Obama lies

[WDRacing]

People are going to believe what they want to believe. Obama could outright admit he's a liar and Bob will assume he's only being sarcastic...

Stop the impending rape of America, vote McCain.

[skylndrftr]

And so could McCain

Stop facilitating the destruction of America, vote Obama

[WDRacing]

No one is accusing McCain of being a liar though...and no one is saying he's the next "great savior" and full of hope and ...Jesus I just threw up in my mouth.

Obama stands for saying whatever it will take in order to attain office...PERIOD. Once he gets inside his QUIT AT ALL COSTS philosophy will dig itself in and fester until everything America stands for becomes a husk of rotted diseased waste.

Vote for McCain and save America

[audtatious]

Obama stands for saying whatever it will take in order to attain office...PERIOD. Once he gets inside his QUIT AT ALL COSTS philosophy will dig itself in and fester until everything America stands for becomes a husk of rotted diseased waste.

Obama, Pelosi and Reed. What a horrid picture that makes.

[rn79870]

No one is accusing McCain of being a liar though...and no one is saying he's the next "great savior" and full of hope and ...Jesus I just threw up in my mouth.

No, not a liar, more of an geriatric Duke Nukem.

We've pretty much dispelled the "lies" as mere the mere twisting of comments taken out of context. It comes back to the republican creede: If you can't dazzle them with brillance, baffle them with bullpoop. McCain's supporters have already proven they lacks the ability to dazzle, and now they have failed at baffeling us too.

I want to hear from the OP whether he did his homework on this one or not.

I guess you got your answer...

[WDRacing]

No, not a liar, more of an geriatric Duke Nukem.

SpinMaster B!!! Is IN THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets see...the guy you're totally infatuated with has been caught lying more times then most convicted felons...how do you reply? But but...your guy is old and um...he's a crazy war monger and he scares me daddy...Vote McCain and stop the lies

[smockers83]

Lets see...the guy you're totally infatuated with has been caught lying more times then most convicted felons...how do you reply? But but...your guy is old and um...he's a crazy war monger and he scares me daddy...

LOLI don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

[rn79870]

Nice try Brian except you've missed one thing. Even the OP has admitted that some were wrong and others were stretches. Instead of filtering through that mess for the ones that are wrong and the ones that are stretches, we'll just assume that they all suffer from a questionable origon. I.E, quit trying to harvest fruit from a nut tree.

[audtatious]

_some_ were. Per the link to snopes it seems 22 of them can be somewhat associated with spin or stretching. BUT, what about the other 28? Do you think it is right to support a candidate that lies more than not?

[rn79870]

If half of the statements are known fabrications and untruths, then we are justified, no, we are required to dismiss the total as unreliable. The author has been proven to be unreliable and insincere, and most likely pathological.

[audtatious]

Nothing that goes on in this forum will turn an Obama supporter. Hell, no amount of lies or shady dealings will either. He is your Jesus.

[rn79870]

Matt, speaking of Jesus, I keep getting confused, between Jesus, McCain and Moses, who is the oldest?

[audtatious]

That's a good question. I will ask next time I see all three together

[ishkabibble]

What else do you want? Do I fact check stuff all the time? Hell no. If you want to pay me 6 figures to do so then I surly will be accomodating. FWIW, Snopes only commented on 22 of them so is every one invalidated because less them half are a stretch or taken out of content? To you I'm sure it is.

Nah, just wondering if there's double standard at play. Some paraphrasing comes out of a neocon's mouth and it's gospel, yet a Wikipedia article about the Office of Special Plans (with citations!) isn't a valid enough reference for you.

"surly"? no comment.

[skylndrftr]

No one is accusing McCain of being a liar though

Your right...because we don't just copy paste, but I'll start

"I enjoy the taste of blended children with cancer" ~John McCain

there...thats valid, you guys can fact check it? Audatitou?

not saying hes my Jesus at all, he however believes in what he says and doesn't need to have people resort lieing to support him. This whole thread is low class[/B[ and really shows why people shouldn't trust a damn thing McCain or his lackies or even his supporters say

[audtatious]

Nah, just wondering if there's double standard at play. Some paraphrasing comes out of a neocon's mouth and it's gospel, yet a Wikipedia article about the Office of Special Plans (with citations!) isn't a valid enough reference for you.

"surly"? no comment.

What double standard. Post the 50 lies that Mac has stated and I'll agree or disagree. I don't really care for McCain anyway.

[audtatious]

Your right...because we don't just copy paste, but I'll start

"I enjoy the taste of blended children with cancer" ~John McCain

there...thats valid, you guys can fact check it? Audatitou?

I thought everyone did?

not saying hes my Jesus at all, he however believes in what he says and doesn't need to have people resort lieing to support him. This whole thread is low class and really shows why people shouldn't trust a damn thing McCain or his lackies or even his supporters say

Because out of 50 listed lies, only 28 of them may be correct? As I stated before about you, have just one potential fact wrong and you invalidate everything. It works well towards your beliefs and justifies your support for Obama.

Want more negative discussion about McCain? Post something up concerning his global warming crap, healthcare plan and open boarders policies and I'd call him a stupid jackass.

[rn79870]

I guess we could start with the lie his people posted called "50 lies of Obama" or something.

I got one without even googling McCain and lie. When I googled it I gotResults 1 - 10 of about 6,300,000 for McCain and lie I don't want to look through 6 million cites right now.

Incidentally, I got "Results 1 - 10 of about 427,000 for Obama and lie."

Looks like McCain lies about 14 times more often than Obama does. But then, he's had more "experience" right?

[audtatious]

How can I trust you when:

Results 1 - 50 of about 3,560,000 for bob lies

and I'm even worse so why even view my threads?

Results 1 - 50 of about 6,270,000 for matt lies

For that matter, Greg is the worst of all

Results 1 - 50 of about 9,280,000 for greg lies

Now, if you really want to get technical with this viewpoint then we need to use first and last names:1 - 50 of about 3,610,000 for barack obama lies1 - 50 of about 3,090,000 for john mccain lies

So, barack obama lies more than john mccain

[rn79870]

How can I trust you when:

Results 1 - 50 of about 3,560,000 for bob lies

and I'm even worse so why even view my threads?

Results 1 - 50 of about 6,270,000 for matt lies

For that matter, Greg is the worst of all

Results 1 - 50 of about 9,280,000 for greg lies

Now, if you really want to get technical with this viewpoint then we need to use first and last names:1 - 50 of about 3,610,000 for barack obama lies1 - 50 of about 3,090,000 for john mccain lies

So, barack obama lies more than john mccain

You forgot

Greg isn't the worst....Results 1 - 10 of about 13,400,000 for Brian lie

Not so, factoring in the 2 to one advantage Matt has over Bob in lies, then Bob is still ahead.

You forgot

Results 1 - 10 of about 933,000 for Cindy McCain lieResults 1 - 10 of about 202,000 for Michelle Obama lie.

Again, McCain leads Obama by 4 to 4.5 to 1.

Then...

Results 1 - 7 of 7 for rn79870 lie.

And, seriously,

Results 1 - 8 of 8 for audtatious lie

I declare myself the honest member of this forum, and Obama the candidate with character.

[smockers83]

Brian and I lie the most apparently: Eric lies yields about 11,300,000 hits.

"Obama lies" yields about 11,400,000 hits

"McCain lies" yields about 7,460,000 hits

"John McCain lies" yields about 3,280,000 hits

"Barack Obama lies" yields about 56,000,000 hits

Searches done without the quotations. I think its pretty clear on who's doin the lying. With these numbers, Obama lies, on average, 9.25 times more for each time McCain lies. The range is 1.5 times for each McCain lie to 17 times for each McCain lie. You are no longer the honest member of this forum, I just took your spot.

[audtatious]

You forgot

Results 1 - 10 of about 933,000 for Cindy McCain lieResults 1 - 10 of about 202,000 for Michelle Obama lie.

Again, McCain leads Obama by 4 to 4.5 to 1.

Wait a minute here....You forgot Yahoo....

Barack Obama: 3,610,000(G) + 33,700,000(Y) = 34,036,000Michelle Obama: 202,000(G) + 7,460,000(Y) = 7,662,000Total Obama lies: 41,698,000

John McCain: 3,090,000(G) + 30,000,000(Y) = 33,090,000Cindy McCain: 933,000(G) + 2,200,000(Y) = 3,133,000Total McCain lies: 36,223,000

The McCains, per Yahoo and Google, lie less than the Obamas

[WDRacing]

I'm just wondering....

If the people voting for Obama do so because he preaches change, but is a convicted liar, then aren't they just voting for a party in general? Don't answer that...most Liberals are so blindly loyal they may actually not even know who they are voting against. Yet they will cast their vote in total blissful ignorance. I give you now as a great example. Support the Liberal party and admit FAIL FTW

"Hi, I'm a liar, a rapist and I believe in the quit at all costs philosophy...vote for me because I'll change America" says Obama to his constituents over a loud applause.

Support the victimization of today's youth, Vote Obama.Teach your kids that lying is indeed how to get ahead, Vote Obama.Teach the children that quitters always prosper, Vote Obama.

[rn79870]

"Hi, I'm a liar, a rapist and I believe in the quit at all costs philosophy...vote for me because I'll change America" says Obama to his constituents over a loud applause.

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,400,000 for Brian lie.Results 1 - 10 of about 5,290,000 for Brian rape.

Oh, wait, were you talking about Obama ?

Support the victimization of today's youth, Vote Obama.Teach your kids that lying is indeed how to get ahead, Vote Obama.Teach the children that quitters always prosper, Vote Obama.

You meant great grandkids didn't you, I mean, you were talking about McCain?

[rn79870]

Brian and I lie the most apparently: Eric lies yields about 11,300,000 hits.

"Obama lies" yields about 11,400,000 hits

"McCain lies" yields about 7,460,000 hits

"John McCain lies" yields about 3,280,000 hits

"Barack Obama lies" yields about 56,000,000 hits

Searches done without the quotations. I think its pretty clear on who's doin the lying. With these numbers, Obama lies, on average, 9.25 times more for each time McCain lies. The range is 1.5 times for each McCain lie to 17 times for each McCain lie. You are no longer the honest member of this forum, I just took your spot.

Smocky, you lied

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,270,000 for Barak Obama lies. Not 56,000,000

[skylndrftr]

you guys are less productive than congress...and stupid to boot. It doesn't bother anyone that we are discussing politicians lieing and its not WHO lied but who lied MORE?

theres a highly interesting debate right now on C-Span from the British House of Commons about legislating a change of beer bottles used in night clubs from glass to plastic as a safety measure. You can find me watching that instead of this.

[smockers83]

Oops, I realize what happened. I accidentally deleted lies, so I ended up searching just "barack obama". Man, no wonder that number was so high.

But correcting myself, I get 4.5 million on Google. Still places him above McCain. But I'll take 5.27 million, too.

[smockers83]

you guys are less productive than congress...and stupid to boot. It doesn't bother anyone that we are discussing politicians lieing and its not WHO lied but who lied MORE?

Oh c'mon, we're always so serious in this forum. We need to lighten up sometimes and have some nonsense fun. <<Interpretation: party pooper. Ooo, I just spoke a foreign language. Take that Barack y merci beaucoup, I bid myself ado.

[srellim234]

You know, I read threads and closed-minded "discussions" like this here and elswhere and it's no wonder our country is so messed up.

To start with, you cannot justify printing garbage (the 22 lies disproven so far) by saying, "Well, but other 28 still have a chance of being correct since they haven't been proven to be incorrect. That makes your candidate a bad guy." If you are going to spread the spam going around about someone's integrity, you DO have a responsibility to verify each point.

I'm not supporting either candidate at this point, but you can definitely point the finger at McCain, too. In his quest to show how much stronger he is on foreign policy he identified the wrong faction in Iraq multiple times and insists on missile defense for Checkoslovakia, which is no longer in existence. Is he lying or making a mistake? Or worse, incompetent?

How does the religious right feel about supporting an adulterer? McCain was cheating on his wife, leading to the divorce. Failing to live up to his wedding vows.

Yes a man is only as good as his word and integrity. I also don't believe that in today's political world you can get to the Oval Office with a lot of either. Federal politics is simply corrupt.

It's really unfortunate that people no longer feel compelled or understand the need to come together and compromise. The political climate, which has spilled over to forums like these, is simply, "No compromise. Simply trash the other guy's reputation with lies and innuendo and we'll get our way without compromising anything."

Polarization like this might feel good for your political party, but it is not what's best for the country.

[rn79870]

How does the religious right feel about supporting an adulterer? McCain was cheating on his wife, leading to the divorce. Failing to live up to his wedding vows.

Yes, I've sent this thread in the ridiculous direction it deserved to be sent from the start. Whenever a "reported source" is proven to be 50% false, then you need to dismiss the other half as unreliable. After you dismiss it, you start googlewacking for entertainment.