Noob Question Part 2

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Redtop Man
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I know there is a sticky above with this info, but Im still not clear becuase from several different sources Ive gotten different info from all of them. Im going to drop an S13 Redtop into my 91-94 S13 Chassis. Will the power steering and everything be in the right place? I know for the 89-90 you have to get the power steering lines and stuff from a newer S13 chassis. Also will the tach need to be recalibrated? Like I said Ive seen so many versions of the story I cant tell which is fact. Also anything else Ill run into that will need to be taken care of? Thanks


Blown240sx
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You need DOHC cluster and DOHC power steering lines from the S13 chssy if the motor is going into a S13 chassy.

Also next time use the search button.

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Morph
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Redtop Man wrote:I know there is a sticky above with this info, but Im still not clear becuase from several different sources Ive gotten different info from all of them. Im going to drop an S13 Redtop into my 91-94 S13 Chassis. Will the power steering and everything be in the right place? I know for the 89-90 you have to get the power steering lines and stuff from a newer S13 chassis. Also will the tach need to be recalibrated? Like I said Ive seen so many versions of the story I cant tell which is fact. Also anything else Ill run into that will need to be taken care of? Thanks
Search search search search i mean common. If you would have searched you would have found all the info you needed.

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Redtop Man wrote:I know there is a sticky above with this info, but Im still not clear becuase from several different sources Ive gotten different info from all of them. Im going to drop an S13 Redtop into my 91-94 S13 Chassis. Will the power steering and everything be in the right place? I know for the 89-90 you have to get the power steering lines and stuff from a newer S13 chassis. Also will the tach need to be recalibrated? Like I said Ive seen so many versions of the story I cant tell which is fact. Also anything else Ill run into that will need to be taken care of? Thanks
all the power steering stuff stays the same pretty much, except the brackets on the motor need to be swapped. i used my USDM PS pump with the JDM PS bracket. that solves that. and for the tach, i beleive the wires dont need to be changed. but you do need to use your speed sensor on the back of the transmission from the USDM one and plug that into the SR transmission. that way your speedo works.

Redtop Man
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Edited for inappropriateness. -Luke

Redtop Man
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Heavy throttle has this to say about their S13 Redtops:

"Fits into US 240SX S13 and S14 chassis with no modifications to engine mounts or transmission mounts. Uses the host chassis driveshaft and differential. Uses the standard turbo SR downpipe and stock catalytic converter location with the 240SX catback exhaust. 89-90 chassis will need tachometer or cluster, power steering lines and reservoir from 91-94 chassis. "

That last part is why I asked, cause you guys are saying one thing and the guys at heavy throttle say another. So which one of you are blowing smoke out of your ***?

Luke

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Redtop Man, they said essentially the same thing HeavyThrottle says. One guy said you need the DOHC power steering and gauge cluster. This implies that if you don't have a 91-94 S13, you will need to obtain these parts for the swap. You're in good shape since you already have a DOHC KA, 91-94. Please keep your racist comments to yourself.

Oh an Morph, be a little nicer to the noobs would you? A friendly point in the direction of SEARCH is usually all they need to get going.

Redtop Man
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sorry, didnt know quoting ray nagan (sp?) was the same as making a racist comment. and the people didnt clarify what years. all they said is you need the lines if its going into an s13 chassis. that helps me zero... but thanks anyway, ill find the info elsewhere

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DOHC does specify what year S13, like i said 91-94. From 89-90, they were all SOHC engines. And we don't allow that kind of thing here, sorry.

He did apologize for it didn't he? http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/nagin.city/

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Redtop Man wrote:Edited for inappropriateness. -Luke
Thats funny. Luke did you save what you edited?

BTW my bad man i was a little pissed earlier i had my weedies so im good now.

Redtop Man
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thats my mistake, i didnt see where anyone said dohc or sohc... i didnt look close enough i guess

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Redtop Man wrote:thats my mistake, i didnt see where anyone said dohc or sohc... i didnt look close enough i guess
Don't worry about it man. We really are here to help you out. So any questions are welcome, whether or not they've been answered before. The first good advice that was given to me here has always been search first, ask second. What's better for an impatient person like myself? Finding instant answers or sitting and waiting for a response?

Redtop Man
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well as i al
Luke wrote:Don't worry about it man. We really are here to help you out. So any questions are welcome, whether or not they've been answered before. The first good advice that was given to me here has always been search first, ask second. What's better for an impatient person like myself? Finding instant answers or sitting and waiting for a response?
ready said i did search first, im on tons of forums and thats always what i do first. i didnt find a clean answer on my question so i was reasking it so I could get answers to my exact question not someone elses question. what ive gathered so far from this forum and other forums is as long as i get a 91-94 chassis i will not need a tach or power steering line upgrade. its pretty much striaght drop in. correct or no?

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Redtop Man wrote:well as i already said i did search first, im on tons of forums and thats always what i do first. i didnt find a clean answer on my question so i was reasking it so I could get answers to my exact question not someone elses question. what ive gathered so far from this forum and other forums is as long as i get a 91-94 chassis i will not need a tach or power steering line upgrade. its pretty much striaght drop in. correct or no?
You got it! There are little things here and there, but I went by the Heavy Throttle guide myself with next to no problems. If you want more information, there's a thread going on right now with some good stuff:

zerothread?id=194790

Good luck!

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what exactly was confusing, Redtop Man? I would like to know to clean it up to lessen future confusion. Maybe it's the fact that I've done a ton of swap research over the years, have personally swapped more motors than I care to remember, or just have an odd brain for understanding things that shouldn't make sense, but I re-read through Heavy Throttle's FAQ, read through this thread, and I don't see any confusion with the info being stated from either source.

Redtop Man
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tenkawa_akito wrote:what exactly was confusing, Redtop Man? I would like to know to clean it up to lessen future confusion. Maybe it's the fact that I've done a ton of swap research over the years, have personally swapped more motors than I care to remember, or just have an odd brain for understanding things that shouldn't make sense, but I re-read through Heavy Throttle's FAQ, read through this thread, and I don't see any confusion with the info being stated from either source.
the fact that sources other than heavy throttle and here, told me that even 91-94 would need a tach, or some would say all years needed powersteering line work. none of it was matching up. and some of the people on the early posts on here werent wording things very clearly for a noob like me. i didnt catch the DOHC part, was looking for year models not engine make, though I know well enough what that should have been, just wasnt paying attention


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