Oil Pump Replacing/Install?

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ilovesideways wrote:
Hahaha...I can't afford to do things to my car because I don't own an SR? I can think of ten different motors right off that I would rather do than an SR (and be able to afford them) Ka's are superior to SR's when built. Why don't you stop being so opinionated and **** off? I think you just earned the title of forums biggest retard...You want a dunst cap to go with that tramp?

BTW I already have a motor swap for my car.
im just assuming youre some whiny broke kid who cant do anything so you decide to rag on other motors since you cant get one.

i dont have an SR, i dont particularly like the SR, but its still a good motor.

KA's have their pros, but they also have their cons. they arent SUPERIOR to the SR, they just have some better qualities.

im not being opinionated, im trying to get you to shut your mouth since youre acting like a kid. calm the hell down, learn who youre talking to, and keep your mouth shut about engine debates when thats not what this thread is about.

and its a Dunce cap, you moron.


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n240sxfnatic wrote:
Ok, this is a thread about an oil pump not arguing motors. I have a Sr, so what? I had a ka.. who cares. You cant even compare a built ka to a stock sr BUT you can compare a built ka to a built sr. Power is based on how much you have to spend. Oh and the sr= stupid retarded thing just show you are a kind. You dont know what ur talking about so please stop talking, your just looking dumb. The op has his answer and a mod should lock this up tight.
No...you're the one that doesn't know what you are talking about...and the SR=Stupid Retarted thing is from a bumper sticker on my friends 240. I wasn't talking about comparing a built KA to a stock SR. I am saying built KA VS built SR spending the same amount of cash on both including the cost of the motor the KA will still come out on top in torque, horsepower and in cost.

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ilovesideways wrote:
I am saying built KA VS built SR spending the same amount of cash on both including the cost of the motor the KA will still come out on top in torque, horsepower and in cost.
Not true, It all depends on how the motor is built ie. Bore,stroke, cam choice, compression ratio, size of injectors, ignition system, turbo size ect... Its going to cost about the same for machine work for both motors and also almost the same for everything else.

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true in that the parts of the motor may be close however you can get a KA motor quite a bit cheaper than a SR motor. And even with all of that are you saying the SR would make the same torque?

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maybe, I dont know enough about actual engine design (like the way air/fuel flows through it) to be able to say yes.

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okay, I know that generally KA's are real torque monsters and SR's have power through a wide band of the high rpms.

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ilovesideways wrote:okay, I know that generally KA's are real torque monsters and SR's have power through a wide band of the high rpms.
KA's have more bottom end (more displacement) but SR's can have more power in the top end. each motor has its advantage.

THE END. stop debating this.

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tramp_drift240 wrote:
KA's have more bottom end (more displacement) but SR's can have more power in the top end. each motor has its advantage.

THE END. stop debating this.
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Good call however a properly built KA can have some good top end to. I'm not so sure as to whether the SR can get the torque though.

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What the f##k guys? Why the hell is there 20 posts about sr's and ka's, and only like 3 post about the actual thread?! MAKE A THREAD!

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I definatly think pulling the motor will be 1000x easier than doing it while it is in there.

I think it would be a royal pain in the *** to get the pump up in the right spot without smearing your liquid gasket somewhere along the line. The front cover(the pump) needs a bit of persuasion to go on most of the time to, and it would be hard with no place/room to tap a hammer.

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^ you can just take the radiator out to get the extra room.

its not really a job that necessitates the motor being pulled, but it would help.

and yes, iloveitsideways, KA's can have top end too, but its mainly a bottom end competitor, whereas the SR is topend, without much bottom end. now stop dragging on the same ka vs sr nonsense.

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I suppose, Didn't really think of that I guess.

It's a horse a piece, but its always easier working on **** when you are standing/sitting next to it like pals

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S13xCrazy wrote:It's a horse a piece, but its always easier working on **** when you are standing/sitting next to it like pals
tr00f.

if youve got the resources, pull it out, it makes it easier.

but if you dont have the resources to yank the motor, its not THAT hard to do it with the motor in the car.

to sum it up, anyway.

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tramp_drift240 wrote: iloveitsideways
It's ilovesideways you longhaired hippy moron.

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lol, i just figured you love it sideways.


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tramp_drift240 wrote:lol, i just figured you love it sideways.
Only from you

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as long as im the pitcher and you're the catcher


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tramp_drift240 wrote:as long as im the pitcher and you're the catcher
ANYTIME!

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To the OP when i rebuilt my Dual cam i was looking for a new oil pump when i saw that they were 2-300 i said f-that i was already in quite a bit so i cleaned and painted the old and it looks new. i suggest taking the motor out because removing the timing cover itself is a little time consuming and when your bent over trying to remove it in the car it makes things 10x harder. If you have the tools,space, and time go for it take it out and clean/paint it while its out

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Thanks RB,

Tramp and Sideways, seriously?

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GTR PrYdE wrote:Thanks RB,

Tramp and Sideways, seriously?
Sorry...hey OT but where can I find pics of your EVO/What you have done to it? I really like EVO's lol....

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zer...67078

pics and a 1/4 vid there. no more OT please

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Pulling the lower timing cover/oil pump sucks balls to do in the car. I've had to do that twice. Its annoying but it's not all that horrible. If you can pull the motor. But i was able to do it all in the car in a few hours. unhooking your trans, draining it, driveshaft, ps, ac etc tehn pulling the motor, pulling off trans, clutch, flywheel etc to put on the stand will end up taking longer eventually.

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zerepdivad wrote:Pulling the lower timing cover/oil pump sucks balls to do in the car. I've had to do that twice. Its annoying but it's not all that horrible. If you can pull the motor. But i was able to do it all in the car in a few hours. unhooking your trans, draining it, driveshaft, ps, ac etc tehn pulling the motor, pulling off trans, clutch, flywheel etc to put on the stand will end up taking longer eventually.
trans doesn't have to go anywhere,be drained, nor driveshaft removal to pull motor. I know this i seen me do it.

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I just changed the trans fluid when I dropped the motor back in, when I pull the motor and transmission will it drain out of the driveshaft hole?

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leave the trans in. It isn't any harder and less stuff to take off and mess with. Otherwise yes when you unhook the speed sensor it will def leak out there but the output shaft seal should retain the fluid iirc.

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have you never unbolted the bellhousing from the block or something?

leave the transmission there, take out the bellhousing bolts. nothing will leak out, its a dry connection between transmission and motor.

do what you have to do, put it back in. the end.

seeing how this entire thread was semi-informative, then really lame, then it dragged on lameness after i had already summed everything up, then everyone started saying the same damn thing.

now its just beyond annoying.

GTR OP, srsly?


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