Nissan Versa 2010 gas guzzler

[Dattebayo]

Nope. There's another engine in the back he's not telling us about guys. That's pretty clear.

[nissangirl74]

this one?

[luba atamanenko]

Just returned from a 207.63 mile trip driving at 100 kmph on cruise control. Used 7.27 gallons of gas. So that makes it 28.56 mpg. Will contact the President's office in Ontario and service manager here in Saskatoon on Monday morning.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Consider me completely trolled. IDK WTF is going on.

The only way to figure this out for myself is to go buy a Pontiac G6 GXP for MinisterOfDoom.

I'll beat you with the spoiler.

[AZhitman]

Just returned from a 207.63 mile trip driving at 100 kmph on cruise control. Used 7.27 gallons of gas. So that makes it 28.56 mpg. Will contact the President's office in Ontario and service manager here in Saskatoon on Monday morning.

Oh ye of little faith! My dealership worked with the engineer from the factory in Ontario and after extensive checking for two days now have found the problem. They changed a faulty sensor!!!! Yes, my car set on cruise at 100 kmph makes just under 52 miles per gallon. They took it out three times on the road and the mileage was excellent.

Are you calling the Engineer at the factory in Ontario and the dealership here liars?

[audtatious]

Just returned from a 207.63 mile trip driving at 100 kmph on cruise control. Used 7.27 gallons of gas. So that makes it 28.56 mpg. Will contact the President's office in Ontario and service manager here in Saskatoon on Monday morning.

Have you found the ads or commercials where they state 50mpg utilizing the measurements you expect? Just remembering something means you fail in a court of law without proof.

[jdansmith]

, OP Thats Somebody needs

[Ozzie]

I can get better figures than all of you.
I get KMPG, instead of MPG. (That's 1.609344 times better than you guys)

[RicerX]

Example Canadian Ad for Nissan Versa:

5 Things I'll Bet You Canadians Didn't Know About the Nissan Versa (2010 Model Only) *

1) It is capable of 50mpg! **

2) It is capable of over 0.8g on the skidpad! ***

3) It can be purchased for $9,999 at your local Nissan Dealer! ****

4) It can achieve a top speed of 180! *****

5) It fits ALL of your stuff! ******

---- Where Canadians Stop Reading ----


* Due to supply chain management concerns and costs of production variances, the 2010 Nissan Versa is not currently designed or produced anywhere near Canada, but instead on the other side of the United States. For any questions concerning the engineering of the Nissan Versa, please consult Nissan Mexico.
** - Example fuel economy measurement. Due to variance in driver habits, weather conditions, sensor placement, and choice unit of measurement at time of calculation, actual fuel economy results may vary.
*** - when equipped with Nismo package, GT-R ATESSA AWD system, and BF Goodrich Z Rated summer tires. Due to variance in driver skillset and options equipped, performance results may vary.
**** - US Dollars. Due to varying currency exchange rates, Canadian MSRP may vary.
***** - KMPH. Due to varying units of measurement used, actual speed traveled may vary.
****** - up to 16 cu ft. Due to varying amounts of sh** owned by drivers, percent of stuff to storage capacity may vary. See dealer for details.

[Bubba1]

Example Canadian Ad for Nissan Versa:

5 Things I'll Bet You Canadians Didn't Know About the Nissan Versa (2010 Model Only) *

1) It is capable of 50mpg! **

2) It is capable of over 0.8g on the skidpad! ***

3) It can be purchased for $9,999 at your local Nissan Dealer! ****

4) It can achieve a top speed of 180! *****

5) It fits ALL of your stuff! ******

---- Where Canadians Stop Reading ----


* Due to supply chain management concerns and costs of production variances, the 2010 Nissan Versa is not currently designed or produced anywhere near Canada, but instead on the other side of the United States. For any questions concerning the engineering of the Nissan Versa, please consult Nissan Mexico.
** - Example fuel economy measurement. Due to variance in driver habits, weather conditions, sensor placement, and choice unit of measurement at time of calculation, actual fuel economy results may vary.
*** - when equipped with Nismo package, GT-R ATESSA AWD system, and BF Goodrich Z Rated summer tires. Due to variance in driver skillset and options equipped, performance results may vary.
**** - US Dollars. Due to varying currency exchange rates, Canadian MSRP may vary.
***** - KMPH. Due to varying units of measurement used, actual speed traveled may vary.
****** - up to 16 cu ft. Due to varying amounts of sh** owned by drivers, percent of stuff to storage capacity may vary. See dealer for details.

^ This makes much more sense. Nissan's legal dept would never let ads with claims out without disclaimers like the above. I'm wondering if OP has relatives in Mt. Kisco NY.

[AZhitman]

THAT was spectacular.

BTW, let's not forget, OP is driving on "gravel and washboard" (see page 1). You can pretty much cut fuel efficiency in HALF on those types of surfaces.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Example Canadian Ad for Nissan Versa:

5 Things I'll Bet You Canadians Didn't Know About the Nissan Versa (2010 Model Only) *

1) It is capable of 50mpg! **

2) It is capable of over 0.8g on the skidpad! ***

3) It can be purchased for $9,999 at your local Nissan Dealer! ****

4) It can achieve a top speed of 180! *****

5) It fits ALL of your stuff! ******

---- Where Canadians Stop Reading ----


* Due to supply chain management concerns and costs of production variances, the 2010 Nissan Versa is not currently designed or produced anywhere near Canada, but instead on the other side of the United States. For any questions concerning the engineering of the Nissan Versa, please consult Nissan Mexico.
** - Example fuel economy measurement. Due to variance in driver habits, weather conditions, sensor placement, and choice unit of measurement at time of calculation, actual fuel economy results may vary.
*** - when equipped with Nismo package, GT-R ATESSA AWD system, and BF Goodrich Z Rated summer tires. Due to variance in driver skillset and options equipped, performance results may vary.
**** - US Dollars. Due to varying currency exchange rates, Canadian MSRP may vary.
***** - KMPH. Due to varying units of measurement used, actual speed traveled may vary.
****** - up to 16 cu ft. Due to varying amounts of sh** owned by drivers, percent of stuff to storage capacity may vary. See dealer for details.

This is monumental. Where is the damn like button!!!!

[Athikerguy4life]

mind=blown. I just wasted a solid 15 minutes of my life reading all that..

[krash]

I read somewhere that the 240sx is supposed to get 40mpg. NISSAN USA told me so. I'm only getting 18mpg. I'm on the phone with Obama right now.

[ImStricken06]

my daughter's brand new Altima 2.5 l V4

lets start by saying nissan doesnt make a v4. the only time you will find a v4 - is maybe in a lawn mower from 20yrs ago. i have not heard of a v4 in a car.... pretty much ever. so that already takes away your credibility in my eyes as someone to listen too.
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My daughter's car is a 2008 Altima and I still have the gas bills from when we went to Edmonton. I was amazed as anyone on the fuel economy we got on that trip

your comparing a 2.5L engine to the versa 1.8! dont compare the two. they make different power, and that power is what moves the car. if one engine makes more power due to displacement, it works less.
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you need to compare also the speeds you two were traveling at. in my nissan rogue, at 71mph i get its highest MPG.
if i go under = i loose MPG's simply because i travel less mileage, while working almost the same amount of RPM's
if i go over = im now making the engine work more for less miles traveled.
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and you totally lost me towards the end.
my head now hurts, im now pissed off, thursty, and really feeling like kicking my gf's dog. good day sir.

[300ZXttZMAN]

I read somewhere that the 240sx is supposed to get 40mpg. NISSAN USA told me so. I'm only getting 18mpg. I'm on the phone with Obama right now.

[themadscientist]

my daughter's brand new Altima 2.5 l V4

lets start by saying nissan doesnt make a v4. the only time you will find a v4 - is maybe in a lawn mower from 20yrs ago. i have not heard of a v4 in a car.... pretty much ever.

Now ya heard, Ford did it. Not sure if it was any good. It looks kewl.

[ImStricken06]

Now ya heard, Ford did it. Not sure if it was any good. It looks kewl.

way before i was born homie lol -

but my point still stands, that if this person thought their daughter altima had a V4 - they are also the type to think their versa is capable of pulling 50mpg's
they are also the person think that their altima has the same V4 as their versa and the MPG's should be the same
they are also the person to think that Nissan 'hoodwinked' them into buying this versa - versus a matrix

they are also the type to be a hypochondriac, that takes sugar pills lol

[MuranoDriver]

Thank you for all the laughs all!

[ImStricken06]

http://www.app.com/viewart/20120509/NJB ... d-judgment
funny but this was just published by my local paper


LOS ANGELES — A judge overturned a nearly $10,000 small claims judgment against American Honda Motor Co. that was won by a car owner who said the automaker misrepresented that her hybrid Civic could get 50 miles per gallon, according to a ruling released Wednesday.

Superior Court Judge Dudley W. Gray II ruled Tuesday on Honda’s appeal of a court commissioner’s award of $9,867 to Heather Peters.

Peters had opted out of a class-action settlement giving some 200,000 owners between $100 and $200 each, plus a rebate if they buy a new Honda. She elected instead to sue the automaker on her own.

Peters, a lawyer, also urged Honda owners to take the small-claims route as she did, and her initial success led some 1,700 other hybrid owners to follow suit.

The ruling by Gray will not have a direct effect on any of those other cases. However, a legal observer said it could pose a challenge to those pursuing small claims actions.

“I think it will make it harder for them to fight their case on an individual basis,” said Aaron Jacoby, a class action lawyer in Los Angeles who is not involved with the Honda case.

The ruling is “not binding on another court, but it certainly is persuasive,” he added.

Peters said she was disappointed but glad she brought awareness about Honda.

“They used to go the extra mile in customer service, now they go the extra mile fighting customers in court,” she said in a statement on her website, dontsettlewithhonda.org.

Honda said in a statement that it was pleased with the ruling.

“We are never satisfied when a customer is anything less than satisfied with one of our products, and the company does not relish the necessity to defend the truth in opposition to any of our customers,” the statement said.

Gray’s ruling found, among other issues, that while Peters had standing to bring the case in state court, federal regulations govern fuel economy ratings posted on vehicles and related advertising claims. The ruling also said most owners of that type of car achieve fuel economy close to federal Environmental Protection Agency estimates.

In addition, the judge said EPA miles per gallon ratings are for comparison among vehicles and don’t account for various factors such as the condition of the car or the length of the trip, that can affect mileage.

“Despite these many variables, most of the owners of the subject vehicle achieve fuel economy very close to the EPA estimate,” Gray wrote.

Peters argued that Honda knew it had problems with the hybrid cars but continued to advertise them as an alternative to high gas prices and a way to help the environment.

But Gray said the automaker’s advertising slogans “are not specific promises of anything.”

Peters also said her battery failed early on and was never again fully charged after she received a software update, leaving the car to run almost entirely on gasoline.

“The court finds it was designed to prolong the life of the battery, not to increase mileage or performance of the vehicle,” Gray responded about the software update.

Peters took her case to small claims court in January, saying her 2006 Civic was expected to get 50 mpg but barely got 30 mpg. She said she wouldn’t have bought the car if its mileage was advertised, and her purpose for taking Honda head-on was to hold the automaker accountable for false advertising.

Her suit marked a unique end run around the class-action process that she said offered too little to Honda owners and too much to lawyers. Others counter that consumers are fairly warned when they buy a car that their mileage might vary.

“Most everyone, including customers, generally acknowledge that although the fuel-economy numbers shown on a new-vehicle window sticker should be theoretically achievable, it’s unrealistic to think of those figures as always attainable,” Edmunds.com senior analyst Bill Visnic said.

A judge has valued the class-action settlement at $170 million. Attorneys for the plaintiffs have placed the value between $87.5 million and $461.3 million, depending largely on how many people accept rebates of up to $1,500.

Honda said it has prevailed in 16 out 17 similar small claims cases since January involving Civic Hybrid owners across the nation. The company didn’t immediately elaborate.

Jacoby said while others have followed Peters’ lead, they may not have her tenacity and courtroom savvy.

“She made it seem anyone could do this,” he said. “She’s very bright and very hardworking. Not everyone is like that in terms of bringing their own case.”

[MinisterofDOOM]

Now ya heard, Ford did it. Not sure if it was any good. It looks kewl.

Not only was it good, but its V6 descendants were in production until just last year (unless I'm mistaken and there are still cars being built with them now). They were used in cars ranging from Tauruses to Mustangs to Land Rovers to TVRs.

When I say "good," though, I don't mean "excellent." I mean good. Reliable and durable. NOT powerful, torquey, efficient, refined, or responsive, pleasant-sounding, or generally enjoyable in any way. But good. In the same way that a 1995 Camry is "good." Not in the same way that a small block chevy is good, or a VQ35 is good.

[themadscientist]

But does it float?

[MinisterofDOOM]

No, but it makes a good anchor.

[300ZXttZMAN]

[RicerX]

where is luba? I want to know what the Canadian Ministry of Fuel Economy and Environmental Protection and Nissan Canada have to say about this horrible debacle.

[Bubba1]

where is luba? I want to know what the Canadian Ministry of Fuel Economy and Environmental Protection and Nissan Canada have to say about this horrible debacle.

Heck, I'm waiting for Luba to call Carlos Ghosn.

[ImStricken06]

i just wanna know how her daughter is the only one in the world with a V4 engine in her altima LMFAO
maybe thats why she got such great MPG on their trip?

[300ZXttZMAN]

i just wanna know how her daughter is the only one in the world with a V4 engine in her altima LMFAO
maybe thats why she got such great MPG on their trip?

[mmkeller]

More lawyers getting rich, enough said.