no 240 love anymore.........

Post by **book-ends** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Hello,

You know, I used to be all about my S13 coupe. I purchased it about two years ago with the intention of making it a bad ***, SR22 (yes 22) powered beast that could hang with the best of them. However, as a college student, it's tough to put away enough money to purchase all of the cool components that I need. As such, things have been pretty slow going.

The reason I bought a 240 in the first place was because NO ONE had one, didn't know what it was, or cared to own one. Everybody was talking about modin' out Civics, ect. and I thought that I would be the odd man out with *different* ride. All of that seemed to have changed when drifting suddenly became popular all of a sudden. Now I get these punk *** high school kids asking me if I'm going to "drop in an SR" and "go drift D1 style".

All of a sudden driving my car makes me like everyone else and it sucks. I know that really isn't true, but I'm in a bad mood. I guess that on the plus side, a lot of the kids that talk about doing something are just talk. Why buy a 240 when you have a cold air intake on your mom's civic?

I've already started to feel better about the whole thing!

Website · Post by **SilSweet80SX** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Thats my opinion, +1

Post by **Altiman94** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

In my opinion, a 240sx is just another car, I bought mine because I watned to start autocrossing and I knew my U13 altima wouldn't do very well in stock form. I didn't really want to spend that much money on suspension parts to start out. My best friend, gibbo80, has a 89 coupe that I really liked, so I decided to buy my very own s13 hatch. I've never even attempted to drift, so I know I can't do it.

Post by **WingsNThangs** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Don't sell out on your 240 because it is getting popular. If you were a true enthusiast, it would be about the car, not the kids down the street. If you feel that driving your car sucks because you see so many kids driving it, then maybe youre better off selling it.

Post by **book-ends** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Oh man..........I have so much time, sweat and money invested in this car that I wouldn't even think about bailing on it. I just hate how many people have been asking me about it lately.......... and not because of the work, but simply because they saw some hooker lying on one in Import Tuner..........

Post by **deftdrummer** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

ive been thinking about selling my car too and just getting a 92 honda accord or something. Im gonna move out soon and i could sure use the extra $$$. Plus i got 2 tickets last week!

Post by **MasterMan** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

yeah man it sucks, im a highschool kid but i had my car b4 they became popular.. i was the FIRST person in my whole school to own a 240.. now there are about 6 or 7 of them in the school parking lot

its so depressing.. one kid put candy apple green paint on it!!

... i get so mad at times.. but then i just block it out because i love my car, and honistly there is no other car i would want besides a turbo MR2 (91') so im sticking with my car.. nuts to everyone els..

Post by **WingsNThangs** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Nows lets analyze this for once, since this seems to be a common psychological problem among 240 enthusiasts: An ignorant kid demonstrates his ignorance by asking uneducated questions, and although no direct insults were made (rather, flattery and admiration is present), the 240 owner gets irritated to the point where he must vent his anger. Why the anger towards ignorance when no harm is done?

My thoughts: 240 owner has spent so much time learning about his car and the Japanese equivalents and feels educated, which he is. However, the admirer kid probably hasnt done his research, and yes he is fledgling young, hasnt taken a single physics course, and lets his imagination run wild after reading Import Tuner. He runs his mouth, and the 240 owner expects this kid to know what he is talking about. WHO CARES, PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT; ITS NOT LIKE THEY OWE YOU KNOWLEDGE. IGNORE THEM, ACT STUPID, THEIR THOUGHTS ARENT AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE CAR. IF YOU MUST DO SOMETHING, EDUCATE THEM OR DISREGARD THEM.

You care too much about the image of your car towards others and what your car stands for. You should really be paying attention about what your car means to you and your future plans for it.

I hope every 240 owner who makes a new thread on venting about nissan import scene ignorance and popularity reads this and really thinks before getting flustered up over nothing.

Of course this is merely the logical processes of one man's brain after years of being exposed to the California public education system.

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

i'm not buying another 240. now that i don't own one, i see the mentality that this new generation of owners have, and i'd much rather not be associated with it. that and the fact that since the new popularity of the car, the 240sx has become one of the most overpriced pieces of **** that i've ever seen. the car isn't even attractive to me anymore.

...damn, maybe i'm in a bad mood too.

-demetrius

Post by **BadMojo** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

WingsNThangs wrote:You care too much about the image of your car towards others and what your car stands for. You should really be paying attention about what your car means to you and your future plans for it.

Sounds good to me. I like my car for what it is, not what others think it is. I got a fun, sporty RWD coupe for ~$3000, which in my opinion is a good thing. It's cheap to maintain and the availability of aftermarket parts is increasing. Cost to insure isn't too outrageous.

I don't care what others think of my car, clothes, hair, etc...as long as these things make me happy, I'll stick with 'em.

When I get tired of my 240SX or when it stops running, I'll get something else. Until then, I'll just enjoy my car.

Post by **offtheline** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Look at it like this: You have a car that other people want now. Before they didnt want it. Now your car gets more respect than it did before. Stop thinking about it as a bad thing that other people know about these cars now.

And to the guy bashing the 240 and the 240 owners, why are you on this message board if the cars are such "overpriced pieces of ****"?... heh, you are the one driving the saturn.

Post by **WingsNThangs** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Because he was a 240SX owner just like you and me. Read carefully.

demcj wrote:i'm not buying another 240. now that i don't own one...

Looks like he's been there, done that.

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

festino wrote:And to the guy bashing the 240 and the 240 owners, why are you on this message board if the cars are such "overpriced pieces of ****"?... heh, you are the one driving the saturn.

and you took offense to that? as far as being overpriced, they are. up until recently, i've been in the market to buy another 240, but after seeing numerous cars with pricetags that would make me rub my eyes to make sure i was seeing straight, i gave up. and do you know what the selling points for these cars were? "this is the perfect candidate for an sr swap." and these people weren't dealers, they were private owners! i remember one woman wanted $2000 for a fastback that was in VERY good condition...at least that's what the ad in the paper said. when i got there, the car had 2 flat tires, rust on the hatch where the wing USED to be, damaged front bumper, shredded interior (looks like someone locked a kitten with a 200lb rottweiller inside), and an engine that drank oil faster than a nitro powered drag car burned fuel. what killed me was that she would not budge on the price! not one single inch! why? she knew she would sell it.

i'm not trying to bash anyone here, so don't take any of this personally. maybe this thread just sparked some unknown frustration i've had hidden inside. i'd much rather vent it here than turn into some big green guy and start smashing things.

and yes, i do drive a saturn. and to be honest with you, i find it kind of refreshing to not be in the import scene. i hang around here because i like it here, and i stick my sometimes useful two cents in every now and then to help people out.

-demetrius

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Shoot...I dont like my 240 because of SR's or drifting...I just got it because it was cheap and the best platform for what I wanted to do...screw drifting and screw those damn kids!

Post by **jacob360** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

I guess this might be a good thread for me to vent a little, cause I've been kind of pissed off about 240s recently.

I've always liked Nissan. I used to want to build a B13 Sentra SE-R, and still do, but the more I learned about driving, I decided I would have more fun with a rear wheel drive car, and so my love of the 240sx was born. This was over two years ago. I was in school, and had NO money to get even a beat up $2000 S13. When the first "Project Silvia" article came out in SCC, I got a sick feeling in my stomach, because I knew my dreams would soon be more difficult to realize.

Two years later, out of school and finally making money, and I can't even find a decent S13 hatch, let alone for a good price.

I see 240s cruising around town everyday, but I can't get one. It makes me sad to see someone driving one that will either ruin it by ricing it out, or never build it to it's full potential. The other day I got sick when I saw a perfect S13 Hatch with a gigantic gay *** wing on the back. I was tempted to tear it off and carjack the stupid ******.

I feel a little better now. I think I'm going to have to take a trip down to LA to find a 240.

Post by **book-ends** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Hello everyone,

I really didn't want to start anything major when I started this thread, but it looks like there are a few people that understand what I'm talking about. There also seems to be a lot of good points being made..........

I'll tell you what though, I just went to the store to pick up some items for dinner and all of the qualms I've been having lately seemed to slip away. My car is awesome! It's probably not going to be featured in a magazine or anything, but it puts a smile on my face and is damn fun to drive!! When all is said and done, that's what matters right?

To top it all off, I recently moved up here to Evergreen (elevation 7800 ft) and there isn't a 500 yard stretch of straight road with-in ten miles of me!! I'm far from Denver, but you can't beat the winding mountain roads...........

Post by **Repo Man** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

demcj wrote:i'm not buying another 240. now that i don't own one, i see the mentality that this new generation of owners have, and i'd much rather not be associated with it. that and the fact that since the new popularity of the car, the 240sx has become one of the most overpriced pieces of **** that i've ever seen. the car isn't even attractive to me anymore.

...damn, maybe i'm in a bad mood too.

-demetrius

I can appreciate your point demetrius. The Infiniti guys don't call them "wet turds" for nothing, and they're sometimes right but don't tell them. It seems that any ragged-out POS 240 is listed as a perfect swap candidate. Sure, if you want to put a lot of time, effort and cash into making the rest of the car livable/respectable after you've done the drivetrain.

I love the 240 for many reasons. They're cheap (at least they were), cheap to insure, easy to work on, decent mileage, reliable as all hell, fun to drive even in KA form, look good and have killer handling potential. Even in stock form the handling is crazy-go-nuts.

They are however like any other discontinued car. They are not getting any newer and are also subject to the basic principle of supply and demand. I happened to luck out in the purchase of my 240, but I did drive almost 700 miles one way to buy it. What's really ironic is that it was in the NICO buy/sell/trade for weeks before I finalized the deal with Bubba1.

Now, almost ten thousand miles later, it runs better than ever, still doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil and remains the "perfect swap candidate" with 198.5k on the odo. Oh yeah, I paid $1400 for it and have run 16.4 at 83mph on the bone-stock single cam in 100% humidity at the last BG NICO meet.

The point is, they're out there. You just have to know where to look and how to buy.

repo

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Bah screw it all I'm leaving and gonna buy a golf 2 GTI. Oh wait i'm lying. I love the cars, have for a long time. Although a GTI would be so sweet for the autocross. Hey repo I really regret not running up in bowling green I would have liked to see how my car and driving compared to yours. Next time there is a meet with a track we should run. I have never dragged my car, but would like to give it a shot a time or two. SOHC v. SOHC :batman

Post by **hadokenny** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

kinda funny how some of us used to biatch about how ppl underrate 240sx and stuff...Now u guys get pissed because people think our car is the shizt.

for the lucky ones that actually have a 240sx to drive, appreciate it. A lot of people cant afford to buy the 240 anymore nowadays.

Website · Post by **matchstyc** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

I'm always proud to say I've owned my 240sx for five years now. And the car I had before that was also a base model '90 s13. R.I.P. I had no idea the 240sx was even remotely popular. Then I went and looked in some import magazine the other day and almost every drift racer had an s13!? I was shocked!!

Post by **jacob360** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

krazy skwerel wrote:Bah screw it all I'm leaving and gonna buy a golf 2 GTI. Oh wait i'm lying. I love the cars, have for a long time. Although a GTI would be so sweet for the autocross.

I'll trade you my MKII Golf GTI for your 240.

Just kidding; it's an 86 (8 valve) beater, but it gets me around and I have fun with it, despite the worn out sloppy 160,000 mile suspension.

I'm tempted to put money into it, but I know I'm going to need every penny when I eventually get my 240.

Post by **WingsNThangs** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

hadokenny wrote:kinda funny how some of us used to biatch about how ppl underrate 240sx and stuff...Now u guys get pissed because people think our car is the shizt.

You sound like you've owned your car since the mid-late 90's, when the 240 was not a popular car. It be came noticeably popular around 2001+.

Post by **Sil40_Mayhem** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

i think i've always dug the 240. i've always liked sporty cars, and it was no exception. hell, i was gonna buy one new while i was in the service, but that price would've crushed my lil military wallet (back in '98 for a brand spankin new one, around $25000-$27000!). i've driven FWD cars all my life (some 26 1/2 years now, 10 1/2 of that driving, mind u) and i've been wanting something compact and RWD for the longest. yeah, even before they were cool. and now that they are? that just means (hopefully) more aftermarket and oem parts available to keep it running...

Post by **Blackstar** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

I bought my first 240 in 1999, a 93 coupe. I was looking for a sports car that I could afford and thought the 240 was one of the best looking cars out there. When I finally drove one, I had to have it. back then nobody knew what it was, I got complimentated and asked all the time if it was a 98 or 99. I sold it in 2001 cuz I need money at bought a beater 84 prelude. Just recently I bought another one and have started to get back into the import scene and was shocked to see how much popularity the 240 has gained in the past couple of years. It makes me a little sad too to see all these ricer kids out there molesting our cars, but I really don't care cuz I love my car and truely appreciate more than any of those stupid ricers who are just buying them up cuz its cool and they want to drift.

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

I think people get to goddamn impatiant. Honestly, there are tons of 240s out there in good condition, but people just want it instantly without putting much work into finding one. My one freind went out and looked at about 7 s13s and he found a mint, 93 240sx SE coupe manual with power everything, for only $2400. And this was just earlier this year.

there is nothing you can do about the media attention the car has gotten but to deal with it.

Also, what the hell is wrong with drifting or wanting to drift? Its FUN AS HELL! WHAT IN THE GODDAMN HELL IS WRONG WITH WANTING TO HAVE FUN?!?!?!?!?!

Post by **Blackstar** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:Also, what the hell is wrong with drifting or wanting to drift? Its FUN AS HELL! WHAT IN THE GODDAMN HELL IS WRONG WITH WANTING TO HAVE FUN?!?!?!?!?!

There's nothing wrong w/ drifting, I agree, its fun as hell, but I personally didn't buy my car for the sole reason of drifting, thats all.

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

and neither did 99% of other 240 owners, thats why i hate hearing people complane about drifting

Post by **Blackstar** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

I think in the past few years alot more than 1% of 240 owners bought their cars for the reason of drifting. I'm not saying that there's anything really wrong w/ that, I was speaking more out of frustation for the fact that since drifting has become "trendy" so has the 240

Post by **s14=pimpin'** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

Damn, I've always loved the s14 (when it first came out in '95). I originally wanted a Z32, but knew I couldn't afford one for a while. Even back in the late 90's, SR's were covered in SCC and the other mags, people just never took them seriously. All throughout college, i wanted a 240 badly, and always talked about the SR swap while the rest of the world was screaming b18C. Then, I met a guy about 4 years ago, who was a mechanic, and had an SR swapped into his ride. It was my 2nd time in a 240sx, first time in an SR powered one. Even in the winter, the car handled like it was on rails, and the SR power was there. I knew I'd have one, but didn't care much for the SR after my first test drive. The car is great, and although it is popular now, its not that riced out here in Toronto (at least I haven't seen many). Despite all the media coverage, I still love my ride, and wouldn't trade it for anything (and I can prove it, since this is my 2nd S14).

And over inflated prices are perfect for the day that I do deciede to sell it (see, there is an upside to everything!)

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:09 pm

I have no problem getting sideways in my car (when it runs) I just dont care to watch it or anything...and the name...drifting...why not just call it fishtailing? that's all it really is is several variations of a fishtail, something I could do in my 90 camry and my old blazer...heck, I could even sustain it in the blazer (yes, it felt like it would tip over at any moment)

no 240 love anymore.........

no 240 love anymore.........

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