Nick Hogan to return in 08.

[Slappy]

I know , im as pissed off as you are right now. And to think Bill Sherman would be his teammate.

Hey Nick , we all want you to leave the sport of drifting , so please , just listen to us. You can take up wrestling like you daddy , and your finishing move could be called "The Coma".

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Looks like NOPI is allowing Nick Hogan to drift again , this time with his own team.



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Quote »Please tell me how you can even consider giving Nick Hogan a second chance at being a NOPI "Pro drifter" after all of his despicable actions. He should be banned from the sport permanently for what he has done. It is ridiculous for someone of "pro status" to carry himself in such a manner as Nick Hogan has. He has no regard for human life behind the wheel of a vehicle on or off the track , and his driving has proved that. There are plenty of up and coming drifters that should have Nick Hogans spot. Real drifters that are repsectful and understanding of what drifting is all about , where Nick Hogan does not understand , or does he even care to.[/quote]Heres the reply i got from Glenn from NOPI.....

Quote »Well Tom, lets look at other athletes and their problems that have a greater impact on fans and the media as well as young on lookers. Michael Vick: In Fed Prison, will play football once he gets out, not banned by the NFL......Ricky Williams: Look at all of the drug charges and suspensions, yet, he is back in the NFL playing.....Ray Lewis: Accused of killing a man in Atl., beat the case in court, no suspension from the NFL......Pac Man Jones: Convicted of Attempted Murder, Did time, allowed to play in NFL, nobody picked him up, so now he is a wrestler..... I could go on and on for days, we have not eve tipped the iceberg on Baseball, Basketball and even hockey..... We had a player in Atlanta, Drunk, Driving his Ferrari, wrapped it around the telephone pole, killed the passenger (his best friend) did time while recovering, now plays in the NHL, but not in Atlanta...... Nick has not even been convicted of anything yet, Nick has not even committed to running a the season this year.......So why all of the fuss over a maybe or a could be??????? If there are drivers out there as good as Nick, they need to attend a qualifier, or attempt to buy a provisional.Nick went to his first event using a FD provisional and finished 4th, he earned his liscence in 2007, finished in the top 16 in points so his license is awarded for 2008....... What Nick does outside of an event we have no control over. I am sorry that he injured his best friend in the crash, I feel for Johns family and hate for that to happen to anyone, much less someone we all knew. When a judge rules against Nick, if that is the case, that is when the Drifting Organizations have to step in and make their decisions.[/quote]This is bull**** , something has to be done about Nick Hogan.


Modified by Slappy at 6:29 PM 3/13/2008

[jdm_master_X]

yeah he can suck my balls.

[mestizo]

Yea many other better and dedicated drivers could have used his sponsors while he was drifiting the first time around. Now after this I don't think his pro licenses should ever be given back to him and to be honest I dont think that he should have been given them in the first place. But money and fame has a funny way changing people's opinion of what is right and wrong.

[starkos14]

haha, im not too worried, nick is still facing felony charges for his wreckless driving accident. im actually in clearwater, fl right now and their house is almost visible to me right now(given if it was daytime), but i really want to know what the hell is going through this kid's head. anybody know what drift forum's nick is on? i need to pm him and show him that its not about money and fame, well, there's not really too much $$ for drift events yet.

[mestizo]

i need to pm him and show him that its not about money and fame, well, there's not really too much $$ for drift events yet.

I was actually referring to the drift promoters and organizing bodies, they seem to turn a blind eye to so called super stars and money, in an effort to bring people/money in by using the that fame or money to help promote their event. Not that there is anything wrong with promotion, just at the sake of the safety of the drivers you think they would be a bit more stringent with who they give a pro license to.

[starkos14]

agreed as well, I was just referring to the fact that kid should take a season to compete smaller events and get a feeling of progression and see where most of the sport is coming from. maybe get a chance to drive a few different cars too, not what company will give him a car to drive. I feel you get a different sense of driving when its your "baby." I'm also disliking the fact that there are a good amount of professional "racing" drivers that just hopped over to drifting because it was the new sport. oh and along comes their sponsors with the drivers. I just have less respect for drivers like that because they are just out to win and if they screw up their run, they don't even drift the rest of the course, they just get out and cry like little girls. Not to mention a certain final tandem battle from a formula d event last year with a double ebrake entry from the lead driver which resulted in the following driver to screw up his run. I'm not mentioning any names, but it was pretty dissapointing to watch coming from a well respected driver.

[starkos14]

Not that there is anything wrong with promotion, just at the sake of the safety of the drivers you think they would be a bit more stringent with who they give a pro license to.

Now that I think of it, there's no way I'd want to tandem with Nick with his lack of experience. That is unless he gave me a car that he could crash into. I've drifted with drivers like him and the whole time "I'm thinking, get the hell away from my car!"

[mestizo]

Yea I feel the same way, he needed to start where 95% of us start and thats with a beat *** stock car then do all the upgrade's gradually. If I remember right he was in Hubinette's Viper when he first started out, how do you go from nothing into a fully built drift Viper? Easy you have some money and lil bit of fame. It's plain and simple to see that he doesn't have the skill to control the car as well as he should given the pro series he was in.

[starkos14]

yeah, lets see him take his supra out there and see how he reacts when he crashes that, again....

although hitting something at event and havin the crowd cheer is pretty awesome, even though you know you just gave your car a battle scar

[dickie]

hey guys, would you be interested in starting a petition to have Nick Hogan banned from pro racing forever? lemme know...

[S3t0_S13]

hey guys, would you be interested in starting a petition to have Nick Hogan banned from pro racing forever? lemme know...

[mestizo]

Yea you know I believe everyone can make a mistake, however I think this kid has made enough mistake's at this point. Someone is in a coma because of what he did... if this had been just joe blow from the street do you think people would even give him a 2nd chance? No, so why should we give Nick another chance? Money and fame shouldn't have different rules than anyone else.

[redtop91]

Tight! I get to see some cars get EFFFFED up!

[dickie]

zerothread/321282

[dickie]

maybe he will win his events by causing the other cars to crash when he is slightly ahead or riding with the competition in his car the night before putting them all in the hospital with permanent brain damage making him the winner by default?

[thefro526]

In my opinion I think the only reason sanctioning bodies of the racing organizations Nick races in (Nopi at the moment?) are allowing him to race is because of his star factor. They assume that because he's a star people will watch drifting to see him, while this does make a certain degree of sense it also is like selling out. They're letting him drive in place of someone who really wants to and may have a little something called talent. I think that the only thing that will stop Nick Hogan's drift escapades is if he gets locked up for the dumb sh*t he likes to do behind the wheel. IIRC he's currently charged with reckless driving and some other stuff for totaling his Supra.

And should any of his sponsors be watching, I think you should sponsor someone with real talent and promise, give your money to someone who will appreciate it and put it to good use. Nick Hogan doesn't need your money because he's got daddy to pay for everything.

[Slappy]

hey guys, would you be interested in starting a petition to have Nick Hogan banned from pro racing forever? lemme know...

Added to 1st post. Plus , emailed to my 20+ car friends and posted on many other forums.

I'm not a huge fan of the whole "the NFL is doing it, why can't we?" argument, either... thats a little bit childish.

[jacobphoto]

Slappy - ironic I'm replying to someone with that name... heh....

Have you ever seen him drive in person? particularly in his Z...

I was at the first licensing event he went to in July 2006 at Irwindale. I was at the ProAm event in Laughlin in November 2006 when he earned his provisional license for Formula D. I was at every single NOPI event in 2007 that he drove at.

Remember, Nick placed podium at the Pittsburgh event, and finished the year in the top 16 of points. The way he drove at Pittsburgh, I think he could have hit another podium or two through the year if he had been in that car the whole season. Even running the events in the viper, he made top 16 in Miami, St Louis, and Pittsburgh (3/6 events he entered).

Keep in mind, a drivers' regular driver's license has no bearing on their competition license. At least 1 top 10 Formula D driver drove a full season without having a legit drivers license.

PS - Slappy - who are you? where'd you come from?

[Dano]

PS - Slappy - who are you? where'd you come from?

Says the guy with 1 post?

[jacobphoto]

Says the guy with 1 post?

Only 1 post here... yes. I post as "slapshotnerd" on some other forums... google me.

[Slappy]

I was at the first licensing event he went to in July 2006 at Irwindale.

Whoa dude , good thing your ok and not in a coma!

PS - Slappy - who are you? where'd you come from?

You dont know me? Everyone knows me!

[jacobphoto]

ironically, i've been using the alias "SlapshotNerd" for more than 10 years now. A lot of people call me "slappy" for short.

I've never heard of you before yesterday.

So my question still stands - have you actually seen him drive at an event?

[mestizo]

I saw him drive at altamont in 2006 before he had his own Viper and sponsors. It wasn't pretty sight and the majority of the local kids drove better than he did. The other part of that is Hogan was given the last top 8 spot at that event despite spinning twice during his runs, meanwhile many others did a lot better without spinning and still did not make into the top 8. At this point if he wants to earn the respect and right of the drift community he should do some real soul searching. Not just up and form his own team like nothing happened.

[jacobphoto]

I saw him drive at altamont in 2006 before he had his own Viper and sponsors. It wasn't pretty sight and the majority of the local kids drove better than he did. The other part of that is Hogan was given the last top 8 spot at that event despite spinning twice during his runs, meanwhile many others did a lot better without spinning and still did not make into the top 8. At this point if he wants to earn the respect and right of the drift community he should do some real soul searching. Not just up and form his own team like nothing happened.

So admittedly, you haven't seen him drive in a year and a half?

do you concede that he MIGHT have gotten a lot better since then, and might be driving at a competitive level by now?

Do you think that his podium at the NOPI event in Pittsburgh was given to him out of pitty? or because "someone" felt that he was a star and he should be on the podium to get more publicity? Or is it possible that he's improved a lot, and he truely earned that podium placing?

[mestizo]

So admittedly, you haven't seen him drive in a year and a half?

do you concede that he MIGHT have gotten a lot better since then, and might be driving at a competitive level by now?

Do you think that his podium at the NOPI event in Pittsburgh was given to him out of pitty? or because "someone" felt that he was a star and he should be on the podium to get more publicity? Or is it possible that he's improved a lot, and he truely earned that podium placing?

LOL I guess watching it in ESPN doesn't count, and the countless number of viper's he has crashed dont mean anything?! SOme of them were not his cars either. Also I don't think you realize it's not me you were replying to earlier it was slappy, so your comments really make no sense.

I am not saying he hasn't gotten better... altho you seem to imply that I am. What I am saying is there are better drivers who want what he has and takes for granted... Drivers who have not made the mistake's that Nick has made on public roads.

I don't care what place he finished at any event, bottom line is he was street racing and his passenger is in a coma because of it. What more is there to say for a so called pro driver? He doesn't have the respect of the community or the experience that he should given the pro series he compete's in.

Again if it was Joe Blow off the street doing this the story would much different, do you think anyone would even give him a 2nd chance if he didn't have some sort of fame and money? This isn't about his ability anymore, it's about responsiblity.

[jacobphoto]

LOL I guess watching it in ESPN doesn't count, and the countless number of viper's he has crashed dont mean anything?! SOme of them were not his cars either. Also I don't think you realize it's not me you were replying to earlier it was slappy, so your comments really make no sense.

I am not saying he hasn't gotten better... altho you seem to imply that I am. What I am saying is there are better drivers who want what he has and takes for granted... Drivers who have not made the mistake's that Nick has made on public roads.

I don't care what place he finished at any event, bottom line is he was street racing and his passenger is in a coma because of it. What more is there to say for a so called pro driver? He doesn't have the respect of the community or the experience that he should given the pro series he compete's in.

Again if it was Joe Blow off the street doing this the story would much different, do you think anyone would even give him a 2nd chance if he didn't have some sort of fame and money? This isn't about his ability anymore, it's about responsiblity.

You're right, my comments were directed at Slappy, but apply to anyone who are feeding into the idea that Nick should be 'banned' from professional drifting.

Watching on ESPN? When was Nick Hogan on ESPN? 3 seconds of him driving at Formula D Atlanta? He competed in the NOPI series, which is broadcast on Speed, and the way that those shows were filmed does nothing to accurately portray a drifting competition, and I think you can agree with that. They show the big crashes (of which Nick had a few this year), and the girls, and that's about it. Consequently, Calvin Wan and Ken Gushi had big crashes this year in Formula D, which total'd their cars. Should he not be allowed to drive because they have totaled a car in competition? Remember, that Viper Nick was using was repaired and has since been driven by at least 2 other drivers (Pat Mordaunt at NOPI Atlanta and Sam Hubinette for the BFG TV Commercial) since the last time Nick drove it, the car is far from totaled. Several other drivers in the NOPI series (and Formula D) hit walls during the season, but they are still allowed to compete. Why? because unfortunately, hitting walls is a part of the sport.

Yes, I do believe other people would have been given a "second chance" as you like to call it. I don't see it as a second chance. He earned a professional license, he's hit the wall a few times in competition, but he's also earned some decent results in competition as well.

1 - Nick has been CHARGED with wreckless driving (and a few other minor counts including illegal window tint). He hasn't been CONVICTED of anything, and none of the charges include "participation in a speed contest" or "street race" or anything similar.(source for his charges: http://www.tampabays10.com/new...67155Source for the definition of street racing, according to FL law:http://law.onecle.com/florida/....html)

2 - As I'm sure you know, everyone is INNOCENT until proven guilty.

3 - the MAJORITY of motorsport (and sport in general) sanctioning bodies do not hold their athletes / members accountable for their actions outside of the league.

4 - Nick Hogan has NOT made any commitments to drive in any series. Nick has been "rumored to be getting a team together". No word on his involvement of the team was mentioned in the article, nor has anything official surfaced.

Several professional drag racers had suspended licenses / criminal street racing counts on their records... but they are still allowed to drag race. I know at least 1 Formula D driver was driving for several seasons when his drivers license was suspended in his home state. For the most part, what happens away from the track stays away from the track.

As I mentioned earlier, Nick is no longer driving the Viper, he has built his own 350z with his own money (not mom and dad's money), and he was very successful in the one event he drove that car in (which is the most recent event he drove in, NOPI Pittsburgh in July of last year).

It sounds like there's some jelousy happening, and Nick Hogan is just the outlet for venting.

Are there better drivers? I'm sure there are. Are there opportunities for those drivers to earn their professional licenses and compete ALONGSIDE Nick Hogan? yes, there are. Sure, Nick was given an opportunity to drive a Viper which not many people are given. BUT... that offer has been extended to other drivers (Pat Mordaunt and Chris Cook at the very least). And, as I mentioned, Nick's most recent competition car was built on his own with his own money. His "Fame" may have opened an extra door or two for him, but his skill has gotten him to where he is now.

I promise you that Nick is treated exactly the same as every other driver by those who are involved with the sanctioning bodies. But as it stands, Nick has EARNED his right to hold a professional drifting license with NOPI Drift for the 2008 season, and I have yet to see a valid argument stating otherwise.

[Slappy]

Wow , what a Nick Hogan supporter you are. I dont care where he placed , i dont care how his last name got him where he is , i dont care that NOPI uses him to draw attention , the bottom line is , Nick Hogan is not in it for the right reasons , and if you were any type of "real" drifter , you would see that.

he has built his own 350z with his own money (not mom and dad's money),

[jacobphoto]

Wow , what a Nick Hogan supporter you are. I dont care where he placed , i dont care how his last name got him where he is , i dont care that NOPI uses him to draw attention , the bottom line is , Nick Hogan is not in it for the right reasons , and if you were any type of "real" drifter , you would see that.

Seems to me that he's engaging in an activity which he enjoys to have fun and possibly, long term, make a career out of it. Aren't those the reasons that everyone gets into drifting?

[AZhitman]

1) Several other drivers in the NOPI series (and Formula D) hit walls during the season, but they are still allowed to compete. Why? because unfortunately, hitting walls is a part of the sport.

2) Nick has been CHARGED with wreckless driving (and a few other minor counts including illegal window tint). He hasn't been CONVICTED of anything, and none of the charges include "participation in a speed contest" or "street race" or anything similar.

3) the MAJORITY of motorsport (and sport in general) sanctioning bodies do not hold their athletes / members accountable for their actions outside of the league.

4) he has built his own 350z with his own money (not mom and dad's money)

5) I promise you that Nick is treated exactly the same as every other driver by those who are involved with the sanctioning bodies.

1) NO one's arguing about his hitting walls in competition (unless they're pointing out his lack of skill). Divide his # of events by the # of cars damaged, and he's one of the highest.

2) And he'll continue to postpone and drag it out because he has $$$ attorneys.

3) Wrong. In fact, there's a certain NASCAR driver who screwed the pooch right here in Phoenix. Cost him a bloody fortune in endorsements and lost points.

4) Using money he earned delivering pizzas?

5) Nope. He fills the seats, and drifting is in BAD shape right now, so they need his retarded antics. Look at the implosion of the other big sanctioning body and the decreased attendance in major markets. Hell, even NOPI will tell you that.

[mestizo]

Thanks Greg, you said exactly what I was trying to convey.

As for people hitting the wall and having their pro license's revoked... you know that wasn't what I meant at all.

Again I don't care about his podium or points standing. All that I know is someone is in a coma because of what he did, that is reason enough for me to say he shouldn't be let back in. But what do I know, i don't have money or fame so what I think doesn't count in the real world.

His skill level is still not on par, but that is my opinion and I am entitled to it. I would like to see how he does in D1, MSC or Formula D. LOL I wonder what he would do against any other Australian or N.Z. drifters... then we will see how much he has "improved" in the last two years.

The other thing about this that strikes me as odd, is you didnt join until the day you made your first post. Almost as if you only did it to do one thing???