On avearge what should a 240 really cost?

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We all know abut the drift tax and it seems now every ad you see for a 240 says something like "I got it to make a drift car but it didn't work out" or "would make a great drift car" followed by some ridiculous price. So I ask what should a 240 really cost? just on average, so people can sort through some of the crazy prices. Averages for s13s and s14s.

Ive seen kinda beat s13s for 3k+ which I think I find a bit excessive. I'm not sure one should be that much over 2k, but I don't really know.

I don't know anything about s14s really, so I have no guess on price of those.


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got mine for 3 hour drive and 1000 bucks. 150k mikes and It ran perfect and no rust :)

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See that seems reasonable.

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See... I don't see $1000 as reasonable for a mechanically sound car in decent condition. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's value keeps dropping until it's worthless. IMO, there exists a point where a car stops depreciating and just holds a stable value depending on its operating efficency.

Yeah, most of the beatup-azz 240's you see on Craigslist? $1000? Sure. But one with reasonably decent interior/exterior/paint and no major mechanical defects? I say:
-$1200 to $1500 for piggy
-$1700 to $2300 for chuki and vert
-$3000 to $3500 for S14 zenki
-$3800 to $4200 for S14 kouki


Past that, you could afford a Z32 instead.

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I find it strange that there are stock kouki s14's for sale in my area for $8,000+ which is twice as much as Simmode1 suggested and I think that his prices are spot on what 240s should be.

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Well i got mine and all it needed was a fuel filter. So i guess i got lucky then :cool:

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got my 96 s14 for 4k, got my 89 s13 coupe with less than 80k miles on all original parts, no rust for 2500. from what ive seen the more you pay for an s-chassis the crappier the car ends up being when you look closer.

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I paided $2500 for my chuki and $3000 for my Zenki. Both were virtually perfect.

Oh wait, my S13 had wack mismatched wheels and my S14 had a blown strut.

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simmode1 wrote:See... I don't see $1000 as reasonable for a mechanically sound car in decent condition. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's value keeps dropping until it's worthless. IMO, there exists a point where a car stops depreciating and just holds a stable value depending on its operating efficency.

Yeah, most of the beatup-azz 240's you see on Craigslist? $1000? Sure. But one with reasonably decent interior/exterior/paint and no major mechanical defects? I say:
-$1200 to $1500 for piggy
-$1700 to $2300 for chuki and vert
-$3000 to $3500 for S14 zenki
-$3800 to $4200 for S14 kouki


Past that, you could afford a Z32 instead.
Yeah your right. I guess I worded my post wrong. He got a pretty good deal on that car I think.

Your price estimates do seem like reasonable averages.

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i sold my vert for 800.

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S14Kouki10 wrote:i sold my vert for 800.
Awww... :frown: Verts are kinda weird. Not everybody values them the same as coupes or hatches. I think they're dope but they're kinda niche, I guess... :gotme

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I think it's really depends on how it looks like. I think the average is 1500.

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Southern California is horrible when it comes to prices. I've seen S14 Koukis listed and selling for $12,000. At that point, you could just save up a little more and get an Evolution 8 or 2003-04 STI (much better cars for that price range).

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I don't know how trustworthy KBB is but a nice S14 kouki is priced at around $5,500

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KBB used to be accurate with fair prices. But it is influenced by market value and it is now therefore subject to Drift Tax. Face it, guys... nothing has changed about the cars, yet they have still risen in value & price. This is due to demand and dwindling supply. Prices will probably continue to rise as we continue to wreck them.

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Dire91 wrote:I don't know how trustworthy KBB is but a nice S14 kouki is priced at around $5,500
Yeah I generally prefer NADA prices, they seem to be a bit closer to actual value. KBBs always inflated,sometimes a lot, which is why when you go to a dealership to look at used cars they always give you the KB value when you ask.

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simmode1 wrote:
S14Kouki10 wrote:i sold my vert for 800.
Awww... :frown: Verts are kinda weird. Not everybody values them the same as coupes or hatches. I think they're dope but they're kinda niche, I guess... :gotme
verts, on the other hand, are hit or miss. some people like them and some don't. me, personally, I don't like them. nissan should have made them as coupe or hatches.

240's should not cost more than 1k at this present time. if you look at toyota tercel, you can find those mechanically sound for under 1k. the reason why 240's have a variety of prices is because of the demand for purpose build, drift or whatever it is etc. a person who owns a 240, who is not into cars, will most likely sell his or her under 1k. in retrospect, there's really nothing special about 240 out from the factory. nissan designed the 240 as a sporty beater for people that can't afford the z.

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I paid 250$ for my 90 pig nose hatch with no rust 150k, all it needed was a fuel pump.
Then I paid 900 for my 93 chuki coupe no rust running and drove it home 150k

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nifares240 wrote:verts, on the other hand, are hit or miss. some people like them and some don't. me, personally, I don't like them. nissan should have made them as coupe or hatches.

240's should not cost more than 1k at this present time. if you look at toyota tercel, you can find those mechanically sound for under 1k. the reason why 240's have a variety of prices is because of the demand for purpose build, drift or whatever it is etc. a person who owns a 240, who is not into cars, will most likely sell his or her under 1k. in retrospect, there's really nothing special about 240 out from the factory. nissan designed the 240 as a sporty beater for people that can't afford the z.
They did make them as Coupes, until they were converted into Verts and became badass.

Prices change like crazy, a car is worth whatever a person is willing to pay. I've bought 3 S13s in my life... $14,000; $4,100; $4,500. But the most recent purchase was still 4 year ago.

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I purchased my garaged, all stock '91 hatch with 53k miles from the original owner for $3500. Honestly you shouldn't spend much more than that on a 20 year old car.

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prices on S13 have stayed just about the same for the last 8-10 years: steals can be had for under $1000, market price for stock running examples range from 1500 to 3000 depending on condition and mileage. The so called "drift tax" only applies to certain sellers, mostly those who read car forums and know they can find a sucker for their beat econo-car.

There are still a crap ton of s13's out there, dont expect them to get any more pricey until they are all around 25+ years old and they start rusting off the road in mass numbers.

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^this is true
for a stock mint 240 thatd be the most id pay
i got mine for 1000 but ive put over 3k into it with wheels, motor, and coils

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I bought a decent shell for $500 and a running Pignose Coupe that looks really clean for $1400.

Almost had a Coupe with front end damage for $600, but The motors was screwed and I needed it to run a few states away so I left it.

Ugly S14's go for $1500-2000

But I've seen a coupe 1989 hatches that were immaculate.

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see there are ad like this one out there:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/1815494945.html

3300, its 3 different colors and probably BTH.

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simmode1 wrote:See... I don't see $1000 as reasonable for a mechanically sound car in decent condition. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's value keeps dropping until it's worthless. IMO, there exists a point where a car stops depreciating and just holds a stable value depending on its operating efficency.

Yeah, most of the beatup-azz 240's you see on Craigslist? $1000? Sure. But one with reasonably decent interior/exterior/paint and no major mechanical defects? I say:
-$1200 to $1500 for piggy
-$1700 to $2300 for chuki and vert
-$3000 to $3500 for S14 zenki
-$3800 to $4200 for S14 kouki


Past that, you could afford a Z32 instead.
There are alot of people that would trade a z32 for a 240. They may have started out as a higher priced vehicle but anymore they are pretty similar. Also you will be hard pressed to find a clean kouki for 3800-4200. The fact that they are a very buildable car that is affordable to kids is what makes them increase in value. I hope they do keep drifting them into poles it just makes my car worth that much more. I have thought alot about selling my kouki and I have watched the market on them. The market is not going to go down any farther than what it is now. It is to the point where they have bottomed out and are now increasing rather than decreasing in value. Finding a stockish 240 is getting harder and harder to find that isn't a rust bucket.

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This is a local CL add for a 240 that had me lauging pretty hard.
http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/1811197842.html

37mpg!:)

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dirft tax....



....y0

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i paid 500 for mine chuki and all i had to do was tighten the alternator tensioner. Runs smooth. No rust, and one dent on the fender 139k. :D

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if your looking at this as an investment car for a possible race/drift build..then you need to figure on paying premiums for unmolested cars..or allready modifyed cars (clean builds)...imho..a clean rolling chasis should run an average of $1000. bucks...and thats no damage to the rails...if some damage but fixable..then anywhere from 500 to 800. bucks...if the car is a clean moded car..engine swapp ect...then expect to pay for an s13 roughly 4k to 6k...this should be a (not show quality) track use car...you have to keep in mind he investment in this type of car in suspention , chasis upgrades and engine modifications...as for a clean unmolested s13..3k is a good starting price...this would be a for a clean interior and clean engine (well maintaind) with records..as more and more kids jump into the drift world...they tend to pick s13's for there first drift cars..and most get total'd out or butcherd ..these cars are going to start to rise in value due to this fact as they become more rare...just my humble opinion.

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liquid cool is right any time something is value than you well pay more. know that drift is the fade an not drag race a honda kids and i use the kids because like someone said earlier ther're the fools who are make the cars more valuable. i have 2 89 240sx se stock i bought them before the drift crazy. i personally want to make them daily drive with a little kick and the fact that when i bought them only the true jdm fan had them or cared to have them i got them cheap. now because i have 1 child when i got them kept have kids (4 in total) i could never get around to doing s*** to them exect keep them a clean a possible. know that drift is the in thing there isn't a week that goes by with out some asking me if i want to sell my cars. it got to the point that i had to put them in the garage so i won't be bother by some fake wannbe drifter who think he's get a steal for 500 cus i problely don't what the car is capable of become. and that is a 300 wheel horse power moster ka ,sr,rb or any thing else that will fit in the engine bay. that can't just be pick up at the dealer by everybody with money. that fact is the car in america is more popular now than when it came out 20 years ago. basiclly a diamond in the rough.some of us who got our cars before the drift era in america lucky us. to the rest of you plan on pay more for our diamonds than we did thats what happens when you come to the party late.


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