only R33 Legal now?

[kim]

Hello,

I haven't been on this site for a while but came back today to check out some news I recently came across. I was surfing the net and come across info that NHTSA has deemed the R32 and R34 and some R33 not fit to import anymore effective March 1, 2006. The only ones that are ok are the GTR R33 manufactured Jan 1, 1996 to June 1, 1998.

Questions I have:

1st; has anyone else heard of this?2nd; Does modification still need to be perfromed to make them safety worthy and registerable?

[xsvhp]

I've heard the same. There have been some recent cofiscations without compensation by the feds. A local dealership had one of their's taken; feds came by with a car carrier and took it away with NO compensation. OUCH!

I heard the reason for such stems from incorrect, non-DOT glass, and similar silliness. By the way, Skyline glass is unique, there is NO DOT equivalent. Same scenario concerning side-door beams, etc.

[slowlyevolving]

Hello,

I haven't been on this site for a while but came back today to check out some news I recently came across. I was surfing the net and come across info that NHTSA has deemed the R32 and R34 and some R33 not fit to import anymore effective March 1, 2006. The only ones that are ok are the GTR R33 manufactured Jan 1, 1996 to June 1, 1998.

Questions I have:

1st; has anyone else heard of this?2nd; Does modification still need to be perfromed to make them safety worthy and registerable?

Yep....sure have heard of it.

If you get an R33 and try to bring it to the states...of course, it has to go through an RI and it will need to have the compliance work done on it. From what I have been told, J.K. Technologies will do the compliance work but, it is going to cost you a pretty penny $$$$ I also heard that GNK Auto will do compliance work for you too! I haven't heard how much they charge though.

[kim]

Yep....sure have heard of it.

If you get an R33 and try to bring it to the states...of course, it has to go through an RI and it will need to have the compliance work done on it. From what I have been told, J.K. Technologies will do the compliance work but, it is going to cost you a pretty penny $$$$ I also heard that GNK Auto will do compliance work for you too! I haven't heard how much they charge though.

I heard JK were the ones that made the mistake and brought the attention of NHTSA.

[slowlyevolving]

I heard JK were the ones that made the mistake and brought the attention of NHTSA.

From what I have read, J.K. did the testing for the R33 and stretched the test results across the R32 and R34 as well to say they were able to be imported as long as compliance work was done. Basically it was them that messed up (to my understanding). If you go here NHTSA Docket Search and type in docket number 5507, it will bring up the petition filed by J.K. If you look at it, you will notice they were petitioning eligibility for the 1990-1999 gtr's and gts's. There were no specified models (R32, R33, R34). So when Nissan Motor Co. put they're two cents in, NHTSA found that the petition filed by J.K. only had the epa, crash test data, etc.... for R33's (gts's and gtr's) manufactured between Jan 01 1996 through Jun 31 1998.

If you go here, NHTSA Conforming Vehicles scroll until you see nissan on the left and the info is in black and white.

[zoborax]

Actually, All skylines have DOT glass. My old GTS-T had the DOT *** etched in the bottom corner of each window.

[zoborax]

GNK is NOT in the business of Skyline compliance anymore. They have been fined $140,000 by the US EPA for being dishonest about the years of the vehicles they worked on. ALL of them were 1995 model years, but EPA did research at Nissan and found that numerous cars were erroneously marked. It's funny. One of the Chassis numbers was BCNR34 (which is an R34!). Not to mention the correct Chassis number for R34 GTRs is BNR34.

Check it out!

http://www.epa.gov/oecaerth/re...6.pdf

[GroundPilots]

hey kimi have a r33 gts-t fs and some other r33 gtr's and a r34 v spec......i can get papers for all the cars to be US legal......come check them out for yourself!!...the cars and the papers![email protected]

[w1ngzer0]

lol wow.... can i give your email to the orange county police?

[GroundPilots]

wow your a fag and a retard.......

[greatgonzer]

lol wow.... can i give your email to the orange county police?

Why would you say somethinig so idiotic? People are trying to get skylines here through loopholes and its working. Don't stop this. Help to continue and keep the loop holes open so that we can see more of these beautiful cars on US roads. Heck I want one and am VERY close to getting one. THere are quite a few companies bringing over the chassis separate from the engines and them assembling them on US soil. THen you can register it as a grey market vehicle and legally drive it on US streets...

[GroundPilots]

[toughguyjr]

That's the beauty of living in Canada . Just have to wait 15 years and then get it safetied at Canadian Tire!

>>lol wow.... can i give your email to the orange county police?

Anyway, I would hope that no one would stop anyone else from getting one of these beauties.

Peace

[starkos14]

Why would you say somethinig so idiotic? People are trying to get skylines here through loopholes and its working. Don't stop this. Help to continue and keep the loop holes open so that we can see more of these beautiful cars on US roads. Heck I want one and am VERY close to getting one. THere are quite a few companies bringing over the chassis separate from the engines and them assembling them on US soil. THen you can register it as a grey market vehicle and legally drive it on US streets...

[DarkBlueSr240]

I am in the process of trying to have one shipped over through the company I work for I just can't find one that I want I am looking for an r33 in midnight purple. I need the engine and trans pulled though so if anyone knows of a good site id appreciate it.

[SullivanRacing06]

or you could get a legal one n use a ri

[lilgookiemonsta]

There is no such thing as a legal Skyline. R33 or not, all are considered illegal. The only Skylines that were and are allowed in the U.S. today are the cars brought in by Motorex. Believe all you want but its not gonna change. Cars that are not Federally registered can be taken at any given time without warning. Just because a car is state registered doesn't mean squat. Federal > State.

[Gold Digger]

There is no such thing as a legal Skyline. R33 or not, all are considered illegal. The only Skylines that were and are allowed in the U.S. today are the cars brought in by Motorex. Believe all you want but its not gonna change. Cars that are not Federally registered can be taken at any given time without warning. Just because a car is state registered doesn't mean squat. Federal > State.

While some of what you say is true, not all of it is.

The R33 from 1996-1998 IS legal for importation, according to the NHTSA's website. It's only drawback is trying to get the car to work with an OBD II system. You can get all the modifications done to the chassis and body (and whatever else there is...forgive me, I'm a bit sauced at the moment), but it won't mean s$#t till you get your OBD II system installed and working.

Once that's been done, you might have a fighting chance to get fed clearance to register it legally.

[Morph]

No the R33 is fun and Fun is Illegal in the US. You can get it imported but be prepared to pay a RI well over 20k to have it "legalized". Its retarted if kit cars are leagal these should be as well, no reason for them to be illegal.

[Eaze]

So there is no way at all an R32 could be legal in the United States? Even with this RI work done?

[Morph]

If its already here like your profile suggests then i dont think so. AFAIK the work has to be done before the car is registered.

[GTS4-R]

I've heard the same. There have been some recent cofiscations without compensation by the feds. A local dealership had one of their's taken; feds came by with a car carrier and took it away with NO compensation. OUCH!

I heard the reason for such stems from incorrect, non-DOT glass, and similar silliness. By the way, Skyline glass is unique, there is NO DOT equivalent. Same scenario concerning side-door beams, etc.

lol my r32 has DOT etched on every piece of glass on it

[Count Zero]

To all who say "more power to the loopholes", I can just say this: *facepalm*

You do realize that there are NO LEGAL LOOPHOLES.Doing that s*** does two things.1. Breaks at least 4 Federal laws, if not more2. Makes it all that much harder to get the NHTSA and EPA to be willing to work with a *REAL* and legitimate RI to start bringing them legally.

[GTS4-R]

well we're gonna be flooded with 89 GTR's come 2014

[themadscientist]

And they will all need a couple of grand in rust repair. Be ready gents.

[Count Zero]

And they will all need a couple of grand in rust repair. Be ready gents.

DOn't get me started...sheesh.

And yea, I'm perfectly aware and ready for the fact that my car's value will drop by about 75% overnight.But that's 4 years from now & I'll either have a different car by then anyway, or decided to keep the GT-R til it dies for good.

[jbracy7]

what about the older skylines the pre 89's i fell in love with them ugly things a yr ago can they be imported all i want is the chassis any way. same qustion for a r32/r34 if i just buy the chassis is it still illegal id want to put something with 8cyl in it (vh/vk)

[starkos14]

the skyline is now on the list of vehicles you can no longer import. to import ANY chassis skyline, appropriate race vehicle papers must be filed, in some cases, years before importing. as for the r33 chassis being legal, that was the only chassis the us govt has crash test info on done by motorex.... rip

[Count Zero]

If a Skyline is 25+ years old, from month of manufacture (per VIN tag), it's exempt.

So yes, as long as it was made in March 1985 or earlier, you can import and title/license them just fine.

The R33 is *technically* importable, but importing is only the first step. Then it has to go through compliance conversions before Customs will release the car out of the Import impound.That requires someone who has another layer of approval from NHTSA, and right now (as far as I know), JK Tech is the only company that has that.

But they aren't doing it (again, as far as I know) because their conversion process doesn't include OBD-II.So technically, their conversion authority would only be for the 1995 model year, which just happens to be the one year NOT allowed by the current import VCP.

And if you think that's a conicidence, keep dreaming. The VCP only allows 96-99 R33's for that very reason: ODB-II requirments, which no one has figured out yet.

[starkos14]

its a shame there was no US rb powered car... that would solve that issue. at least you can use obdII supra ecu's on jdm tt engines to pass emissions