OPINION NEEDED

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72nismo
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OPINION NEEDED

Postby 72nismo » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:19 pm

I am doing a custom set with a kA24 on a Datsun 510. My question is regarding the fan and the top water hose that goes to radiator. I am trying to install fan but the center of the motor on the fan is rubbing on the hose. Does anybody know if that affects the fan. Will it get to hot were it will not work properly? And because I am putting 21 fans there is no moving to the side. Thanks


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Re: OPINION NEEDED (72nismo)

Postby KApwr'd510 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:08 pm

You will likely rub a hole in the hose. It won't happen fast but it will happen.

Joe

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Re: OPINION NEEDED (72nismo)

Postby ace0073 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:26 am

im running a ka also with big fans and no problems. if you could post some pics i may be able to help because based on your description im not sure exactly what is rubbing and where and how much, etc.

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Re: OPINION NEEDED (ace0073)

Postby 72nismo » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:51 am

I dont know how to post a picture here.What kind of radiator are you using? If u can give me your email I can send you a picture. Or you can email me at [email protected]

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Postby Mr1der » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:00 pm

if you've got a way to host the pictures all you need to do is link them in [img ] [/img] tags.

just take the spaces out

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Heres the link for PICTURE

Postby 72nismo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:51 am

http://s129.photobucket.com/al...p.jpg
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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (72nismo)

Postby KApwr'd510 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:07 am

After looking at the picture I changed my opinion. You will rub through the hose in no time. You need to lower the fan so the motor doesn't hit the hose or modify the hose outlet. I have almost the same set up and the fan motor clears.

Why can't we post pics from our computer like we used to???????????

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (KApwr'd510)

Postby 72nismo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:40 am

What kind of radiator are you using?? Also I think one of the issues is that my motor was not mounted far back enough.

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (72nismo)

Postby KApwr'd510 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:33 pm

I'm using a custom built radiator from the local radiator shop. Not as nice as yours (it's not aluminum). It is thick though. I can send you a picture if you want. I don't know how to post pictures. We use to be able to upload pictures from our computer but that feature is gone now. How did you mount the motor?

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (KApwr'd510)

Postby Mr1der » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:39 pm

KApwr’d510 wrote:
Why can't we post pics from our computer like we used to???????????

Joe
same reason nico no longer has free pic hosting I think, wrecked our bandwidth...too many users for it now.

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (KApwr'd510)

Postby 72nismo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:45 pm

I got my motor mounts from TSR back in maybe yr. 2000. I just installed the motor with those and that is were the motor sat. I dont know what other thing I can do. I even had the top water outlet cut so the hose could be closer to motor and give me more room but it still hits. I am going to cut some of the front of the car and see what happens. You can email me pics to my email adrres [email protected]

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (72nismo)

Postby KApwr'd510 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:38 pm

Take a look at Sebastian Hills car. He did the same thing as you and I basically copied his install because I liked the way he did it. I just had to make all my own parts Mario from TSR wasn't making them anymore. I made my own oilpan so I didn't have to reverse the crossmember like many do. I sent the pics.

Link to Sebastian's carhttp://dimequarterly.tierranet....html

Outside question "where are the picture hosting sites?". I want to get set up so I can post pictures like others do.

Joe

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (72nismo)

Postby ace0073 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:40 am

ok, so mine isnt quite that bad but here is what id probably do.....first, remove that water inlet tube from the engine and cut the end off. angle it upward slightly and have it re-welded. then (if you havent already), cut into the front frame (panel where hood latches) about an inch or three (whatever works) and move the radiator forward. finally, get a pre-bent (angle-formed) lower radiator hose. hopefully that will give you clearance. another route is to get the water inlet from a z24 style motor (80's nissan trucks) which is much shorter than the ka inlet. personally, i did both and ended up using the early model water inlet. let me know how it goes. hope this helps...at least a little

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (KApwr'd510)

Postby ace0073 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:48 am

hey there KApwr'd 510 go to http://www.picshome.com, its the best for pic hosting and its free. by the way, i see you are in lemon grove. Id like to see your car if possible...i have a KA turbo 2-door. i live in LA area but i am from SD and i am down there almost every other weekend. maybe we can chill out sometime...not too many 10's around n e more.

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Re: Heres the link for PICTURE (ace0073)

Postby KApwr'd510 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:22 am

Thanks for the info. Your welcome to come by anytime. Just let me know when your going to be in San Diego and I'll give you my address and number.E-mail [email protected]

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What size exhaust

Postby 72nismo » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:25 am

are you guys running if you have a KA-T ??? I just finished my set up and I am using my existing 2 1/4' dia pipe for now but I think i will upgrade to 2 1/2" when io change my rear crossmember.

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Re: What size exhaust (72nismo)

Postby ace0073 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:20 am

not quite sure what u mean by 'are u guys running' did u mean what are u guys running...in terms of exhaust? well, if so I am running 3 inch all the way out. i modified my rear crossmember to fit the exhaust. put a 4in tube in the xhaust hole. i could help u do yours if you want, unless you are just gonna buy one. or better yet, i could charge you to do yours(lol)! but if you just want help, thats free, i guess. i have 3in downpipe too, by the way. got any pics of the car, engine bay??? post'em!

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Re: What size exhaust (ace0073)

Postby 72nismo » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:38 pm

Yes I meant Any Turbo set up guys. Ok At this point I left the stock exhaust pipe so I can run the car. I only have a 2 1/4" dia pipe right now. I already have a modified crossmember but I dont remember what size hole is in it. So would it be best to run a 3" exhaust. Also I just found out that my ECU that was modified by Jim Wolf Technology is only set up to run with the stock set-up. I was told I need to take back to JWT to be upgraded to run the bigger injectors & turbo. So I called and yes they said to bring in the computer to be modified. What computer set up are you running?? So at this point I am bummed that I cant drive it because I dont want to mess things up. I will try to post pics. Here are some pics of my car and engine set up.That engine pic was taken on Tuesday. By the way were are you located at? Do you have ashop or do you work on your car at home? Were did you get the exhaust done at? Here's my # 818-391-4438. I live next to Downey Ca.Do you have any pics of your set up? Thanks for responding




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Re: What size exhaust (72nismo)

Postby ace0073 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:31 am

I am also running JWT, 72lb injectors, cobra maf program. Unfortunately, just blew my engine (turned up boost to 1 bar on stock bottom end)......poof! I am now building a monster ka26de. i work in my garage and i have done quite a bit of fab work. gimme a holla and you can come through if you like or i can hit u up sometime. are you going to the 510 show on the 4th? hit me up and let me [email protected] i will post some pics when i get home.

by the way.....car looks great!!!!

heres the engine bay from an old thread:

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Re: What size exhaust (ace0073)

Postby 72nismo » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:54 pm

Sorry to hear that. So you know how to build motors? Sure i will let you know when ever im in the area. Were abouts are you located at?Also you did'nt say were you had your exhaust done.I'll let you know if i'm going to the Aug. 4 show. If you dont mind giving me your cell # I can call you so we can talk. Your 510 looks great also. I will be driving down to JWT on Friday to modify my computer. I'll keep in touch

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Re: What size exhaust (72nismo)

Postby ace0073 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:02 am

ill email u the info
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Re: What size exhaust (ace0073)

Postby 72nismo » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:16 am

Cool.


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