Nistune users?

[Kouks]

What kind of experience if any nistune users are one here? is it decent to use and learn on. I am very familiar with nissans consult, and still work for nissan as a technician/mechanic/grease monkey.

Would like to hear some feedback if this is worth the money or not.

BTW, i havent been on in awhile but building now, bigger and badder then ever...

[beans33]

i really like it alot. I ditched megasquirt so I could get nistune. I have only had it for a couple of months but it seems to be worth the money. If you are intrested my freind is a authorized dealer for Nistune and will install it.

[float_6969]

He's in Florida. That's a bit of a drive.

I have no experience with it, but I do have experience with SDS, and I can tell you it's pretty easy to install and wire up if you have access to a welder and some metal, and there is NOTHING easier and faster to tune on.

[beans33]

he can just send his ecu to him. At least that's what everyone else does. He probably does 10 - 20 a week . just a thought

[XTCshri2222]

I've been running Nistune for over a year, its easy to use and it works well, value for money Nistune is great.

[Kouks]

What kind of price would i be looking at to install an sds?

btw, where did this fn-qr thing come from? you hatin on the qr25? lol. this is for the ca, float i hope you remember me still...

[float_6969]

SDS will run you about $1500, give or take.

[DALAZ_68]

ive had it for roughly...a yr...havent messed with anything yet...no time...and need my adj Fuel press reg installed...harsh trueth...

[Kouks]

is that price justifiable considering the nistune costs less?what kind of added features make it worth the extra money?

[louiswun]

I have been helping my friends to insatll Nistune and make tuning on SR20DET, CA18DET, RB20DET and a Z32 ECU on RB25DET, it works great, similar with Apexi Power FC. It is around AUD220- AUD240 + shipping.You don't have to make any change to your wiring (if your engine currently runs fine), but you must have knowledge on soldering if you are going to install by yourself.

[ard]

i've been playing with nistune for a couple of months. imho it is best bang for a buck if you are using bolt-on mods. easy to install, easy to work with. price is really good. thumbs up

[float_6969]

is that price justifiable considering the nistune costs less?what kind of added features make it worth the extra money?

Easeir to tune, anti-lag, map/rpm based output switch, N20 ignition retard, no MAFS (uses MAP and IAT), and IDK if the Nistune has built in wideband/narrow band logging, but the SDS has that as well.

Worth is a hard word to quantify. I've never used Nistune hands on, but I've seen the software, and it's much like most of the other standalone's out there, and the SDS is WAY easier to tune. The ease of tuning the SDS saves you money at the dyno. An SDS can almost always be tuned faster on a dyno than any other standalone system out there. I can usually have a pretty darn flat air fuel ratio sorted out in 3 runs.

[sjbsuperman1425]

i've been looking into NIStune for a year or so now and i think its looks very appealing for the price, but keep in mind, its in BETA form and sometimes has problems. People have had good luck with it though from what I hear.

I just ventured to the SDS site (i think its http://www.sdsefi.com ) and even though the price is steap, it does provide you with basically everything you need. Only problem is, and correct me if im wrong, that you have to tune the SDS out of the box, where as the NIStune is install, then drive off sort of thing.

I'll probably go NIStune, as I'm not shooting for high power, but I might recommend my friend to SDS for his RB25.

[louiswun]

IDK if the Nistune has built in wideband/narrow band logging, but the SDS has that as well.

Yes, it does have built in wideband logging, support most of the wideband kit.

[DALAZ_68]

Yes, it does have built in wideband logging, support most of the wideband kit.

its just a b*tch to get it to work with Windows Vista...as far as i remember...

[MeanGreenS13]

Vista and Nistune do NOT work well together... if you have XP, you will be fine, otherwise, get XP cause VISTA SUCKS!!

[sjbsuperman1425]

Vista and Nistune do NOT work well together... if you have XP, you will be fine, otherwise, get XP cause VISTA SUCKS!!

lets not forget that NIStune is also a beta program.

[float_6969]

SDS doesn't come with any sort of base map, but if you read through the book, you can easily tune it on the street in an hour or less. When I did mine (I'd never tuned anything before in my life) I did a simple street tune to get it running, and then I went to a weekly test and tune we have at the local drag strip and got the AFR's sorted out in about 4 runs.

The timing is pretty basic, and I could easily give you a basic, safe, timing map right now.

The reason SDS doesn't come with a base map is because it's so easy to tune you don't need one.

[sjbsuperman1425]

damnit Ryan..you make me want SDS haha

[boost_boy]

damnit Ryan..you make me want SDS haha

I second him on the SDS. I bought my first SDS system in 2001 and didn't know crap about tuning. Now, installing and tuning SDS systems is a part of my resume and that's with any injector kit you chose to use. Oh yeah, that's tune and drive without blowing-up your engine. Others swear by Nistune and because it's cheap, I say give it a try if the SDS or any full standalone is out of your budget.

Dee

[bentvalves]

this isnt a debate its a Nistune thread

power FC rock n rolls though. D-jetro/L-jetro sr20det ECU wired to suit ca18, so long as you dont plan on running sub inlet butterlies. With price of ca18 power FC's through the roof, sr20 route is the way to go. Are we allowed to post ebay links here? There are power FC's w/hand commanders going for the price of new SAFC's online right now good lordy. Do some research, find out which one is easiest to repin to run a ca18, and you have a programmable fuel/spark controller for 450.00 Has sensor check functions to make diagnosing running problems 1-2-3. Has warning features to flash lamps when knock is high, injectors are maxed, or MAF is on edge.

450.00!!!

[float_6969]

I'm not trying to say SDS > Nistune, I'm just answering questions.

[Kouks]

Proper diagnostic ability is important, so is ease of tuning. I would also love to run a map system and get rid of my z32 mafs. i think i am leaning more and more towards a full standalone. the price of an sds doesnt deter me and the fact that their is more common knowledge towards sds on this board, with easier tuning is important to me. thanks guys, time for more research....

[beans33]

good luck, Ill keep you updated with my nistune experience.

[KEMP]

Vista and Nistune do NOT work well together... if you have XP, you will be fine, otherwise, get XP cause VISTA SUCKS!!

i have had no problem with vista on my nistune, i use nistune on my car, and my laptop is vista...

[DALAZ_68]

so im wondering, i have a nistune ECU...and my motor is stock, but, is there a way to make the motor quicker on spool thru the ecu ?

pretty much make the power band come sooner than later... sounds wierd its, just, i was told to ask by some friends who drove my car at the drift track event last saturday...

so i dunno

[mbmbmb23]

so im wondering, i have a nistune ECU...and my motor is stock, but, is there a way to make the motor quicker on spool thru the ecu ?

pretty much make the power band come sooner than later... sounds wierd its, just, i was told to ask by some friends who drove my car at the drift track event last saturday...

so i dunno

You'd have to change the timing map......kinda iffy to just "tinker" with. Its probably easier to just advance the timing one tooth on the belt.

[sjbsuperman1425]

i have had no problem with vista on my nistune, i use nistune on my car, and my laptop is vista...

what Wideband are/were you running?

[blownhemi]

Sorry for this, but what IS Nistune actually? I mean, technically. I've read through the website a couple of times, but I'm still not sure I fully understand.

- is it just a realtime EPROM emulator, like a built-in full-time Moates Ostrich, feeding emulated fuel/timing table data for the factory ECU program (and easy laptop connectivity and GUI), or- does it contain a completely rewritten ECU program as well, like CROME for the Hondas, with a s***load of extra features?

Because if it's the former, I don't really see the advantage to an Ostrich+TunerProRT, besides easier access once installed.

[sjbsuperman1425]

its a daughter-board that allows realtime tuning. Once installed, you still have all your same ignition/fuel maps and everything is still factory, except for the fact that you can plug a laptop into it and change the values to the tables and such.

I decided to actually go with NIStune again, I like the injector/MAF interchangability. Plus, if i have problems w/ Vista and any wideband, I can just take my friends laptop that has XP and just use that.

Anybody having any problems w/ Vista still?