O BLAH MA

[ishkabibble]

Tell me about it... it took me 6 months to find this one, and it still had a few issues. Decent NXs are getting pretty rare.

[ishkabibble]

Ryon's stalking me again.

[audtatious]

Trebec: I'm sorry but that's incorrect

The history books are wrong because he remembers his uncles (or whomever) were there and that other camp that was closed years before.

[redtop91]

Obama: Actually Alex according to Obama blog history I am correct so up yours.

[audtatious]

He's done a bunch of bone head moves but only those who do not support him call him out on it. Everyone else asks for his autograph and faints

[AZhitman]

He's done a bunch of bone head moves but only those who do not support him call him out on it. Everyone else asks for his autograph and faints

No kidding.

Beatles-complex much, Mister Obama?

In other news, since it's becoming painfully apparent that J-Mac will be our next Prez, keep an eye on veepquest...

Since he's fairly moderate and even left-leaning on many matters (a lot more centrist than most GOP'ers would like), I'm betting on a solid VP to bolster his attractiveness to moderate conservatives and right-handed lefties.

Mit Romney? Maybe.

Altho I'd pay double taxes next year just to see a McCain / Powell ticket.

[audtatious]

I'm not too sure about Romney since "romneyCare" seems to be a big mess in MA.

[HashiriyaS14]

In other news, since it's becoming painfully apparent that J-Mac will be our next Prez, keep an eye on veepquest...

Honestly, if Hillary and Obama run on a combined ticket, I think it's very unlikely that McCain will win unless Nader has an enormous negative impact on the democratic voting base.

The reason is the war. A LARGE majority (like 66 to 33%) of Americans are currently unhappy about the situation in Iraq and our decision to go there. When people vote as being "unhappy with how Bush is handling Iraq", they MEAN that they are unhappy that he isn't hastily pulling out troops. People want to get the f**k out in a big hurry, whether that's a good idea or not. If you're not one of these people, you're in the minority, even though in certain areas of the country that might not seem to be the case.

The war IS the election this year, period.

NOTE: Personally, I think it was an ill-concieved war and it was started for the wrong reasons, but I don't necessarily support a hasty withdrawal as such things tend to have fairly dire consequences.

[WDRacing]

For once I agree with everything you said Hash...I made need to take my temperature.

I do support the immediate withdrawel though...as in C5's and today immediate.

I'm so tired of voting against someone instead of being able to stand behind someone that may actually be a good president. Simply because they don't play party politics nor have bazillions of ill gotten money. I doubt I'll vote anymore...

WD

[AZhitman]

NOTE: Personally, I think it was an ill-concieved war and it was started for the wrong reasons, but I don't necessarily support a hasty withdrawal as such things tend to have fairly dire consequences.

Agreed 100%. But most lefties don't GET that. Why? Because they don't comprehend conflict. They fear it. They see NO positives to confrontation, or assertiveness, and can't reconcile "peace through strength".

Not the kind of people you want around if you're the skinny kid getting beat up on the playground.

However....

A LARGE majority (like 66 to 33%) of Americans are currently unhappy about the situation in Iraq and our decision to go there.

There's 2 different factors at work here. More people are in your camp (and mine) than not. A majority are unhappy with the situation. A majority think it could have been handled differently. But the majority does NOT support a unilateral bail, but rather a measured and strategic withdrawal from the region, with frequent sideways glances at that psycho in Iran.

J-Mac will be fine if he CLEARLY outlines his plan, which I think is a good one - Making our exit from the region a priority, but NOT at the expense of safety or compromising our oft-revised 'mission'.

The major media (and her opponents) missed a great op to slam Hillarious on her war position. Not only was she in favor, but her position was actually more knee-jerk than even the President. At least he waited to hear from his advisers (however wrong they may have been).

[HashiriyaS14]

A majority are unhappy with the situation. A majority think it could have been handled differently. But the majority does NOT support a unilateral bail, but rather a measured and strategic withdrawal from the region, with frequent sideways glances at that psycho in Iran.

J-Mac will be fine if he CLEARLY outlines his plan, which I think is a good one - Making our exit from the region a priority, but NOT at the expense of safety or compromising our oft-revised 'mission'.

What I didn't get from J-Mac's speech last night was really much attention at all to the idea of a "measured withdrawal". If he said that, I must've been asleep, because I didn't hear it. I just heard "surge is working".

I think that most people DO want some kind of draw-down, and I think that McCain is in serious danger of being seen as the guy who wants escalation instead. That will make him fatally unpopular.

Honestly, the only reason I'd support a draw-down is because I think that our military is being strained beyond it's capacity. I'd rather just address that in some other way and NOT have to draw down because of it, as I think we're winning and we should stick around for another year or two in order to properly hand it all off to the Iraqis and ensure that our efforts, dollars, and LIVES weren't wasted.

Why are you guys always so surprised to agree with me? Other than my stance on BS social issues like abortion and gay marriage, I'd say we're pretty much in the same camp (small government, expanded personal liberties).

F**k it, I'm running in 2012

[rn79870]

A couple of things he said that I'm assuming are true...1. The Army and MC are 1/3 smaller then they were when the 91 gulf war started. This scares me. We're saving money at the expense of defense. Also, there are a lot of individuals who are choosing to avoid military service due to the fact that they don't want to visit the desert.

2. That the Iraq military is competently handling the duties assigned to it.

Basically, isn't he claiming that the goals have been reached as far as those defined for a successful endeavor in Iraq? Why not come home?

I still don't know which is more scary, Pres McCain, or Pres Obama.

Oh, and Hash, you'll get my vote. Why wait 'till 2012?