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Daunttless wrote:It has to be a buck though, and it has to be angry after you stab it, you also need to catch it on video. : )
That's where you smack that b*tch buck in the face, and tell it to die. If you're a REAL man, it will do as you say and quietly sit down and bleed to death. That's what it did when I killed my first deer w/ a knife.

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Team503 wrote: The other idea behind the sticker is visibility - the more an average person sees that gay people are everywhere, from every walk of life, the more likely that person is to display tolerance. Make sense?


Yup, makes sense. I see your point, and I have always understood that to be one of the reasons for the stickers. But I still disagree, and out of respect (and other reasons) I won't agrue the point.

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Daunttless wrote:I still vote for the knife approach, if you can kill a deer with a knife you've got my respect. : )
You know, Manute Bol killed a Lion with his bare hands in Africa. It was some a of coming of age, manhood, initiation kinda' thing. Good to see you're alive Danunt. It's also good to see some like-minded people on this board. I agree 100% that there is a double standard in the US, enforced mainly by the liberals in Congress. Don't you dare say that you're proud to be white. I don't like hunters, but that is my choice. And unlike a liberal lobyist, I'm not pushing for a law to make my view the only leagal way of thinking. I don't like the limitation of firearms that we, law abiding citizens, can carry. There are limitations on clip/round size and fully automatic is completly illeagal. What if we, at some point in the future, have to overthrow an unlawful, and unjust government. With the way gun laws are going we'll have to fight using bolt-action, single-shot .22 caliber hunting rifles. I say we should be allowed to have any of the standard issue millitary weaponry. Like it or not, that's the intention of the Constitution. That is the ultimate check and balance. <---Talk about a thread hijack.

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If I announce to somone that I'm straight I am a 'biggot'If I announce to somone that I own guns I'm a 'serial sniper'If I announce to somone that I go to church I'm a 'zelot'If I announce to somone that I have a fast import I'm a 'ricer'

hell.... if I was gay and anything but white I'd have a 100,000 a year job right now and nobody could fire me.....

It just sucks to be a straight white guy born into an upper middle class family..... because I can't blame the fact that my life sucks on anybody but me. Maybe I could be the next Jessee Jackson and 'help the poor people of the world'........ what do you say Adam, let's march on washington!

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Movingviolation240 wrote:what do you say Adam, let's march on washington!


Yeah.... the "Handful of Angry White Guys March"!! let's get on the bus!

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Atom12 wrote:I say we should be allowed to have any of the standard issue millitary weaponry. Like it or not, that's the intention of the Constitution. That is the ultimate check and balance. <---Talk about a thread hijack.


Ooooo, oooooo, I want an M249 SAW, Mk 19, and an M24 Sniper Weapons System. Oh, and throw in a year's supply of MRE's. Love that cheese tortellini!

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ive always wanted to go grizzly bear hunting with an axe :D

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repo man wrote:Ooooo, oooooo, I want an M249 SAW, Mk 19, and an M24 Sniper Weapons System. Oh, and throw in a year's supply of MRE's. Love that cheese tortellini!
I'd just want an M4 Carbine...the standard Army Ranger issued weapon. Laser sight, and an attachable grenade launcher...I forget the name of it but I'll look. :ylsuper Ahhhh it's the M203 grenade launcher.

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I'm all about the M4 with a SOCOM. : ) By God if I want a 200 round drum magazine on my M4, I better be able to buy it. Screw the SAW, its basically an M16, if it fired something bigger than a five-five-sixer I'd consider it. Barrett MA2 all the way. When you have to lay a tarp down in front of your gun so you can shoot the driver of the tank, while he's still sitting in the drivers seat behind 18 inches of armor plating, 1.5 clicks away - thats a real gun.

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maineimport wrote:Thanks AZ.. I thought you might enjoy that.

One should not go around saying, "Hi I'm Greg the hetero", or, "Hi I'm Bob the fag". In essence, that is exactly what they are doing.


hmmmmm. Maybe you should take down your canadian flag if your so against people identifying themselves.

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Daunttless wrote:I'm all about the M4 with a SOCOM. : ) By God if I want a 200 round drum magazine on my M4, I better be able to buy it. Screw the SAW, its basically an M16, if it fired something bigger than a five-five-sixer I'd consider it. Barrett MA2 all the way. When you have to lay a tarp down in front of your gun so you can shoot the driver of the tank, while he's still sitting in the drivers seat behind 18 inches of armor plating, 1.5 clicks away - thats a real gun.


Piss on the Barrett. No way I want to carry that bastard in the field. But, it's all about application. M4's are sweet, granted, but you can have all that mickeymouse**** that they hang on the front. Laser sight? PAC-4, cool, but no visible lasers. Of course, I don't want the PAC-4 on during the day.

The SAW will kill a man just as dead as an M60 or M240. It's smaller, lighter and you can carry more ammo. It doesn't have the range, but it sure as hell has the cyclic rate of fire.

I'll stick with the Beretta M9 for a sidearm. The SOCOM is a chunk and takes up too much space. I'm better with the Beretta anyway. :D

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Hi my name is Jay and this is my hetero lifemate Silent Bob

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ugh, the mark 23 is a work of art. =P Agreed that the SOCOM is a bit on the bulky side, but its enough to inspire fear, and if I'm close enough to be using a handgun, I want to be inspiring fear. Also, I completely agree, visible lasers suck. Also, there are so many better weapons than the SAW, I'm just not a fan. Although it is impressive when a marine shoots about 3000 rounds of amunition, sticking the barrels int he snow to cool them down. : ) Hehe, they were so warped they couldn't be used again, but it got the job done. : )

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Quote »You'd be better off being Asian. They have the highest income of all the races in America, including whites[/quote]

really?? SWEET!!

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Don't blame liberals for the representation in congress, the opposing sides - liberals and conservatives - are warped as an ideal now. Conservatives say that they want less government, but they try to place more restrictions upon what you say, democrats call themselves liberals, but the more publicized ones - Gore and Lieberman, are both strong supporters of what is probably the most restricting movement in the current era - censorship on the internet. Forget what your parents told you about your (or their) political party of choice, they're both telling you what you want to here. We no longer control the goverment, or the fate of the nation. Politicians no longer want to do good for their country, they simply voice whatever the polls tell them to say, and do whatever it takes to stay in, or gain office.

In other words, politicians are b#ll****, forget liberals and conservatives, belief doesn't matter anymore, only greed.From now on I do not consider myself affiliated with either of the two major political parties in the us, and refuse to categorize myself as such.

*hmmm...a little bit of hijacking on my own part;p

this matters more to me, so forgive me please my my degrating tact-

pull your heads out of your @sses, gays and the other races are still descriminated against today. If you don't see this, drive out of suburbia (a wretched concept of living) and go to any small town in the U.S., and spend some time there. In the south, the mere mention of being gay still can be a death sentence for a man. I have close friends who have been terrified about their sexual orientation leeking out, and have had to wait until college to come out. What are you so ****ing afraid of? You're allowed to display your sexuality openly, why can't they be?

Get over the white pride sh1t, white men still hold more offices in the government and more of the wealth in the U.S., other races are just catching up. Sure, there is threat of being sued if you fire a non-white non-male, but that's just to equalize the job situation. Open up your mind.

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oh yeah, and I'm straight and white and a male.

furthermore-try bear hunting-running down a hill with a gun chasing after an animal that can very easily kill you, that's badass. Add alchohol to the combination (guiness for strength) and you have a great time!

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Movingviolation240 wrote:hell.... if I was gay and anything but white I'd have a 100,000 a year job right now and nobody could fire me.....

It just sucks to be a straight white guy born into an upper middle class family..... because I can't blame the fact that my life sucks on anybody but me.


Do you honestly think minorities get free rides and are offered all the hot jobs (this is directed to all the angry white men out there)? Minorities really don't...affirmative action is hardly used anymore and 99.9% of minorities make it the same way white people do. Harvard actually turns away Asians because so many are enrolled there because their grades and SAT's are that good. Before you think minorities have it easy, try walking a mile in our shoes. The media only shows you want they want to show you, the drastic affects of Aff. Act. that occured in the early 90's. Minorities don't use minority status to make excuses for failure.

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GreekM3 wrote:hmmmmm. Maybe you should take down your canadian flag if your so against people identifying themselves.
I'm not Canadian chumly.... If you took the time to read my NAME, or perhaps look at my profile, you would have found out that I am in fact a Mainer. The Avatar is a joke that I won't bother explaning. And.... it is the exact same principle, I wouldn't say, "Hi I'm Greg the American" either. If someone asks, sure I'd tell them I'm a white, male, American, and I'm hung like a bull moose!! But NONE of those are identifying characteristics that I would put a sticker on my car to proudly display!!!! One's sexuality should not be an issue that they feel obligated to force upon people who really don't care!!! That, in my humble opinion, makes you a PERVERT!! Sexuality is great, but if you center your life around it... and spew it forth like a giant beacon, you're freakin lame!!! Geez, this is really getting annoyin!

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[quote=" GreekM3 [B The media only shows you want they want to show you [/quote]

While this is VERY true.. you will find that the majority of media in this country is EXTREMELY liberally biased, and falls in line with YOUR beliefs that you have generously shared with us. I would say that your views have more in common with today's media than I or a handful of other members here. You sound like a damn episode of Oprah for kripe sake! So before you tell us not to listen to the media... figure out where your information comes from. I suppose you called Harvard personally and inquired about the reasons behind their denial of admission to Asian students.

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maineimport wrote:I'm not Canadian chumly.... If you took the time to read my NAME, or perhaps look at my profile, you would have found out that I am in fact a Mainer. The Avatar is a joke that I won't bother explaning. And.... it is the exact same principle, I wouldn't say, "Hi I'm Greg the American" either. If someone asks, sure I'd tell them I'm a white, male, American, and I'm hung like a bull moose!! But NONE of those are identifying characteristics that I would put a sticker on my car to proudly display!!!! One's sexuality should not be an issue that they feel obligated to force upon people who really don't care!!! That, in my humble opinion, makes you a PERVERT!! Sexuality is great, but if you center your life around it... and spew it forth like a giant beacon, you're freakin lame!!! Geez, this is really getting annoyin!


Sorry about the canadian comment. My point was that people like to identify themselves. Are you saying the thousands of immigrant Americans that hang their native flag from their cars are wrong? People with political bumper stickers saying which party and canidate they represent is wrong? Whose to say whats right or wrong. I don't think you and I are.

And I do believe life is based around sex and sexuality. Its the #1 WANT and NEED of every women and man.

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GreekM3 wrote:Sorry about the canadian comment. My point was that people like to identify themselves. Are you saying the thousands of immigrant Americans that hang their native flag from their cars are wrong? People with political bumper stickers saying which party and canidate they represent is wrong? Whose to say whats right or wrong. I don't think you and I are.

And I do believe life is based around sex and sexuality. Its the #1 WANT and NEED of every women and man.


Well, I will concede this point... I WANT that fancy little hood piece in your signature!!! Political affilliations and bumper stickers showing ones heritage are a little different, but I can see your point for sure. The only way I can explain it; is that sexual preferences are fodder for PRIVATE consideration. Political ads on stickers are an effort to promote and persuade opinion. Flags are a matter of pride in heritage.... these are not bedroom topics. I'd rather explain to my son, what the Honduran flag on the Toyota 4X4 in front of us means, than explain the pink triangle on the powder blue civic next to us.

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maineimport wrote: I'd rather explain to my son, what the Honduran flag on the Toyota 4X4 in front of us means, than explain the pink triangle on the powder blue civic next to us.


Of course, me too. I wouldn't know what to say if I had a son. However, even if I didn't have to explain that I would have to explain why 2 men are holding hands or kissing in public. I don't want to explain why that is happening, but at the same time the world is changing and weather you or I like it or not acceptance must be made.

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Well, if he sees a man and woman holding hands, I can explain nature and "the birds and the bees". If he sees two men, or two women holding hands, then I have to explain, "deviant sexual behavior". That is in quotes because that is what it is technically refered to by the AMA! I don't want to hide anything from my children, but I will be damned if I can't have a say in HOW that material is presented. Fortunately, they will be blessed with a father who cares enough to do so instead of leaving it up to the media, popular culture, and educators!!!

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GreekM3 wrote:I didn't have to explain that I would have to explain why 2 men are holding hands or kissing in public. I don't want to explain why that is happening, but at the same time the world is changing and weather you or I like it or not acceptance must be made.


A true liberal, ladies and gentlemen.

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maineimport-that is how you would expain it.

I would explain it as two people satisfying their sexual wants/need for companionship in the way that they choose, just as any heterosexual couple would.

Why can't people accept homosexuals as sexual beings that simply like something different than heterosexuals, rather than "sexual devients"?

Why do you believe that your way is the only "right" way?

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Zebrahead wrote:A true liberal, ladies and gentlemen.


I am not a liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, indep. and have no political affiliation so don't label me.

I just think there are things that have to be accepted as time goes on and homosexuality is one of those things.

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Because by the AMA it is sexual deviancy, there is no way to reproduce.

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good god, when is this thread going to end? big deal the guy like butt sex, atleast hes got good taste in cars

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Lost_To_A_K-Car wrote:Originally posted by Daunttless "]Because by the AMA it is sexual deviancy, there is no way to reproduce.

Um, no, that is not the AMA's position.

For the record, it is not the position of American Psychiatric Association or the American Psychological Association. either.


It's not a 'position' K-car. This is the language they use in THEIR literature. It is not an opinion or a judgement!!! It literally means that it is sexual behavior that DEVIATES from the norm. It is a MEDICAL term. They also refer to butt sex between men and women as "deviant sexual behavior"!!! I'm not making a judgement call, and neither are they.... it is just the term they use.

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silviamirage wrote:maineimport-that is how you would expain it.

I would explain it as two people satisfying their sexual wants/need for companionship in the way that they choose, just as any heterosexual couple would.

Why can't people accept homosexuals as sexual beings that simply like something different than heterosexuals, rather than "sexual devients"?

Why do you believe that your way is the only "right" way?


If I found ANYONE explaining sexual satisfaction to a 3 year old, I'd shoot him in the face with my 12 gauge.

I don't believe that my way is the only right way. I'm more tolerant and realistic about this than most people I know. I'm not promoting hate, and I'm not saying it is wrong to be gay. I'm not saying I don't have gay friends, and I'm not saying I am better than a gay person. What I am against is SPECIAL rights for ANYONE!!! And I think that some of the practices that gays and heteros enguage in are WRONG when displayed outside of their own privacy. Sexuality, no matter what kind it is, belongs between those that are enjoying each other. Outside of that, I wish people would keep it to themself. So, if you think I am wrong to believe that people sholdn't force their sexuality on others.. you're entitled to side with the perverts.


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