50 cal round next to handgun ammo to give you an idea: image removed to avoid being repetative

Don't forget that there is also a .50 caliber handgun round that doesn't look so monsterous.

[Dirtylou]

For real. I wanted to laugh when I saw that post but it's a messed up situation.

[nismofly]

o whoops i just remembered im thinkin the wrong gun, ya i must have been a 7.62mm, .50 cal is 12.7mm round. my bad, haha. ya like i said im more of a m61 and gau-8 type of person, i dont know much about handguns. gau-8 has to be the coolest gun ever, no argument. even army people i know say that...

either way the size of the round is off topic, he killed 5 people pretty much because they caught him trespassing and he was mad...

[gabossie]

6 down, 6 billion to go...

[nismofly]

it cant be done fast enough captain, we need more power...

[yelnatsch517]

it cant be done fast enough captain, we need more power...

LOL.

The SKS uses standard russian 7.62X39mm, no where near the size of a .50 caliber round.

Here is a comparison of a 50 cal round next to handgun ammo to give you an idea:

Whoa, that is one huge bullet. What is the recoil like shooting that thing off?

Did you even read the article that you posted? The shooting wasn't unprovoked, they said there was a dispute over using a deer stand on private property. Which means that they were probably arguing face to face...

It's not like the guy just went out into the woods one day and started picking off hunters.

tip of the day: don't piss somebody off who's holding a rifle.

Actually, its more like don't piss of somebody who isn't scared of killing you. Like what happened here, he came back with that gun.

Hey, is it legal to hunt with an m4a1? Those guns look cool. Wait...is it even legal to own one of those? If those are legal, how about m60's or m249's?

[nismofly]

i still say the gau-8 is your best bet:

[nismofly]

and heres the round for it, 30mm, 11.5in long, weighs almost 2 lbs. the blue part is depleted uranium.

[MaineExport]

Fixed 10 round magazine, wood stock, historic, old. You can buy this gun out of a magazine for less than $150 shipped right to your door with a curio & relic license.

That dude had some sick mental problems to shoot people over nothing.

Well, all true except the 10 round fixed mag. I have one sitting in the next room with (aftermarket) pistol grip, synthetic folding stock, and a couple original 30 round bananna clips.

It's a super cheap super fun rifle. It is also the most accurate, reliable, and consistant gun I've ever used. One of the clips has a crappy spring so it jams once in a while... but the rifle itself never jams and is as accurate on the 30th shot as it is on the 1st. A lot of semi-autos in its price range flex under that much heat and stress. Then again... they aren't designed to deliver that many rounds in a matter of 6 or 7 seconds!!!

[BaliLover]

Well, all true except the 10 round fixed mag. I have one sitting in the next room with (aftermarket) pistol grip, synthetic folding stock, and a couple original 30 round bananna clips.

It's a super cheap super fun rifle. It is also the most accurate, reliable, and consistant gun I've ever used. One of the clips has a crappy spring so it jams once in a while... but the rifle itself never jams and is as accurate on the 30th shot as it is on the 1st. A lot of semi-autos in its price range flex under that much heat and stress. Then again... they aren't designed to deliver that many rounds in a matter of 6 or 7 seconds!!!

Then your SKS isn't a factory original anymore. ALL SKS's came with a 10 round fixed magazine that required stripper clips to load. You COULD obtain a military issue 20 rd fixed magazine, but its still fixed and requires stripper clips to load. Any detachable mag is either aftermarket, or you don't have an SKS, you have some AK variant.

[Dano]

so sad, that sucks!

-Dan

[MaineExport]

Then your SKS isn't a factory original anymore. ALL SKS's came with a 10 round fixed magazine that required stripper clips to load. You COULD obtain a military issue 20 rd fixed magazine, but its still fixed and requires stripper clips to load. Any detachable mag is either aftermarket, or you don't have an SKS, you have some AK variant.

Well, I just did a little research and discovered what we (it's my brothers gun... I just get to play with it) have is AK-47 clips. I guess I'm not understanding the "fixed magazine" part of what you're describing. The AK-47 "duck bill" magazines attach to the rifle without ANY modification. In all the pictures and descriptions I've seen the SKS comes with the 10 round mag that you mentioned... but it looks like it has a detachable stripper clip?

I assume the AK clips block off the fixed magazine and simply clip into the stripper clip receiver.