Oil Pump Replacing/Install?

[GTR PrYdE]

*Where can I find a guide to replacing my KADE's oil pump?? Can it be done without pulling the engine?*

I still have to check a couple of things, but I believe my oil pump died.

It ran fine this weekend, then I cranked it today and no oil pressure for 30 seconds before I realized it and shut it down. No noises so hopefully it didn't damage anything.

I pulled the oil filter, very little oil in it,

I need to crank it with the oil cap off to see if the cams are getting oil.

Is there any other way of checking the pump's condition? Maybe take the filer out and crank it to see if oil shoots out??

My readings came from the stock sensor and an autometer gauge so...


Modified by GTR PrYdE at 7:47 PM 10/28/2008

[tramp_drift240]

eep, thats no good. if youre running a KA, your oil pump is in the lower front cover.

meaning youll have to take the random stuff out of the front of the engine bay (if youre leaving the motor in when youre gonna change pumps), crank pulley, valve cover, upper timing cover, oil pan, and lower timing cover (with the pump in it). its a complete PITA, i replaced mine while i was rebuilding before the DE swap into my pignose so i wouldnt have to do it again.

it sucks. but GL.

[GTR PrYdE]

Thanks,

If I need to pull the engine I will, it's just that I pulled it earlier this year and man was it a pain...

If it's just the same to leave the engine in the car, i'd rather do that...

[austins240]

to remove the oil pan you will have to remove the cross member or pull the motor out. you have to take the oil pan and oil pickup off to remove the front cover.

the oil pump itself is driven off of the crank, directly behind the crank pulley on the lower front cover.

[tramp_drift240]

LOL, shut up.

you dont have to remove the cross member OR pull the motor out to get the oil pan off. you just need to disconnect the engine mounts so you can jack the motor up enough to clear the crossmember.

though believe it or not, it might be easier to just pull it out and fix it. instead of working between the radiator support and the motor, the hassle of getting the oil pan out, etc.

[slyedog240sx]

LOL, shut up.

you dont have to remove the cross member OR pull the motor out to get the oil pan off. you just need to disconnect the engine mounts so you can jack the motor up enough to clear the crossmember.

though believe it or not, it might be easier to just pull it out and fix it. instead of working between the radiator support and the motor, the hassle of getting the oil pan out, etc.

it depends if you like to follow torque specs and do the pan bolts correctly or just do it however you can. No the crossmember or motor doesn't need pulled but it is a lot easier to pull the motor since the ka is a breeze to pull in and out. I can say even my little inch pound torque wrench is impossible to get to a few of the pan bolts. Btw get a op gasket when you do it, much more reliable seal imo than just rtv victor pn os32110.

[tramp_drift240]

do people actually seal their oil pans with ONLY rtv sealant?

and no, i dont really care about torque specs when theyre stationary items. the only time i really use torque specs is when im in the internals of the motor. external parts, all gravy. oil pan and valve cover alike, theyre basically a snug-it-up job.

its easy to take the motor out, sure, but you need somewhere to do it, the right weather if youre outside, a cherry picker if you dont have one, transportation of said unowned cherry picker.

its easier overall to just pull the motor out, but you can do the same job with the motor in the engine bay, without dropping any crossmembers or anything.

[GTR PrYdE]

Looks like i'll be pulling the engine again I don't want to but I have the room and tools to do so...

And if's it's easier overall and takes the same amount of time whatever...I just can't believe the pump just randomly failed..

[n240sxfnatic]

do people actually seal their oil pans with ONLY rtv sealant?.

Thats all your supposed to use

[ilovesideways]

Thats all your supposed to use

No it's not, it's bad to use. Always go with a gasket, don't go cheap. I have seen too many engines where they tried to use rtv and they either smeared it while putting it up there causing a leak, putting it on too thin or they tighten too much pushing it all out. Go with a gasket.

[tramp_drift240]

Thats all your supposed to use

LOL, why do they make a gasket for it?

do you use RTV for your valve cover as well?

[safin]

yeah screw torque specs on that stuff, hey does anyone know a businness that rents cherry pickers?

[ddgsxr504]

Actually according to the FSM all it calls for is RTV for the oil pan, I got a tube of it from the dealer, its SPECIAL... lol

[slyedog240sx]

you can use rtv if you choose. I chose a gasket and haven't had a drop of oil leak in 6 months. As far as anyone who won't torque any tin or other covers that mates a gasket, you are inexperienced and need to stfu cause you aren't professional and are plain ignorant.

[n240sxfnatic]

No it's not, it's bad to use. Always go with a gasket, don't go cheap. I have seen too many engines where they tried to use rtv and they either smeared it while putting it up there causing a leak, putting it on too thin or they tighten too much pushing it all out. Go with a gasket.

Oh man im sry my bad... O wait your retarded. Liquid gasket is just that A GASKET, and tightening it down till it oozes out is fine. Think about it; The extra oozes out because it is so compressed and SEALED that all it can do is go out.

LOL, why do they make a gasket for it?

do you use RTV for your valve cover as well?

Yes i use rtv on the parts of the cover that require it per FSM.

[ilovesideways]

I just noticed you own an SR, no wonder...

[tramp_drift240]

As far as anyone who won't torque any tin or other covers that mates a gasket, you are inexperienced and need to stfu cause you aren't professional and are plain ignorant.

get over yourself

i know what im doin, so you just do your extra work for no reason when i can do the same job in less time and still, no worries.

[n240sxfnatic]

I just noticed you own an SR, no wonder...

Did you also notice that the fsm I posted was from a ka24de?

[ilovesideways]

Did you also notice that the fsm I posted was from a ka24de?

Yes I did...and I also noticed you own an SR

[slyedog240sx]

get over yourself

i know what im doin, so you just do your extra work for no reason when i can do the same job in less time and still, no worries.

sure thing buddy.You would do it if you knew what you were doing. get some years of experience under your belt, or you will learn the hard way installing helicoils all the time.Nuff said.

[n240sxfnatic]

so

Yes I did...and I also noticed you own an SR

so owning an sr is hilarious?

[tramp_drift240]

sure thing buddy.You would do it if you knew what you were doing. get some years of experience under your belt, or you will learn the hard way installing helicoils all the time.Nuff said.

Helicoils are only necessary when bolts are tightened too much.

the oil pan and valve cover, the two that i mentioned, are only torqued to what...8lbs? which is the equivalent of snug +1. you wont strip anything by doing that.

ive got a few years under my belt, champ. dont tell me how to do my car work, i havent had anything fail or leak from not using a torque wrench.

'nuff said.

[ilovesideways]

so so owning an sr is hilarious?

Yeah it is...it just proves to me that Retard and owning an SR go hand in Hand. SR=Stupid & Retarded Motor.

[n240sxfnatic]

Haha, you seriously have to be the dumbest person on this forum bar none.

[tramp_drift240]

Haha, you seriously have to be the dumbest person on this forum bar none.

ilovesideways, are you jealous of your stock motor or something?

[ilovesideways]

Haha, you seriously have to be the dumbest person on this forum bar none.

No that title belogs to NALA. The SR is inferior to the KADE in many ways and is inferior to loads of other motors as well. Why anyone would spend $2500.00 to swap and SR is beyond me. People who own SR's remind me of Honda guys...they are all about hey look at me! Look how high I can rev my motor! Even though I have no torque and a ****ty block.

[ilovesideways]

ilovesideways, are you jealous of your stock motor or something?

No...I didn't say my motor was better I just said SR's are ****. Personally I would take a KA24DET over an SR20 anyday....I'd take a KA24ET over one. Either one could have more horsepower and a buttload more torque for half the price of an SR

(My motor isn't stock either...)

[tramp_drift240]

No that title belogs to NALA. The SR is inferior to the KADE in many ways and is inferior to loads of other motors as well. Why anyone would spend $2500.00 to swap and SR is beyond me. People who own SR's remind me of Honda guys...they are all about hey look at me! Look how high I can rev my motor! Even though I have no torque and a ****ty block.

you should just stop now.

youre talking out of your a**, and trying to start another lame sr vs ka thread.

a bare stock sr will kill your 240, im sure.

hell, an sr20de NO TURBO will probably stomp your car.

stop being so opinionated just because you cant afford to do things to your car.

if i were a mod, id lock it up.

[ilovesideways]

you should just stop now.

youre talking out of your a**, and trying to start another lame sr vs ka thread.

a bare stock sr will kill your 240, im sure.

hell, an sr20de NO TURBO will probably stomp your car.

stop being so opinionated just because you cant afford to do things to your car.

if i were a mod, id lock it up.

Hahaha...I can't afford to do things to my car because I don't own an SR? I can think of ten different motors right off that I would rather do than an SR (and be able to afford them) Ka's are superior to SR's when built. Why don't you stop being so opinionated and **** off? I think you just earned the title of forums biggest retard...You want a dunst cap to go with that tramp?

BTW I already have a motor swap for my car.

[n240sxfnatic]

Hahaha...I can't afford to do things to my car because I don't own an SR? I can think of ten different motors right off that I would rather do than an SR. Ka's are superior to SR's when built. Why don't you stop being so opinionated and **** off? I think you just earned the title of forums biggest retard...You want a dunst cap to go with that tramp?

BTW I already have a motor swap for my car.

Ok, this is a thread about an oil pump not arguing motors. I have a Sr, so what? I had a ka.. who cares. You cant even compare a built ka to a stock sr BUT you can compare a built ka to a built sr. Power is based on how much you have to spend. Oh and the sr= stupid retarded thing just shows you are a child looking for anything to try and not look stupid, by having people think that is funny; It wasnt. You dont know what ur talking about so please stop talking, your just looking dumb. The op has his answer and a mod should lock this up tight.