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Because that's all I hear is BLAH.

THE NEW OBLAHMA SLOGAN....NO TAX LEFT BEHIND! The NEW GIANT SUCKING SOUND coming to an oval office near you.



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^That is perhaps the worst post in the history of politics forum thread-starting.

<Has now created perhaps the worst first response to a bad first-post

\/ Will agree and maybe ban me?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Nope - I concur.

Wanna play in the politics forum, you're gonna have to do better than that.

Threads are like a pencil - without a point, they're useless.

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I thought the whole point was that Obamalamadingdong sucked?

With no happy ending

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When assigning a thread in this forum a "Chad" rating, I start with one question:

"Will this inspire or encourage intelligent debate?"

In this case, that answer was a resounding "No".

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I thought his post was brilliant. Short, and to the point.

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Leuthesius wrote:I thought his post was brilliant.
Everything's relative, I guess.


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AZhitman wrote:Nope - I concur.

Wanna play in the politics forum, you're gonna have to do better than that.

Threads are like a pencil - without a point, they're useless.
What about the eraser end of a pencil? Sure its not sharp... but its useful.

Personally, I resent the whole Messianic complex that people attribute to Obama and his "Second Coming." And how is going to fix all of our problems, but he wont tell us how.

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Agreed, and agreed.

I get a kick out of the folks with the stickers on their car - I asked a guy at my work, "What do you like about him?"

All he had was lame crap, and he looked lost: "Well, I like his ideas, I think he understands what we need to do as a nation, and I think he represents the average American."

Uhhhh, OK. Count that vote, genius.

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It's not even the fact that Obama stands for blurry exagerated claims that will change the way this great Nation is being run, it's the fact that either he or McCain are the best we have to offer.

The system is broken..and badly.

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Obama says stupid stuff all the time and it's not reported in the MSM, Mac or HillDawg sneeze funny and it makes headline news.

MSM needs to go back to reporting instead of "making the news".

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Why bother? They are obviously successful at swaying the sheeple by "making the news". So many people simply base their judgment off of what the media tells them. I think everyone forgets that News and Media in general is a business like any other. They don't exist to keep us informed, they exist to make money. When people pull their head out and realize this, perhaps they'll be able to better form an educated opinion rather then regurgitating what the Liberal media just fed them while they drank their coffee.

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Ask someone about his Congressional voting record and see what they say.

The correct answer: He's missed 241 votes (41.8%) during the current Congress.

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AZhitman wrote:Threads are like a pencil - without a point, they're useless.
But how can a thread about Obama havea point... or substance?

The guy is hallow.

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AZhitman wrote:Ask someone about his Congressional voting record and see what they say.

The correct answer: He's missed 241 votes (41.8%) during the current Congress.
Better than Johnny Mac... by far.

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Only in your opinion. He sux far worse than Mac altho Hillary and Mac are kinda even, IMO

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audtatious wrote:Only in your opinion. He sux far worse than Mac altho Hillary and Mac are kinda even, IMO
Johnny Mac missing 60% of his Congressional votes is my opinion? No, it's a fact, "my friends".

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That wasn't my point, that was Gregs. All three are junk but Oblahma will do nothing but finish drowining us. At least with Mac and Hillary we would still have 1 nostril above water.

What does Obama mean to you? What will he do that provides hope to those who wish so hard for hope? What change will he bring about? Do you really know?

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NX in ur sig looks nice Ish...if it's your anyway

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audtatious wrote:What does Obama mean to you? What will he do that provides hope to those who wish so hard for hope? What change will he bring about? Do you really know?
Don't take me for an Obama voter... I only stick up for him on NICO because NICO is so unbalanced in terms of left vs. right.

Edit: I'm more anti-GOP than pro-Dem, if that means anything.

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WDRacing wrote:NX in ur sig looks nice Ish...if it's your anyway
Thanks. It's mine, 90k miles.

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ishkabibble wrote:
Don't take me for an Obama voter... I only stick up for him on NICO because NICO is so unbalanced in terms of left vs. right.

Edit: I'm more anti-GOP than pro-Dem, if that means anything.
It all depends. If it was Hillary vs. Mac you would be surprised how many republicans may vote for her because they don't like him. Obama vs Mac and the republicans will vote for Mac because they dislike Obama more.

Or are you taking that stance because you have no clue what Obama stands for either and just like him as a black man that is for Hope and Change?

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ishkabibble wrote:
Don't take me for an Obama voter... I only stick up for him on NICO because NICO is so unbalanced in terms of left vs. right.

Edit: I'm more anti-GOP than pro-Dem, if that means anything.
Not "unbalanced" at all - We're actually fairly representative of the general population (unless more righties buy and drive Nissans, which would be a stretch).

Actually, you'd think we'd be even more lefty, given the average age and tech-savviness.

What it tells me is that the left can't claim dominance in any stereotypical demographic, contrary to common opinion.

Maybe moderate conservativism is more popular than you'd like it to be.

Edit: People who think strictly along party lines are often sorely lost, as partisanship is a synonym for closed-mindedness (as proclaimed by a registered Independent who votes on the issues, not the candidate).

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ishkabibble wrote:
Thanks. It's mine, 90k miles.
Ah - Forgot to say, gorgeous NX. Need more PICS!!!!

p.s. Why no ROTM submission? DOOO IT!!!

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AZhitman wrote:Not "unbalanced" at all - We're actually fairly representative of the general population (unless more righties buy and drive Nissans, which would be a stretch).
Maybe I'm just used to being in MN and DC, which are both pretty liberal.
AZhitman wrote:Actually, you'd think we'd be even more lefty, given the average age and tech-savviness.
No kidding... but it might be offset by the large # of military folks, who in my experience are a bit more pro-right.
AZhitman wrote:Maybe moderate conservativism is more popular than you'd like it to be.
I actually see where "traditional conservatives" are coming from and agree with them on quite a few issues. I can't stand the neocons, though. So I guess it's how one perceives the word conservative.
AZhitman wrote:People who think strictly along party lines are often sorely lost, as partisanship is a synonym for closed-mindedness (as proclaimed by a registered Independent who votes on the issues, not the candidate).
Agreed.

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audtatious wrote:Or are you taking that stance because you have no clue what Obama stands for either and just like him as a black man that is for Hope and Change?
His race is irrelevant to me.

Based on his opinions on the war and *gasp* universal health care, he seems to me to be the most insightful and analytical of the remaining major candidates. But I honestly have not bothered to look into all of his stances too deeply. I was reading up on him until the Wright stuff came about, and then I pretty much wrote him off. Cause Wright's a nut, and I doubt his rejection of Wright was sincere.

That said, Hillary is about as Washington politics as you can get, and McCain wants to keep up an endless war. I'm not a huge Obama advocate, but the alternatives scare the crap out of me.

I'm a fan of Kucinich, but he's out of the Presidential election picture now.

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AZhitman wrote:Ah - Forgot to say, gorgeous NX. Need more PICS!!!!
Thanks! I put some pics of my recent trip in Gen Chat.
AZhitman wrote:Why no ROTM submission? DOOO IT!!!
Ha ha. I didn't know stockish B13s could make ROTM.

I still need to fix a couple minor cosmetic issues, then I'll consider it.

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I don't believe in his anti-war stance nor UH nor his global poverty initiatives nor is oil windfall tax plans either so he is WAY wrong for me.

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I know dude nice NX coupe -- the first car I bought on my own was a 1993 Red Nissan NX2000 auto with t-tops (yeah I am old).. Gosh I loved that car -- I wish I could find one like it again but the odds of that are probably 0......

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Obama: World History for $100 Alex.

Trebec: What nation's troops liberated Auschwitz?

Obama: Easy one Alex. What is America?

ENNNNN ENNNN

Trebec: I'm sorry but that's incorrect



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