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ok guys this is a pretty dumb post but why isnt my intake as loud as the intakes on my friends hondas, theirs are so much louder and sound better. dont worry i still love my nissan haha. But i got an injen shortram and jus wondering if there is anyway to make it louder


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because a lot of lawnmowers are louder than cars.

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I noticed that you drive a 1991 240. If this is indeed the 240 in question, then you have a waaay smaller space for the end of your cone filter. For example: My friend has a s13 and I have a s14. You'll notice the difference in the amount of space where the actual end of the intake sits. The lack of the intake sound is probably due to the lesser amount of space. I know I have a stock intake box with holes drilled in it and the resonator removed, and mine is loud as hell. Your exhaust could be drowning it out as well.

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hondas, new celicas, sr20ve, they all have loud intakes. the reason? in my opinion it is variable valve timing. a little cam phase will make a noticable difference(spec-v), but a full on cam switch like vtec, vvtli, and vvl(the best) will make a huge difference. the exaust noise is basicly moving up the intake and coming out the cone filter. nice sound too. makes me wonder if a cone filter would sound better than a muffler. j/k.

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hmm some one told me before that cold air intakes tend to be louder then short ram??

Ok now i know ill probaly get flammed for this but you guys need to lay off the lawnmower=honda thing. My opinoin (and to each his own) Nothin sounds better (all motor) then a dohc vtec motor w/ quality intake and exhuast

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91nis240 wrote:My opinoin (and to each his own) Nothin sounds better (all motor) then a dohc vtec motor w/ quality intake and exhuast


I will respect your opinion, but sheesh :rolleyes I'd much rather hear a turbo spooling then INTAYKEH ADN VTECHK!

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sr20ve fully bolted with sr16 cams sounds really nice. lets talk unreal for a sec. ferrari 360 modena. another great sounding engine would be any current F1 motor.

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s13sr20chris wrote:hondas, new celicas, sr20ve, they all have loud intakes. the reason? in my opinion it is variable valve timing. a little cam phase will make a noticable difference(spec-v), but a full on cam switch like vtec, vvtli, and vvl(the best) will make a huge difference.


he might have been refering to the "all the time noise" that the intake makes. A valid point though. If you've ever heard a VTEC system engage on a dyno in a room with cement walls. That alone will damage the hearing..mmmmm...valve timing. I tell you what, I've heard v-8's and I've heard Preludes on a dyno. When I heard that Prelude on the dyno and it hit VTEC, it was louder than the v-8 running straight pipe of his headers.

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oh certainly all the time noise is a subject all its own. i have noticed changes in my cars sound(im embarrassed to say it a beater '93 honda accord) from many little things. it is currently running a straight pipe because everything rusted and i just cut it all off. anyway, i use better gas=no spark knock(yay), advance the timing=quieter exaust with less tinny honda sound, new timing belt=a little deeper tone, etc. wierd stuff can affect the same engine sound output without even touching the exhaust system. can you hear this kind of subtle change on a non-straight pip engine? dunno.

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91nis240 wrote:Ok now i know ill probaly get flammed for this but you guys need to lay off the lawnmower=honda thing. My opinoin (and to each his own) Nothin sounds better (all motor) then a dohc vtec motor w/ quality intake and exhuast


Man I hear Hondas all the time and they sound worse than a lawnmower. They are so buzzy and sound like crap. Sorry but IMO the hype of them sounding like a swarm of bees is completely justified. I perfer a deeper tone.

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i am not normally one to defend honda, but a vtec motor on full song with a straight pipe does sound pretty good. not as good as a nissan though.

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s13sr20chris wrote:i am not normally one to defend honda, but a vtec motor on full song with a straight pipe does sound pretty good. not as good as a nissan though.


which reminds me.. my friend with a 97 prelude, and the h22a4 in it..Broke a piece of his exhaust from his resonator to his muffler. He took me for a ride in it and hit vtech. Wow. Quite amazing what happens when you bottom out and break a piece of exhaust off. this guy sounds like a NuMBAH' ONe StUnNAh' right now..hehe. poor bastard.

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Just because most honda boys happen to **** up thier resonator and buy a ****ty OBX muffler doesn't mean they can't sound great. I'm still waiting to hear this guy I know's all motor 190whp EG6. He drives it so little because he can only run 100octance or higher...he miscalculated the comp ration when he bough over sized pistons so yeah, but it's something else when the VTEC kicks in from all i've heard...

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hahah guess i stired up alot of controversy. But is there anyway too make my intake louder???

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not any real controversy. most of us would prob agree that nissan is the best.:moon :peace

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Cold air intakes are quieter than a short-ram, and prelude vtec systems are wickedly loud!

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wouldn't the fact that our engines (KA's) are 2.4L make a differnce? Considering most b series and h series are no more than 2.0 WOULD NOT GIVE THEM THAT SLIGHT RUMBLE A 240 HAS WITH A STRAIGHT PIPE.

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its not so much about displacement as ign. timing, comp ratio, and valve timing.

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91nis240 wrote:hahah guess i stired up alot of controversy. But is there anyway too make my intake louder???
what intake piping do you have? When i just had a cone on my stock intake tube it wasnt very loud, when i got the whole new intake piping (3") it was much louder

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yeh i got the injen system, 3 in tubing

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i dont know how u figure that ur intake isnt that loud. i have a 93 with an aem intake on it and when its around 3rpm and up, it house a loud growl to it. another thing is that unfortunately, the passenger seat gets to hear the intake better than the driver. hondas will sound louder sometimes since the vtec does have some kind of special noise to it. just my two cents

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91nis240 wrote:hahah guess i stired up alot of controversy. But is there anyway too make my intake louder???


get over it or buy a honda... if thats what youre concerned with you might as well buy a honda.

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yes finally!!!! Thankyou riot hero!!! I knew that this post could not go on w/ out at least one of those immature comments!!! But dont worry your still really cool......:thinker

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i have a warm air intake for my integra, and its loud as hell. I hate it. I dont see why you want to make yours louder. I stole the cheap wai from gibbo for his 240 so i could extend my wai to my stock resinator position, so much quieter.

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s13sr20chris wrote:hondas, new celicas, sr20ve, they all have loud intakes. the reason? in my opinion it is variable valve timing. a little cam phase will make a noticable difference(spec-v), but a full on cam switch like vtec, vvtli, and vvl(the best) will make a huge difference. the exaust noise is basicly moving up the intake and coming out the cone filter. nice sound too. makes me wonder if a cone filter would sound better than a muffler. j/k.
your a dumb ***? Who has ever heard of the "exhaust noise moving out the intake" that is so ridiculous. Go have someone rev your engine and see if you can hear the exhaust out your intake cone haha. dude its a flowing motion from front to back with waste, it doesn't go back up in the form of noise lol.

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the honda intake noise isn't all about the vtec i used to have an integra RS with AEM cai and after 3500 it was louder than any exhaust i've heard. But a KA with a stillen pop charger, that's a beautiful sound from idle to redline I might add

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deftdrummer wrote:your a dumb ***? Who has ever heard of the "exhaust noise moving out the intake" that is so ridiculous. Go have someone rev your engine and see if you can hear the exhaust out your intake cone haha. dude its a flowing motion from front to back with waste, it doesn't go back up in the form of noise lol.


actually that does happen anytime valve overlap is occuring. sound is able to flow just fine with pressure flowing the other way. electromagnetic radiation from anywhere in the spectrum is perfectly able to flow against pressure, and so is sound. sound is a wave so it is affected by pressure moreso than light or other electromagnetic radiation because it is simply a pressure pulse. light actually has some properties of a particle and there are scientists who believe light is a form of particle and not a wave. i am so happy to finally have the opportunity to tell someone to do their homework. with that said do your homework.:thumbup

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deftdrummer wrote:your a dumb ***? Who has ever heard of the "exhaust noise moving out the intake" that is so ridiculous. Go have someone rev your engine and see if you can hear the exhaust out your intake cone haha. dude its a flowing motion from front to back with waste, it doesn't go back up in the form of noise lol.


not a very nice thing to say...at least it was somewhat productive as opposed to your negative renforcement. The whole point of a forum is that if a question is asked, other, perhaps more knowlegable members, have an input to encourage the question and to help said member out.

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pervytheclown wrote:not a very nice thing to say...at least it was somewhat productive as opposed to your negative renforcement. The whole point of a forum is that if a question is asked, other, perhaps more knowlegable members, have an input to encourage the question and to help said member out.
how about you stop following around my posts and mind your own business huh?

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awww, do I detect hostility? Keep the nonsense off the forum. The guy was just trying to help someone out. Something your probably not too familar with in your expansive posting experience.


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