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I feel there are just way to many 240's out there with BS mods, its hard to find a clean as you guys have said unmolested S chassis. I dont understand why people have these awkward looking cars with poor wheel fitment. This to me shows that the person has no respect for the car. Its very expensive to modify cars but my $00.02 is if your going to do it- do it right


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I got my s14 zenki for 500 bucks. had sportline springs and a kenwood stereo, but lacked an engine and transmission lol

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SChassis912
you are 100% right. i told myself when i got 2 s13 i would do it right the first time. it seems stupid to me to want a 600$ exhuast and settle on a cheap a** 200 or 300 doller one. i think thats the reason you see so may 240 out there look all frankenstien and s***. like i said early there are just to many kids who have heard about how cheap you could get a 240 but, they fail to realize all those story of a cheap good condition 240 are aleast like 4 or more years ago. it's because of these kids with no will to save the money that you see all mess up custumize 240 and the funny thing is after all the crapy work they do to there cars they think they can then sell them and act like that cheap no name muffler and crack aftermarket front bumper is a improvement to the car hens the price increase in the cars. my faveritt is the "it's not that i don't want the car it just that i don't have time for it any more" yet they spent 3000 dollers the last 2 years f*** it up so if you are unlike and up with one of these frankenstien 240 you will spend 4000 dollers undoing what these dumbass did. the choice as far as price is a 240 with cheap mods barely run (and you all know what i mean by cheap mods) no more than 1500$and that if you really want a 240 and cant find one. one run and no mods other than tinted windows 1600$ and up.and last no mods pretty much stock just not run will i say 1200$ and up. a car that looks like s*** because it has bad mods is the fault of the guy sell it . its a fail project and the person sell it is just trying to get reed of that headach. what else would call it. they spent the money to mod it and now they don't want it. some elses problem is what your buy when you get a mod car thats a fact.

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ghostowl79 wrote:SChassis912
you are 100% right. i told myself when i got 2 s13 i would do it right the first time. it seems stupid to me to want a 600$ exhuast and settle on a cheap a** 200 or 300 doller one. i think thats the reason you see so may 240 out there look all frankenstien and s***. like i said early there are just to many kids who have heard about how cheap you could get a 240 but, they fail to realize all those story of a cheap good condition 240 are aleast like 4 or more years ago. it's because of these kids with no will to save the money that you see all mess up custumize 240 and the funny thing is after all the crapy work they do to there cars they think they can then sell them and act like that cheap no name muffler and crack aftermarket front bumper is a improvement to the car hens the price increase in the cars. my faveritt is the "it's not that i don't want the car it just that i don't have time for it any more" yet they spent 3000 dollers the last 2 years f**king it up so if you are unlike and up with one of these frankenstien 240 you will spend 4000 dollers undoing what these dumbass did. the choice as far as price is a 240 with cheap mods barely run (and you all know what i mean by cheap mods) no more than 1500$and that if you really want a 240 and cant find one. one run and no mods other than tinted windows 1600$ and up.and last no mods pretty much stock just not run will i say 1200$ and up. a car that looks like s*** because it has bad mods is the fault of the guy sell it . its a fail project and the person sell it is just trying to get reed of that headach. what else would call it. they spent the money to mod it and now they don't want it. some elses problem is what your buy when you get a mod car thats a fact.
Your post gave me a headache trying to understand and read it. :poke:

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i got mine (1992 hatch) 162k on it for 800 bucks and it was manual.

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TheRb240 wrote:I got my s14 zenki for 500 bucks. had sportline springs and a kenwood stereo, but lacked an engine and transmission lol
Personally I wouldn't mind that as Id probably just drop and LSx motor into it in that case.

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sorry for the ramble fiznowler
im just say there are some genuine jems of 240 out there and some frankenstien POS cars. the people with the POS are trying to be slick and ripe people off.

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ahh... Thanks for the cliffs that is alot easier lol.

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there are allot of frankenbuilds out there...but that does not make them an automatic candidate for the scrap heap...in reallity..all your really looking for in a frankenbuild buy...is chasis condition...everything else is fixable..ya there are some headaches...but thats why there cheeper than a clean 240....as for the post with "i see to many 240s!"..where?..couse in vegas...a decent one is really rare now...most have been converted to track rides and are really hammerd on....as for the "gay aftermarket bumper comment"...think of the after market bumper that the frankenbuilder put on as a free step in your wieght reduction....oem bumpers and supports are really heavy..and the difference in driveablity is noticable instantly when you go aftermarket...just a few more rambles..take it as you wish :P

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Like today driving in LA I saw a s13 coupe with a nice (prob expensive) exhaust system on it, but OH MY!! it was seven different colors! How does this even happen who is doing this!?!?!?! :cry:

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ouch i feel like i've over paid for my 1990 piggy. i paid 3k for it but it came in outstanding condition.

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SChassis912 wrote:it was seven different colors! How does this even happen who is doing this!?!?!?! :cry:
95% of 240 owners.

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It is the style essay!

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well....if they did a multicolor coating..then there saying how gay they are..california..go figure..lol...some pipes do color out due to heat thou..mine did...specially on my cheep ebay headers.

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ghostowl79 wrote:SChassis912
you are 100% right. i told myself when i got 2 s13 i would do it right the first time. it seems stupid to me to want a 600$ exhuast and settle on a cheap a** 200 or 300 doller one. i think thats the reason you see so may 240 out there look all frankenstien and s***. like i said early there are just to many kids who have heard about how cheap you could get a 240 but, they fail to realize all those story of a cheap good condition 240 are aleast like 4 or more years ago. it's because of these kids with no will to save the money that you see all mess up custumize 240 and the funny thing is after all the crapy work they do to there cars they think they can then sell them and act like that cheap no name muffler and crack aftermarket front bumper is a improvement to the car hens the price increase in the cars. my faveritt is the "it's not that i don't want the car it just that i don't have time for it any more" yet they spent 3000 dollers the last 2 years f**king it up so if you are unlike and up with one of these frankenstien 240 you will spend 4000 dollers undoing what these dumbass did. the choice as far as price is a 240 with cheap mods barely run (and you all know what i mean by cheap mods) no more than 1500$and that if you really want a 240 and cant find one. one run and no mods other than tinted windows 1600$ and up.and last no mods pretty much stock just not run will i say 1200$ and up. a car that looks like s*** because it has bad mods is the fault of the guy sell it . its a fail project and the person sell it is just trying to get reed of that headach. what else would call it. they spent the money to mod it and now they don't want it. some elses problem is what your buy when you get a mod car thats a fact.
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You are correct SChassis912. When I had purchased an S13 chassis 240sx, I was determined to set it up in a logical and aesthetically pleasing manner. I do not agree with how one might look into purchasing an exhaust system that would cost 600 dollars, and after assessing their priorities (typically in a way that I would not approve) purchase an exhaust system that is significantly cheaper. I believe that would be the main reason many Nissan 240sx's are not well put together.

I shall re-iterate what I said earlier when I say that many adolescents may purchase a Nissan 240sx because of it's low initial price, but those same adolescents are unaware that purchasing a Nissan 240sx that is in such condition that I would be willing to drive it, at that low initial price, is not as common occurrence as it would have been multiple years ago. It is because of these adolescents' inability to manage funds and poor taste that we see cars that are improperly modified. What I find humorous is that even with the sub-par workmanship that has been displayed on their vehicles, they deem it right to mark them up in a way that I find unjustifiable. I do enjoy their excuses, but as a personal favourite I like to hear "It's not that I don't want the car, it's just that I don't have time for it any more." It is also often the case upon inspection of the car, I find modifications totaling several thousand dollars that the owner had applied to their Nissan 240sx over the period of ownership.

so if you are unlike and up with one of these frankenstien 240 (My apologies, I was unable to translate this part but will continue from where it left off)...one would likely spend thousands of dollars replacing the poorly chosen parts and equipment on the vehicle. A Nissan 240sx with inexpensive mods would cost 1500 dollars in a properly balanced consumer market. Said vehicle that is not modded but has windows that are tinted would cost 1600 dollars in the same market. Lastly, the same car, with all of the original equipment manufacturer's parts but is not in a condition that it would be a properly operating motor vehicle would cost 1200 dollars.

A car that is not aesthetically pleasing due to the parts that were installed would be considered a problem of the current owner. I would consider it a project that has failed, and one that the owner wishes not to pursue any further. As far as I'm concerned it was not a proper investment. When you purchase a used car that has been modded, you are also purchasing any negative ramifications that may come along with such modifications. That is what I would consider the be a fairly consistent pattern.
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ghostowl79 wrote:SChassis912
you are 100% right. i told myself when i got 2 s13 i would do it right the first time. it seems stupid to me to want a 600$ exhuast and settle on a cheap a** 200 or 300 doller one. i think thats the reason you see so may 240 out there look all frankenstien and s***. like i said early there are just to many kids who have heard about how cheap you could get a 240 but, they fail to realize all those story of a cheap good condition 240 are aleast like 4 or more years ago. it's because of these kids with no will to save the money that you see all mess up custumize 240 and the funny thing is after all the crapy work they do to there cars they think they can then sell them and act like that cheap no name muffler and crack aftermarket front bumper is a improvement to the car hens the price increase in the cars. my faveritt is the "it's not that i don't want the car it just that i don't have time for it any more" yet they spent 3000 dollers the last 2 years f**king it up so if you are unlike and up with one of these frankenstien 240 you will spend 4000 dollers undoing what these dumbass did. the choice as far as price is a 240 with cheap mods barely run (and you all know what i mean by cheap mods) no more than 1500$and that if you really want a 240 and cant find one. one run and no mods other than tinted windows 1600$ and up.and last no mods pretty much stock just not run will i say 1200$ and up. a car that looks like s*** because it has bad mods is the fault of the guy sell it . its a fail project and the person sell it is just trying to get reed of that headach. what else would call it. they spent the money to mod it and now they don't want it. some elses problem is what your buy when you get a mod car thats a fact.
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You are correct SChassis912. When I had purchased an S13 chassis 240sx, I was determined to set it up in a logical and aesthetically pleasing manner. I do not agree with how one might look into purchasing an exhaust system that would cost 600 dollars, and after assessing their priorities (typically in a way that I would not approve) purchase an exhaust system that is significantly cheaper. I believe that would be the main reason many Nissan 240sx's are not well put together.

I shall re-iterate what I said earlier when I say that many adolescents may purchase a Nissan 240sx because of it's low initial price, but those same adolescents are unaware that purchasing a Nissan 240sx that is in such condition that I would be willing to drive it, at that low initial price, is not as common occurrence as it would have been multiple years ago. It is because of these adolescents' inability to manage funds and poor taste that we see cars that are improperly modified. What I find humorous is that even with the sub-par workmanship that has been displayed on their vehicles, they deem it right to mark them up in a way that I find unjustifiable. I do enjoy their excuses, but as a personal favourite I like to hear "It's not that I don't want the car, it's just that I don't have time for it any more." It is also often the case upon inspection of the car, I find modifications totaling several thousand dollars that the owner had applied to their Nissan 240sx over the period of ownership.

so if you are unlike and up with one of these frankenstien 240 (My apologies, I was unable to translate this part but will continue from where it left off)...one would likely spend thousands of dollars replacing the poorly chosen parts and equipment on the vehicle. A Nissan 240sx with inexpensive mods would cost 1500 dollars in a properly balanced consumer market. Said vehicle that is not modded but has windows that are tinted would cost 1600 dollars in the same market. Lastly, the same car, with all of the original equipment manufacturer's parts but is not in a condition that it would be a properly operating motor vehicle would cost 1200 dollars.

A car that is not aesthetically pleasing due to the parts that were installed would be considered a problem of the current owner. I would consider it a project that has failed, and one that the owner wishes not to pursue any further. As far as I'm concerned it was not a proper investment. When you purchase a used car that has been modded, you are also purchasing any negative ramifications that may come along with such modifications. That is what I would consider the be a fairly consistent pattern.
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humm..to above said post .....lets put the coin in perspective...if you are a real racer..you have to plan a build on a budget where possible...us drift guys..tend to buy the cheep stuff due to it allways getting tossed from the car...like an ebay exauhst system...they last for a few track events and thats all there intended for..imagine if you tossed that nice $600. buck catback from greddy...you would cry your eye's out..but the chepo ebay crap..if your like me..you would bang the bends close and slap it back on and continue to slide knowing you can allways get another one for 120. shipped...planning a biuld does not nessesarly mean your going to use all name brand parts out there and throu gobs of cash at sumpthing..planning means your going to put your cash where it will do the most good..as for the many multi color cars out there...you can bet the guy behind the wheel is probly beyond your skill level in driving..and possibly mechanix allso..as hes a veteran junk yard diver and knows where to find those multicolor parts to fix his ride himself...most good drifters have learned this as they push there cars to new extreems , past what most regular driveing levels for drifters ..(gaining speed)..this is just a natual phase of there driving evolution ....

What looks good to you..may not look good to a real driver....

what i mean by this is a few basic facts...when a real driver looks for a possible project car..there are a few things we start out with that matter the most to us..

Frame condition, if its all chopped up..we tend to walk.fenders and minor body stuff are no big deal..rust is thou..avoid cancer at any cost unless you can fab properly and are willing to invest some time..paint for a real driver..dosent mean s***..how many sweet lookin rides ya see out there with rims and paint and a f'n fart can that are sackless and with newb drivers..look for the real deal...not a candy coated lump of ricer s***..

Engine condition, this is one of the most important,we look for mods and how the old owner maintaind it..good sighn its crap is if its coverd in grease or oil...depending on the price and or if ya have a swapp waiting on a stand..you may want to walk....you allso have to check the cockpit..and look for guages..water temp , oil press , afr...ect..if there are no aftermarket guages..then the owner really dint care about the engine enough to monitor it properly.

suspention, most dont pay any attention to this..but a good driver would look at all the vital spots on the suspention...where the lca's connect to the engine crossmember..if the crossmember shows sighns it was bent up..its a good possibility its been in a major accident...bushings are another..and fo course..ball joints..thats the basics..then a real driver would look for mods..caster , camber , rucas gear and or coilovers..what brands..ect..and if the swaybars are aftermarket...

Electrical...this is a big deal...the guys who really wrench on this forum know the nightmare that is electrical issue's..this is the most common issue frankenbuilds have from novice mechanix and newbs...i walk 100% when i see a good amount of electrical splices and bs in the cockpit or under the hood..this is a buyer bewary descission only you can make..be smart on this one.

these are the most important in my book..the car may not look great on the outside...but if the mods are there and the engine , suspention, and condition are...then you have just found gold!..pat your self on the back..grab a beer and enjoy your new found gem. :cool:

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SChassis912 wrote:Like today driving in LA I saw a s13 coupe with a nice (prob expensive) exhaust system on it, but OH MY!! it was seven different colors! How does this even happen who is doing this!?!?!?! :cry:
People like me that dump cash into the engine first, then suspension, and then body.

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I got a s14 '95 se for $2700! it was clean for the most part, except the slob broad used the car for her restaraunt and the seal around the moonroof was completely gone and it was a nasty a/t. other than that runs strong and blows ice cold :cool: , lmao! oh 168k on the clock!

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obg3506 wrote:I got a s14 '95 se for $2700! it was clean for the most part, except the slob broad used the car for her restaraunt and the seal around the moonroof was completely gone and it was a nasty a/t. other than that runs strong and blows ice cold :cool: , lmao! oh 168k on the clock!

For a zenki sounds like a 1500 car

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I just sold my other s13 for $2500.. Function and Form type 2 coils, isis rucas, Nardi, Fidanza short throw. 155,xxx miles with a fresh clutch and oil change... Very clean with no cracks on the dash... $2500 for a stock ka car is very fair imo.. Here's a picture to show how clean it actually was..

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^^ STEAL!
There is no 'average' for a 240sx. Way to many things to consider when buying a car. It really depends on the buyer.

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Bought my 96 Zenki for $2000. 5 speed, 110,000 miles on it. Perfect interior, great stereo and speakers. Found it just sitting there behind a dude's house, he didn't drive it anymore. Cash works wonders.........

Pics: After the first wash when I bought it.......
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And how she looks now, still a work in progress.........
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After exhaust install: OBX header, HKS Hi Power...........
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^^^^is this a build thread?? jk :rotfl

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haha supposed to be more of a representation of what less than 3 grand can get you I suppose.........

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just thought i would add, i just bought a '95 s14 that needs a timing chain for $650 :) :) :)

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my first 240 was a 93 hatchback with a blown engine and automatic and i got it for $80 dollars, yes i said $80 dollars, the lady who owned it left it parked in front of her job for like six months and she just wanted the thing gone, unfortunately i wrecked it when i lost control in the rain last month, now i bought a 93 convertible for $1500 as a running car but it needed a lot of work....

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fiznowler wrote:
simmode1 wrote:See... I don't see $1000 as reasonable for a mechanically sound car in decent condition. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's value keeps dropping until it's worthless. IMO, there exists a point where a car stops depreciating and just holds a stable value depending on its operating efficency.

Yeah, most of the beatup-azz 240's you see on Craigslist? $1000? Sure. But one with reasonably decent interior/exterior/paint and no major mechanical defects? I say:
-$1200 to $1500 for piggy
-$1700 to $2300 for chuki and vert
-$3000 to $3500 for S14 zenki
-$3800 to $4200 for S14 kouki


Past that, you could afford a Z32 instead.
There are alot of people that would trade a z32 for a 240. They may have started out as a higher priced vehicle but anymore they are pretty similar. Also you will be hard pressed to find a clean kouki for 3800-4200. The fact that they are a very buildable car that is affordable to kids is what makes them increase in value. I hope they do keep drifting them into poles it just makes my car worth that much more. I have thought alot about selling my kouki and I have watched the market on them. The market is not going to go down any farther than what it is now. It is to the point where they have bottomed out and are now increasing rather than decreasing in value. Finding a stockish 240 is getting harder and harder to find that isn't a rust bucket.

I agree ^^

That's why I'm going to be an s13 and beat on that and use my Kouki as my daily sex machine/daily driver :-)


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