pacesetter vs hot shot vs dc headers

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cwtt
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Although you make va
nuts510 wrote:I know everybody is screaming Turbo, yes one can make a lot of power with the Turbo, but I don't see anybody talking about money, let's see by the time you buy Turbo get it stuffed on your car that some sort of fuel management you'll probably spend 2000 plus dollars and I've noticed an awful lot of these Turbo swaps for the 2.4 motor seem to have problems with gasket leakage and in general a lot of them don't work very well. If you have the money and SR or many other motor swap and do this car nicely. but what so many people don't understand is one must stay in budget. Installing a header with at least a 2 1/2 exhaust and an intake does make it a significant difference in the way these motor run. You will only see about a 10 to 15 horsepower increase but one thing you will notice above 4000 RPM's the engine is much comfortable and makes a noticeable improvement in drivability. All the headers you mentioned help I like the DC sports mainly because it fits up under the car nicely. If you are going other modifications you might benefit more from a long runner Header like the pacesetter.if you look closely at the cheaper headers you will notice the runners are not the same length, this matters that's why the better header companies work so hard to make him the same length. Well I hope this helps
Although you make a few valid points, they are invalid in this thread. If you would have read the entire thread you would realize the thread starter said he would be doing extensive internal work including cams, pistons etc which would shoot your NA buildup cost well over $2000. So that again favors a turbo setup as far as price goes.

I applaud both sides of the turbo vs all motor setup debate for having such a civilized discussion. What it comes down to is what your total budget is and how much power you are looking to make. The thread starter says he is going to be swapping out internals and trying to make an all motor setup. My point was since he is spending that much money on an all motor setup, you might as well have a nicely built turbo setup which will make a lot more power.

But everybody has their own prefrences. I was merely trying to point out that when you do a correct all motor build, it is almost as expensive as doing a correct turbo setup.


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240sxmech
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All that work he did and guaranty he doesnt hit over 210 to the wheels on the dyno ,been there done that, build the engines ,have a built n/a and i know that n/a is not the way to go on a ka engine, cant hit the higher numbers.

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oneline180
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nWoRCD89 wrote:does anyone know what the dyno results of dc sport, pacesetter, and hot shot headers are? i know these are the 3 most commonly used headers in a na build.
The best power gains i have seen come from the DC Sports header. I believe it was somewhere around 10+ hp and 12-14 lb-ft. I've been looking at purchasing one as well. I think that the OBX header on there is a copy of it... which is probably the one i'll buy...

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SHIFTVAX
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It ultimatel
98s14inaz wrote:Yes, a long time ago when I thought bolt-ons were the greatest thing ever. I had all the dyno sheets and crap tucked into my receipt book but threw it away after the car was totaled and parted out, I didn't see a point in keeping that stuff. In Phoenix we had access to several dynos one at technodyne (no longer exists) and one at Intense. Just about every az240 meet we had at a shop resulted in cars on the dyno. It was embarrassing to spend all that money just to have 150whp tops. Then the next guy rolls up with a stock sr and a boost controller and puts down 210whp.

Even IF the kid still wanted to stay na and does a high compression build etc...what is he going to hit 170-180whp? I've seen beat on stock sr's do that for the same money he would pay for machine work.

The na 4cyl mod money would be better spent buying a daily beater and modifying the 240 the right way with either a built ka turbo project or a motor swap...sr, rb,ls1, vq...pick one.

I'm not trying to $hit on this guy's thread. I'm trying to inject a little reality into is so he doesn't get his hopes up. I apologize if this turned into a $hit slinging contest.
Ultimately depends on how much power you want, a bit more(Bolt-ons) alot more(turbo). Everybody doesn't want to do that even thought thats the way the most power is acheived.

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98s14inaz
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What I loved best about turbo was I could drive around at 7psi and 250whp getting reliable 30mpg and then turn up the boost with a button and have 325whp. Do what you want...when it all comes down to it I don't pay your credit card. If you didn't want alternate opinions you shouldn't have posted on a public forum.

FUNS14
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Turbo mag used DC on a project car and saw some decent gains, you should be able to find them on the website.


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