NSR Mount kit fitment

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Since the other thread was closed, here are the larger pics of the RB25 in the S13







This is reserved for civil conversation on the matter only please. If anyone wants to cry about anything, talk to your mommy, not us.


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No, they aren't the best pics in the world, but they will have to do for now. Maybe Cameron can get some better ones when it's daylight again.

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Geez- that thread "who purchased nights or tophat mounts" was on fire!

But seriously, can we get back to taking pics with measurements of all mounts? And let the pics speak for themselves. Please take pics with a ruler or something and if showing the shifter location, please take the boot cover off. The pic above in regards to the shifter location is good. But need to see more of the space between the engine and radiator.

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SEE THATS THE RB25..... I HAVE A RB20 AND AREN'T THOSE DIFFERENT MOUNTS? IF THEY AREN'T DIFFERENT MOUNTS THE UPPER MOUNTS BETWEEN THE RB25 AND RB20 ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

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Night- I said the pic regarding the shifter location is good. So I was asking everyone else who take pics to do the same. And yes, when you gat a chance, if you could take pics even with the radiator not bolted in would be great. Also, please include a ruler in the pics.

And if someone could take pics of the mounts on the x-members without the engine for everyone to compare, that would be good also.

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Yeah, I think the pic of the shifter location is moot. NO mounts, whether custom or OEM can put the RB's more than a few eighths of an inch closer to the firewall than the RB x-member already has it. There just isn't any room.

Btw, for the record, I did not have to do any hood cutting whatsoever on my RB20 in S14. Maybe I'm lucky, but the only thing hitting was the hose clamp bolts on the throttle body, so I just turned them out of the way. The BOV and throttle cable bracket hit the foam stuff, but they miss the metal bracing channels.

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I disagree, I am using mckinney mounts and my shifter sits exactly where it did when the KA was in the car. I don't see why NSR's or any other companies mounts wouldn't be able to accomplish the same thing. His shifter looks to be pretty close to the center to me?

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IN ORDER FOR THE SHIFTER TO SIT CENTERED IN THE HOLE IN MY SITUATION THE ENGINE NEEDS TO BE LOWERED OVER AN 1 INCH (TO CLEAR FIREWALL WITH NO DENTING) AND NEEDS TO MOVE BACK ROUGHLY 1".

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Well then that would make since why mine is centered then. small dent in the firewall and the motor sits about an inch lower.

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Well, I'm looking at the same picture you are, and from the angle I would say that the shifter is sitting about 1/2" forward in the hole....

exactly where mine is with r32 x-member.

Plus, they say you don't have to dent the firewall like you did.

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I think you might be right, from the angle of the pic it is hard to really tell. I guess my point was that in my car with mckinney mounts it sits in the center, so that means it can be done.

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Wulfgang wrote:Well, I'm looking at the same picture you are, and from the angle I would say that the shifter is sitting about 1/2" forward in the hole....

exactly where mine is with r32 x-member.

Plus, they say you don't have to dent the firewall like you did.


I just read the last part about the dent, and realize that we are talking about two different things. I am talking about mckinney mounts, not NSR. with mckinney mounts you do have to make a small dent in the firewall, which is clearly in their instructions that come with the mounts.

My point was simply that you can make the shifter line up, and the hood bracing clear and the steering shaft clear with mounts, or what I should say is with mckinney mounts.

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yet... homeboy up top has the mckinney kit, and it sits perfect... and your kit obviously does not, based on a customers review of the product...

So all you have to do is prove, 100%, that you have installed an rb25, in a 240, with YOUR kit, and it sits right in the center hole, and has no clearance issues...

how about a picture from the top of the shifter hole? and some pictures of the actual mounts, obviously needs to be well lit.

Otherwise, and i dont hesitate to throw this out there... you could be using a kit that well, works. ya know :)

so uh, do us all a favor and provide that proof, rather than babbling on about your "experience with rbs" ...

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Did anyone else catch that the McKinney mounts guy had to dent his firewall? That seems to be the issue. With the NSR mounts you dont have to dent the firewall, but it might not sit the engine back quite as far; with the McKinney mounts you DO have to dent the firewall, but it goes further back. Geeze, I dont need RB experience, or Scooby experience, or any experience of any kind to figure this out...just reading comprehension skills ;)

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if i remember correctly, the dent is pretty small, and its not mashing the entire tunnel up so you can get it further back...

in my opinion, whats the point of buying custom mounts if they dont do anything to help the situation? you could use the stock mounts, and xmember and get the same results.

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Ok this is getting really weak. I am all for drama lol but lets kill it already. Tophat has mounts so those Mckinney. You dent the firewall with one and you don't with the other BFD. I have seen the McKinney mounts and the motor sits in the car as if it came like that stock. Now when I get my mounts...........I'll post pics from ever angle with money shot pics. Lets face it nothing in life is perfect so take it with a grain of salt. Lets move on to bigger and better things like the 400hp club.....ON PUMP GAS!

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Yeah I needed mounts with the motorset that I bought from Cameron. Who cares if the shifter is an inch up scoot your seat up an inch. Then you will be in the same position! I just want it to lower it and clear the hood thats all I care about. I think it looks ghetto with hood bracing missing when you are showing off your ride.~Andrew~

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I'm suprised nobody has made a simple stenograph-style shift adapter for the engine. It wouldn't take much space.

For those NSR mount pics, could you give us a clear picture of the underside of the hood? I can't see if it's been cut or not.

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AREITU wrote:I'm suprised nobody has made a simple stenograph-style shift adapter for the engine. It wouldn't take much space.

For those NSR mount pics, could you give us a clear picture of the underside of the hood? I can't see if it's been cut or not.


Don't even waste your time with those mounts just buy the McKinney Mounts. Unless you don't care about service then don't.

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i'll second that...

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These threads are so stupid... yet funny =p

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whoa..... thats not what I'm trying to accomplish here. These are great mounts that were designed with a purpose. Don't go writing the mounts off, I'm just trying to clear up some misconceptions cameron is putting out there. If you guys are seriously interested in these mounts go stright to the source and contact Mike from Tophat and he can explain the ins and outs of these mounts to you throughly.

Cameron RB25 upper mounts are different and I have owned a RB25 if you want the guys number who I sold it too I can give it to you. The RB25 Recirculator valve is mounted sideways not verticle giving more clearance. You guys use the same kit because Mike designed an upper mount and a lower mount.... so I'll give you that one.

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[quote=" gabossie

This is reserved for civil conversation on the matter only please. If anyone wants to cry about anything, talk to your mommy, not us. [/quote]Where is your buddy? the heat is on and he is off to never never land again? Tell him to return my email.

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Yellow4g63 wrote: Tell him to return my email.


When did you send it? If it was before, or during the time that our site was down, it was never recieved. The servers that the site is on went down unexpectedly(oviously) and they lost everything including the emails. So you may want to send a new one.

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I have a quick question, do N7R's mounts work? If they do whats the point of this thread. Are we simply comparing the different types available, or what. Don't let this turn into a trash talking thread.

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I'm at work brother...lol, I work mid shift. Dude, I'd love to swing by. I actually have to be in Phoenix this weekend so...we'll work somthing out for sure. Hopefully Greg can come down as well. We can do beer and wings...your treat of course...heh.

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THE PROBLEM CAMERON IS THAT YOU ARE MOUNTING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ENGINE THEN MINE. I HAVE A RB20DET AND THERE ARE A FEW THINGS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THESE TWO ENGINE SWAPS.

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Watch out! the "hitman" is comming. And he's pissed about the last one. I'd hate to get buckwheat'd from this forum.

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Thanks for getting everything worked out for me Cameron. I'll have to hit you guys with some pics of the RB20 mounted in my 240. Then you guys can see the reality of how they fit with the RB20 from an unbiased person. They look great and I am sure they will fit to my liking. I'll post pictures when I get the engine bay painted and start swapping. I take tons of pictures so that wont be lacking.~ANDREW~

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I tried to stay out of this, but that statement is bias. You are saying "I am sure they will fit to my liking"

An unbiased opinion would be " I recently purchased mounts from NSR and I will install them and take pictures, so we can all see if they perform as advertised"

I have never seen these mounts in anything other than pics, and they look fine to me, but this argument was about what cam said they did vs what they actually did according to a customer and the manufacturer of the mounts.

I hope that they work out for you, and I am sure everyone will look forward to seeing the pictures.

My advice to anyone buying anything is to search every forum you can, before buying anything from anyone.

I would really like for Cam's business to be succesful and all his customers to be happy, so that some day I would even feel comfortable buying something from him. Honestly, I just don't see it happening. I have been reading the same type of customer complaints for 6 months about NSR, and from my own attemps to buy a clip and IC piping, I am not at all impressed.

I speak highly of places like Horsepowerfreaks.com, summitracing.com, mckinneymotorsports.com, and dragdriftautox.com because they proved themselves to me and earned my business by living up to their promisses.

Everytime I crank up my RB (that I got a week after calling DDX), I am thankful that I didn't have to wait a year to get my motor from NSR (whom I had been talking to prior to reading this forum about, someone who had been waiting months for their motor from NSR)

So kick me off if you want, and tell me I am bias, because forums are about information. If that information happens to be negative about a supporter of that forum, then tough.

For the same reason people can post good experiences with NSR, other people should be allowed to post their bad experiences.

I look forward to you posting pics of the install so that everyone can see what it looks like from a "unbiased" perspective.


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