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I'm tired of my hatch, because its a hatch. haha

I want a vert and I will be picking on up this weekend for pretty much free, but the frame and floors are shot, so sense I can weld and cut s*** (who can't?) i'm thinking about something.

What if I cut the q panels and top trunk area off and taillights, and cut my roof and q panels off, and weld it to mine.

now i don't mean the whole q panel, i mean like go half way down it and cut right across, if you know what i mean. lol I'll post pictures and stuff as I plan on doing this within a month or so.

So has anyone done this before? Before anyone asks my cars going out for a full roll cage after this is done, so don't worry about the body flex.


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Those lines are what i'm thinking....


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why not just leave it and get that cage. becasue its a little more cutting off then i expected

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how so? From what i can see as long as i cut what i have outlined it should work?

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your outline shows that you want to cut near the well of the car and where the sring seat would be. if it was where the line design on the car and not the light removal it would be fine.

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S13k wrote:your outline shows that you want to cut near the well of the car and where the sring seat would be. if it was where the line design on the car and not the light removal it would be fine.
Can you explain that a bit for me, the light removal?

And I plan on going above the wells, i want to cut as little as possible pretty much.

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i meant the taillight section to not cut that off and keep it the hatch lights and try to cut & weld everything else you said

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Yeah, I honestly could probably modify the trunk to work with the tails huh?

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Future_gohan wrote:Yeah, I honestly could probably modify the trunk to work with the tails huh?
yes bondo is your friend

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there is a vert hatch running around, ive seen him twice but both times i wasnt in my 240 and was towing cars so i couldnt stop and talk to him.

and NO bondo is NOT your friend. my friend has a 240 hatch with s15 front, widebody, and skyline tails and the jackass who did the conversion used bondo. he cant paint his car because everything is always cracking.

if you want a vert, get a vert. dont go cutting up another poor 240 because most likely it would turn out to be a failed project and a ruined 240. just try to save the vert your getting or find another. they are out there, hell i just picked up a whole one basically for free that just needs a transmission.

and btw, hatches dominate! lol. i wouldnt trade mine for the world. but then again i love my vert i just got too. but id sell the vert before my hatch. sentimental reasons i suppose, was my first 240.
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I wouldn't use bondo on the trunk lid, but i will probably do that. It should be to hard. and whoever did his bondo work sucked. It shouldn't crack if you only used a little.

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Get that vert. And sell me parts from it. Then go get a real vert...

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s13beast wrote:Get that vert. And sell me parts from it. Then go get a real vert...
Yeah or not.

And if you want something off it email me [email protected]

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You want a vert... so you are going to do a hatch to vert conversion? That seems pretty f***ing dumb.

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240sx_ch08 wrote:You want a vert... so you are going to do a hatch to vert conversion? That seems pretty f***ing dumb.
Lol you sound pretty dumb yourself.

And yes, that is what i'm doing. Thanks for asking.

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fu***ng do it!

you know very well it will be a pain in the arse, if you still want to make it happen then make it happen.

if you are into picking up skills you may never need again....I say convert it into a truck. convertibles are ghay anyway. convertibles from the 90s are even ghayer.

whatever you decide, GL. i will not feel bad for what you do to your 240. it's better than wrecking it i suppose

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haha, to each their one they say. I like the verts slammed with a sil front. I already got the sil front and I'm doing it, I'm just now thinking how i'm doing the tailights. I think i'm going to keep the stock tails, maybe 180sx tails down the road. hmmm.

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Pretty much right there on both sides, right above the body line i think would be great, Its not even that much cutting, I just wanna make sure all my lines are straight and such when i do it.

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Please don't do this. No need to possibly ruin a hatch. Just get the vert and fix it!But thats just me man, like you said to each there own.

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idahos13 wrote:Please don't do this. No need to possibly ruin a hatch. Just get the vert and fix it!But thats just me man, like you said to each there own.
Lol I won't ruin anything, i'll cut everything the first time correctly where if something would happen id just have to weld the roof back on.

But I don't think i'll have a problem. The body lines are the same from what I can tell. thats the only think i'm worried about are the body lines.

The vert is pretty much unfixable. I'd have to pretty much put a whole new floor and both sides of the frame in. Not worth doing when cutting this would be 100 times easier. Still hard..but easier then a whole floor.

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least its semi original...

go for it

if it looks like poo at least its just a 240 you cut up

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Yeah, and either way it'll be a convertible? haha No i'm pretty confident in my team of mad scientists. so I'm not worried.

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Dude, just buy a vert that is in decent shape. Think about it this way: if you get this crappy vert that is virtually free, then graft it onto your hatch, then you are still only left with one good car. So if a vert is what you really want, then sell the hatch and use that money towards the vert. The extra amount of money that it would cost you to sell the hatch and buy a decent vert will PALE in comparison to the amount of work that will go into grafting the vert onto the hatch. And actually, I guarantee you it would cost you more to do it the way you want to do it.

Have you really thought about how much work it's going to be? Have you ever attempted anything close to this level? The cutting and welding of the outer panels is the least of your concerns. You then have all of the inner skin metal, the actual convertible top, finishing off the interior etc. Then you are going to have to paint the whole damn thing..... just buy a nice vert and be done with it.

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after reading this, all my good instincts says this is a f***ing stupid idea...but at the same time do it, id like to see if you can pull this off. do it right and dont cut any corners, people chop cars all the time its nothing new, just not very common with these s13's. the biggest problem you are going to have besides cutting up everything is getting the verts frame properly braced, its heavier for a reason.

best plan, sell your hatch and find a clean vert. its the only way imo to use your money and time wisely. whatever you do man gl, and if you go the chop job, please post 100000 pics, could be epic.

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Okay, first off, there isn't any interior in my car, its completely stripped. Second, I'm not using a top I might put one on but as of right now i'm not. To cut the part where i'm going to be cutting isn't that much cutting, i've already looked in my car, and i've seen where i want to cut. I will cut as little as possible, but, I won't know exactly what I want to cut till i get my vert this sunday, I'll then spend the day starting to mark everything and MAYBE cutting the vert up.

And my car is going for paint in january to get painted r33 purple. ;]

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sebazztard wrote:after reading this, all my good instincts says this is a f***ing stupid idea...but at the same time do it, id like to see if you can pull this off. do it right and dont cut any corners, people chop cars all the time its nothing new, just not very common with these s13's. the biggest problem you are going to have besides cutting up everything is getting the verts frame properly braced, its heavier for a reason.

best plan, sell your hatch and find a clean vert. its the only way imo to use your money and time wisely. whatever you do man gl, and if you go the chop job, please post 100000 pics, could be epic.
I'm not going to be bracing the frame, at least I don't think i will be yet, I will be getting a roll cage put in, already got everything set up to have it put in.

I don't like cutting corners, I drift but I'll be making this as clean as possible.

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jeff420 wrote:there is a vert hatch running around, ive seen him twice but both times i wasnt in my 240 and was towing cars so i couldnt stop and talk to him.

and NO bondo is NOT your friend. my friend has a 240 hatch with s15 front, widebody, and skyline tails and the jackass who did the conversion used bondo. he cant paint his car because everything is always cracking.

if you want a vert, get a vert. dont go cutting up another poor 240 because most likely it would turn out to be a failed project and a ruined 240. just try to save the vert your getting or find another. they are out there, hell i just picked up a whole one basically for free that just needs a transmission.

and btw, hatches dominate! lol. i wouldnt trade mine for the world. but then again i love my vert i just got too. but id sell the vert before my hatch. sentimental reasons i suppose, was my first 240.

Modified by jeff420 at 5:44 PM 11/13/2009
I concur.

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Maybe i'll have less cutting then i thought...hmm

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idk if youve ever actually gone as far in depth as you think you have as far as the structures of these cars.

coupe/vert floorpans are totally different from hatch rear areas. the whole underside is different.

just cut the top off the hatch. call it a day. game over.

just drift a rustbucket vert.

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mrgreeneyes wrote:idk if youve ever actually gone as far in depth as you think you have as far as the structures of these cars.

coupe/vert floorpans are totally different from hatch rear areas. the whole underside is different.

just cut the top off the hatch. call it a day. game over.

just drift a rustbucket vert.
I won't be touching the floors on either car. I'll be putting a cage on my car with the roof cut off. I'll either modify the vert trunk to work with the hatch or i'll make something with the hatch. for now I want to get the roof cut off etc.

And I did know the floors were different, do you know where the braces and stuff are underneath? Maybe i could make something similar for this..


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