Ok - who pulled their coal canister out?

[66mgb]

I know this thing has activated charcoal on the inside, but after 14 years I'm sure it's toast. Has anyone changed their coal can or just removed it?

edit - Do I need a hazmat team to dispose of this?

[ceningolmo]

I was trying to get to my oil filter the other day and was experiencing my usual level of annoyance. While fishing around with my hand I noticed that one of the hoses in close proximity was not attached to anything. So, I grabbed a flashlight and looked...the large hose that leads up from the exhaust to the bottom side of the can was not attached. And, it hasn't been attached for a long time I would guess.

so, I think I can assume that it isn't really doing anything important (other than making the tree huggers feel better about my V8). So, I inquired about removal with Wes. Wes said he didn't think it mattered one way or the other...so, I am pending removal. I want that thing out of there so I can to my oil filter a little easier.

If you remove yours, let me know how it goes and what exactly you remove.

[Jesda]

I'd like to run the hose to the trunk, where I'd have a bunch of endangered animals.

[66mgb]

I'd like to run the hose to the trunk, where I'd have a bunch of endangered animals.

LOL!

Yea - i wanted to remove the can so I could get to the oil filter a little easier. I just didn't want it to void my warranty!

[squeefoo]

The evap cannister acts as an artificial accelerator pump.It purges fumes through the TB under acceleration and makes up for fuel starvation when the ECU is calculating new parameters per input.The hose on the bottom is for "overflow" and goes into the frame rail.

Sure go ahead ...rip it out.It'll be so much faster!

[66mgb]

The evap cannister acts as an artificial accelerator pump.It purges fumes through the TB under acceleration and makes up for fuel starvation when the ECU is calculating new parameters per input.The hose on the bottom is for "overflow" and goes into the frame rail.

Sure go ahead ...rip it out.It'll be so much faster!

I didn't want to remove it to go faster - I was curious if a 14 year old canister that was full of saturated charcoal was still useful. I'm not trying to go up like a molotov cocktail.

[squeefoo]

I was curious if a 14 year old canister that was full of saturated charcoal was still useful.

YES:

The evap cannister acts as an artificial accelerator pump.It purges fumes through the TB under acceleration and makes up for fuel starvation when the ECU is calculating new parameters per input.

[66mgb]

YES:

ALRIGHTY THEN!

[Q45tech]

Owners and incompetent repair persons [masquerading as techs or web site experts] and those that suggest some modifications are the number one cause of Q ending up in a crushers.

Every little bit of redesign or deletion adds to the cars demise.

Especially changing oil filter from the top! That ranks right up there with child abuse.

"For light-duty vehicles, and for light light-duty trucks not subject to the Tier 0 standards of Sec. 86.094-9(a), intermediate useful life and/or full useful life. Intermediate useful life is a period of use of 5 years or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Full useful life is a period of use of 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first, except as otherwise noted in Sec. 86.094-9. The useful life of evaporative and/or refueling emission control systems on the portion of these vehicles subject to the evaporative emission test requirements of Sec. 86.130-96, and/or the refueling emission test requirements of Sec. 86.151-98, is defined as a period of use of 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first."

If you take the system off and are ever tested for fuel cap or tank sealing/pressure..............the vehicle will fail emiision and of course the visual test portion depends on what your state does.

Selling an emission tampered vehicle is fraud...............doesn't mean it has to work just that it is maintained sold as built physically.

[Jesda]

Owners and incompetent repair persons [masquerading as techs or web site experts] and those that suggest some modifications are the number one cause of Q ending up in a crushers.

I thought it was crap chain guides and weaksauce transmissions that fail at 50-80k?

[ceningolmo]

I'd think the G50 Q itself should qualify as an endangered animal. Maybe you should run for office again and use a "Save the Q's" campaign as one of the planks in your platform.

[ceningolmo]

I don't even know how I could change the oil filter from the top. I was changing it from underneath and was bumping in to my usual trouble stuffing my fat arm in to a skinny space. Thats when I figured out that my evaporator was no longer connected.

If I could eliminate some needless hoses, I would. If they aren't needless... well, then I won't eliminate them. However, if their value comes down to saving ozone layer... their value is significantly less to me than if it will save me gas mileage.
Modified by ceningolmo at 4:43 PM 6/28/2006

[66mgb]

Owners and incompetent repair persons [masquerading as techs or web site experts] and those that suggest some modifications are the number one cause of Q ending up in a crushers.

Every little bit of redesign or deletion adds to the cars demise.

Especially changing oil filter from the top! That ranks right up there with child abuse.

"For light-duty vehicles, and for light light-duty trucks not subject to the Tier 0 standards of Sec. 86.094-9(a), intermediate useful life and/or full useful life. Intermediate useful life is a period of use of 5 years or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Full useful life is a period of use of 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first, except as otherwise noted in Sec. 86.094-9. The useful life of evaporative and/or refueling emission control systems on the portion of these vehicles subject to the evaporative emission test requirements of Sec. 86.130-96, and/or the refueling emission test requirements of Sec. 86.151-98, is defined as a period of use of 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first."

If you take the system off and are ever tested for fuel cap or tank sealing/pressure..............the vehicle will fail emiision and of course the visual test portion depends on what your state does.

Selling an emission tampered vehicle is fraud...............doesn't mean it has to work just that it is maintained sold as built physically.

Ok - I guess I'll keep the can - maybe I'll order two from Joe and run them in series!

[superuber]

Owners and incompetent repair persons [masquerading as techs or web site experts] and those that suggest some modifications are the number one cause of Q ending up in a crushers.

Every little bit of redesign or deletion adds to the cars demise.

Especially changing oil filter from the top! That ranks right up there with child abuse!

Yea, those race guys don't know nothin'.I'm no tech, I'm really an actor!( I just act like a tech)pardon me, gotta go spank the kids.............

[irax]

ironicly thats where my oilfilter is too... on my 240sx

[Aussie Q45a]

"Especially changing oil filter from the top! That ranks right up there with child abuse."

Hell Tech, I hang on your every word, but please tell me how to change the filter from underneath on an "A" please.

Cheers Greg


Modified by Aussie Q45a at 10:15 PM 6/29/2006

[Fred D.]

You state, every little bit of redesign or deletion adds to the cars demise.I must disagree, example each Infiniti vehicle can be redesigned without being a technician or ASE certified Infiniti mechanic. First you should research what you wish to change or redesign and consult with a expert tech. that is still active with the Infiniti company. If they say it will cause premature failure, then you should not do that particular modifacation, but thier are many redesigns that can benifit your G50's handeling acceleration ect. Example of a good redesign improvment is, to your trasmission for better acceleration in the OEM design, a gentle acceleration with a gas conservation first gear, granted this is not true for all years of the G50. Changing a trasmission or haveing it rebuilt is expensive, but were not talking about cost. The computer also can be improved by remapping and you will see a higher redline better acceleration better fuel economy, this modifacations is easy and not too pricey. Well Im stating this because you should not fear what you dont know (redesign), just seek the right information that will lead you down the right path of G50 performance.I do have to say most all of the G50 OEM designs/parts are superior to aftermarket parts/designs, for the most long life if maintained properly.Who was that guy who used K&N filters for a long time, intell he figured out that the oil from the filter was screwing up his MAF and causing other problems.
Modified by Fred D. at 2:40 AM 6/29/2006

[Raxephon]

A common side effect to carbon canister removal is that the tank will almost always be under pressure. ie,..- When you remove the gas cap you will always get a "sshhh" noise and a rush of fuel vapor venting from around the gas cap.

I have yet to see any negative side effects to removing a non-functioning carbon canister.

[redmanfx]

I'd think the G50 Q itself should qualify as an endangered animal. Maybe you should run for office again and use a "Save the Q's" campaign as one of the planks in your platform.

Watch it! I don't wanna have to sue anyone for stealing my slogan.. I've got weapons, ammo, soldiers and a very limited bank account so I'm dangerous!

[qship96]

need to add a "spelchek" button to nico.

[MinisterofDOOM]

need to add a "spelchek" button to nico.

You mean like this one which is found along the top of the reply field?

[Peter Therock]

Owners and incompetent repair persons [masquerading as techs or web site experts] and those that suggest some modifications are the number one cause of Q ending up in a crushers.

Every little bit of redesign or deletion adds to the cars demise.

Especially changing oil filter from the top! That ranks right up there with child abuse.

Selling an emission tampered vehicle is fraud...............doesn't mean it has to work just that it is maintained sold as built physically.

I would like to know one thing?? If it is a crime to modify your car in any way. Why would you be posting things on a site about modifying cars. You have alot of fancy numbers and things but i have found very little of it usefull.Or for that fact understandable. I have been modifying cars for years and they always sell for more then I buy them for.So if you dont like it. You should not be putting others down that can!!!!!!! So lets get back to modifying. I must be incompetent then in your eyes I think that superuber has the nicest car on this site and I would be thrilled to have a car that nice!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jesda]

I have been modifying cars for years and they always sell for more then I buy them for.

Weird, it shouldnt.

Anyway, I dont believe Dennis is putting anyone down. Its about science. Bring the data so we can learn and compare.

[Peter Therock]

Weird, it shouldnt.

Anyway, I dont believe Dennis is putting anyone down. Its about science. Bring the data so we can learn and compare.

So if I buy a car for 5,000 and sell for 10,000 thats not an increase?

By the tone of his posts its obvious he is! He doesn't like mods. A lot of us do. He knows these guys have moved their filters, and it works great!As far as his numbers, we don't care. Most of these guys are wrenching in the back yard. Not your master techs! As far as science, do YOU understand all these numbers! If so you are smarter than me! Signed, The stupid tech

[96Qowner]

As far as his numbers, we don't care. Most of these guys are wrenching in the back yard. Not your master techs! As far as science, do YOU understand all these numbers! If so you are smarter than me! Signed, The stupid tech

That explains it. Sometimes it's GOOD to know if you're improving things or just messin' around. Besides, I never noticed this site was for mods. I use it to learn how to keep my Q in great condition, to diagnose any problems, and to know the correct way to fix them.

[yodawill2000]

I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding.I read a post awhile back from Dennis and he said removing from the bottom lets you inspect all the other parts down there , check for leaks etc.

just my 2 centavo's

[superuber]

That explains it. Sometimes it's GOOD to know if you're improving things or just messin' around. Besides, I never noticed this site was for mods. I use it to learn how to keep my Q in great condition, to diagnose any problems, and to know the correct way to fix them.

So your gonna believe some guy on the internet to fix your car?He could be a lube tech for all you know! Bolt it on and see for YOURSELF if it works.As far as a mod sight, where have you been! I post about a 4:08and I have nico drulling!

Misunderstanding? I don't think so! If you only look under your car when you change the oil, shame on you!P.S. thanks Peter, I gotta agree!!!!!

http://community.webshots.com/user/neheadsuperuber

[Jesda]

I would like to know one thing?? If it is a crime to modify your car in any way.

I dont really care for the law, but yes, in some states, counties, and municipalities, laws govern how much you can do to your own car.

Nothing wrong with mods. If youre going to make claims, however, about their effectiveness, you need to show us proof to back them up so that we can believe you.

[66mgb]

Looks like I stirred up the hornet's nest! LOL

[96Qowner]

Heheh, are you a lube tech, superuber? I've met Dennis. Have you had your Q45 for over 300,000 miles? Dennis has. Do you know all the numbers and theory? Dennis has. Have you been posting valuable information to Q45 forums for 7 years or more? Dennis has. Have you read the FSM cover to cover? Dennis has.

I'm just sayin' ...

It's not just one guy reading this thread, and for the sake of the others, it's important to stick with facts. Other than that, if someone finds an unidentified part on the engine and wants to take it off and see what happens, good for them - they should go right ahead.