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Well guys when I went to go take a closer look at what's going on with my ca today I pulled the plugs and guess what i FOUND??????? Oil in holes 1 and 3!!!!! Awesome! I'm assssuming that means BHG???????????????? Fan freakin tastic :tisk:


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Wait, what do you mean oil in holes? You have oil in the combustion chambers or all over the ceramic? If you plugs have oil all over them including the ceramic then your valve covers are leaking oil down into the spark plug pockets.

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:( Yeah oil in/on both my combustion chamber and on my sparkys(porcel/and tips) lol, sorry ment to clarify. I started noticing some smoke, and went to pull the plugs and I noticed my sparklers for 1 and 3 were filled with oil lol, and then after pulling the sparks both out I shined me flash down into dem holes and maybe it's rings but I struck oil.... Awesome huh.
I busted out some rvt for the valve covers but I'ma have ta do something about finding oil in the bustion. Gah I'm going crazy :yesnod

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Are you sure the oil didn't fall into the combustion chambers when you pulled the plugs out?

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Well I took a rag and some paper towels and a screw driver lmao and tried to clean most of it up before I took the plugs out, it's possible some went in. It looked like there was quite a bit though from what I could see. I did a compression test and cyc 2 and 4 were at like 145 psi and 1 and 3 were at barely 100 I was always told whenever you have low compression in alt cyc like that that it's a bhg. But could be totaly wrong lol. :gotme
Gaaaah whatever is wrong I just need for it to last me at least 2 more months till I can get everything else buttoned up with the other motor and shell.

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It just means you are losing compression somewhere. If there is a large quantity of oil, I would suspect blown rings. Head gasket will often present with spiking water temps and a sheen in the radi ator. Those are low numbers, though; you got trouble.

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FML lol :crazy: Yeah man I just hope it lasts long enough to not grenade or do something stupid lol.
I haven't noticed the temps getting up but I never leave town either because I know it will overheat. I think there might be some issues with my heater core though, as I hear a gurgling sound when I use it after the car is close to overheating, air is in the system somewhere or there is a blockage I think. TMS you want to send me one of those fire arms with a bullet lmao??? Needless to say the gf ain't to happy about having an SR20 in the living room a CA that's about to bite the dust and an empty shell taking up a parking space outside lol...Good times! :bigthumb:

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Usually if a hg is blown like you were talking about it wont be on alt cylinders but usually between cylinders and the gasket has blown the compression rings in the gasket and pressure will transfer between the two cylinders. You sir sound like you have some toasted rings or fragged pistons. Saw this on a VG30ET one time, turned out to be damaged ringlands due to being lean on 3 and 5 from failing injectors. Not saying this is your case but you may either want to consider some new ones or atleast having them cleaned and flowed at somewhere like Injector Clinic or Deatschwerks. IIRC Jim Wolf Tech does that too dont they?

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RC and witch hunter are also injector cleaning and flow testing options.

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Yeah, fragged piston is a possibility. My Pulsar with and E-series broke a piston. back in October and I've been building that in the mean time (mostly just been waiting on the machine shop). The skirt broke on one side all the way up to the oil control groove. It started making a ticking/knocking sound and burning oil. I thought I had thrown a rod or something, but couldn't figure out how the oil could be related to that until I pulled it apart. Not saying that's the problem, just a possibility.

BTW, I hate to thread jack, but mods, would there be any issue with making a build thread for an E-series motor in the CA forum? (Since there isn't an E forum and everyone here seems like they'd appreciate a nice build regardless of the motor)

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It sounds like a blown HG man. The gurgling in the heater core is air being forced into the coolant from the bad HG. You know it doesn't cost much to replace a blow HG, maybe a couple hundred at most and you can do it in a day if you start early and work late. And that's doing it by yourself. It can go MUCH faster if you have help. I've done it enough times, I can have the head off my car in a few hours, but I know where every bolt, nut, and washer is on that motor.

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Man I wish you were here float would make my life a lot easier lol. My problem is I've never had a CA apart before much less dealt with taking the valve covers off removing the head bolts using some zip ties to hold the timing belt in place lifting the head up enough to slide a new gasket in retorquin the bolts and keeping my fingers crossed the block and head are flat and not warped lol. Plus the tools I have aren't the best for getting the job done. The only guy that was close to where I live who actually sold me my CA (and who I would trust with any engine work CA related) moved to California years ago, and lets face it there are not many CA gurus around with the exception of the few on this forum and none of you live anywhere close. I mean I have the fsm n all but yeah with my luck something stupid would happen and I'd be even more up $#!t creek.

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Where do you live?

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CO lol Floats probably the closest here :chuckle:

I give up though I'm going to let this one grenade part it out and then buy a rebuilt one from Dee.
I figure head is going to be shot only know after getting it out but sell everything off of it. Block n rods probably good unless a rod lets go, sell the sr t25 no shaft play and doesn't smoke n the harness for transmission and main harness, ect.
So anyone can let me know ahead of time what they want when I part out the engine. (I'll update a posting for it at a later time after I have it out and figure out what's wrong with anything).

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Dibs on the SR T25.

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powersteering stuff, if you have it... it's a pain trying to pull into my garage in a tight area... lol

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Man up. I haven't had power steering for a decade or more. :gapteeth:

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Mike, you masturbate more than normal people, so that's not a fair comparison.

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You're just jealous of my pump!

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Ew

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Cool yeah guys it's going to be a bit but in a couple months I should have everything out n ready to ship out. I'll actually have 2 srt25's one def needs a rebuild so might just add a few$ and sell it as parts or if someone wants it to rebuild.
Yeah n the power steering stuff as much as I love power steering will be going. I'll only be running one belt and thats to the water pump/alternator. And I'm pretty sure my heater core is fubar and I have no intentions of taking out the dash to mess with any of that so I'm recircing the water lines. My goal with all this is less is more and less %^@$%&^$ to worry about breaking lol. I'll be giving my "Man Beaters" a work out for sure lmao :rotflmao

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Pull up the carpet. The floor functions as a radiant heater. My old NA Silvia with the header would heat up the floor so hot it would melt your sneakers.

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Same for my buddy's CA s13. His ebay down pipe almost touched the floor board and it ate my Guiness sandals and a brand new pair of my shocks. Yeah... I was pist!

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LOL yeah I remember when I was running just downpipe out man I took a 72 mile trip and thought the metal was about to light on fire lmao. I had always wondered if it was just me or if it does get hot! Well the floors not the problem it's the ice on the windows that sucks lol :ohno:

BTW looks like a SR member already made things fubar for me. The black top I bought from him that he said was "perfectly fine" I tore down this weekend and ohhhh what this I see on cyc 3 looks like something fell in and the piston smushed it up into the squish pad on the bottom of the cylinder head a million times. Awesome. Not sure but I don't think a machinist could work around it. Unless anyone knows something I don't. SO cycl head new is going to be in near future me thinks......I already hate people in the SR community this one just further proved the point.

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chamber 40S&W, go to guys house, demand 1/2 of money back, beat snot out of said guy, go home and ice down your knuckles while you order pistons and a head lol

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Beat him with a piston. Tell him you have dozens of CA18 guys that will be coming to help as soon as they finish fixing their broken engines.

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Lmao I'll just let him know there's a contract killer in Japan who is just a phone call away! :chuckle:

FML lol I was going to use $400 to start buying some of the new stuff for the head. Looks like it's going to just buying one!
I do feel like taking a piece of rebar to his face, and cracking his piston!

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Post pics, but I doubt anything fell in the motor. What you're describing sounds like the after effects of detonation. He probably didn't know.

Does it look like someone took an ice pic to the quench pads of the head, and maybe the corresponding area of the piston?

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http://s1052.photobucket.com/albums/s456/nismojoe7/


Those are some pics of the damage :facepalm:

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