New World Order, Who's ready?

[breadbox]

*This may be a rant*not sure yet*

I have been listening to the Alex Jones Show intermittently for a couple weeks now, how come I never hear this crap anywhere else?

Infowars has some interesting articles with real sources. I am scared of the future and increasingly more afraid of/angered at local law enforcement.

I never really wanted a gun until like an hour ago. I realized how much every American is slowly growing into selfish and scared individuals who will do anything to happy good times back, but do not stop to consider how much they are giving themselves up to be taken advantage of. Last week I would tell you I hope they never create working Artificial Intelligence, now I am more concerned about the North American Union and how much that is gonna eat the big one.

I never thought I would have to concern myself with Globalization until Kennedy got knighted, which apparently is by US law illegal.

From Article I Section 9:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

No one cares, America claps for him. Our elected officials seem to be above the laws.

Chuck Norris is about ready to lead a patriot revolution against The New World Order, and you know what they say about Chuck Norris. States are fighting for the rights given them by the constitution, problem seems to be the way the country has been run for the last 50 years, particularly the last 10 years where Government mandates something and then the funding determines the best coarse of action and not the best coarse of action determining the funding.

[themadscientist]

They ain't chippin me, I'm ready to go Guy Fawkes on some people.

[breadbox]

Right on. I am ready for something crazy to happen and then I am just gonna say I told you so and then go road warrior.

To go Road Warrior is to gather as much currency together and start living out of the car on the road to where ever you feel called.

[datsun2401972]

Funny, I received an email with this link in it yesterday: http://www.survivalseedbank.com/

And now I read this thread...

And no I'm not ready, not near enough guns...

[Cold_Zero]

breadbox, I think you may need to switch radio programs and listen to something a bit more productive. Michael Savage would be my suggestion.

[Armelius]

I don't buy into the Alex Jones crap. Sometimes he might have a point or there is some truth there but most of the time I wouldn't even bother.

[HashiriyaS14]

From Article I Section 9:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

Do you know that he didn't get congressional approval? I don't think that would be a very big deal, I'm sure members of The House and The Senate have been knighted before.

And then there's this:

http://www.boston.com/news/pol....html

Who cares, anyway? It's a silly honorary title.

[breadbox]

Did you read that? It proves nothing and seems not to mention why it is legal.

[telcoman]

breadbox, I think you may need to switch radio programs and listen to something a bit more productive. Michael Savage would be my suggestion.

Hardball with Chris Matthews

[themadscientist]

don't get your information from just one source. Both the left and right are full of s***, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Without knowing your lateral limits it could be difficult to find.

[DJ Raijin]

breadbox, I think you may need to switch radio programs and listen to something a bit more productive. Michael Savage would be my suggestion.

Dr. Savage is a fine source for information. I used to listen to his show every night when I worked as a convenience store clerk. While most my age (19 to 20 at the time) would have had the local rap or rock station on, I was rocking out the talk radio with Michael Savage. I admire him, but sometimes, when he's going off on his tangents about his Toy Poodle...eh....I lose a little respect.

back on the topic at hand:I've been looking into a local militia and apparently the Pennsylvania laws do not prohibit a standing private militia from being formed and have been highly considering this route as a Gun Club by day and Militia by time of need. I'm waiting for the revolution to come about. I know it's there. Hell, the old war vets I've met and talked to at length with, people that fought for this nation and lost their best friends to unmarked graves in foreign lands for this nation, have even told me some disturbing trends they're noticing.

"In my day, the thought of fighting for your freedom involved military service and killing some foreigner on his homeland in order to secure liberty in your own. The thought of rising against the government to remain free was a cockamamie idea and you would be locked away in a padded cell for that. But with the way things are going nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if you will have to fight to take the U.S. back sometime in your lifetime."

I'm talking about level headed gentlemen. Realists. Simple people who enjoy the simple act of living and being. My dad taught me to be shoot straight and speak the truth from little up and he always told me that a day would come in the near future where there would be an armed uprising in this nation, and it would be to take the country back. I always wrote him off as crazy. Because quite literally, my dad was not very mentally stable. There's medical documentation to prove it.

But as I see things progress, I see it grow more and more true. I might have to go into the woods with an axe and a chainsaw and a hammer and start constructing my fortress of solitude.

[breadbox]

I was at a party talking to people but not pressing the issue of what happens if a rebellion happens? I think a few more people are wising up and realizing. I myself don't own any firearms but am considering it a future necessity.

[audtatious]

Anyone who does not support global liberalism needs to GTFO of our country. Their was is the only way, just ask them.

[breadbox]

Is no one honestly doing anything toward stocking up for a revolution/survival?

Plant a victory garden after the frost date.

What is this one world bank everyone is pushing for? What happens to us?

[breadbox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Crap.

[HashiriyaS14]

Is no one honestly doing anything toward stocking up for a revolution/survival?

Plant a victory garden after the frost date.

What is this one world bank everyone is pushing for? What happens to us?

WTF are you talking about?

On second though...go for it. Go buy six tons of MRE's and some guns and hole up in a cave. I hope a bear eats you.

[telcoman]

WTF are you talking about?

On second though...go for it. Go buy six tons of MRE's and some guns and hole up in a cave. I hope a bear eats you.

+1

That is what happens to people that spend too much time listening to right wing talk radio

[HashiriyaS14]

+1

That is what happens to people that spend too much time listening to right wing talk radio

And you're what happens when someone spends too much time reading DailyKOS.

[telcoman]

And you're what happens when someone spends too much time reading DailyKOS.

Thanks for the reminder. I was so busy today, I forget to check it.

http://www.dailykos.com/

[DJ Raijin]

WTF are you talking about?

On second though...go for it. Go buy six tons of MRE's and some guns and hole up in a cave. I hope a bear eats you.

actually learning to grow your own vegetables and can them is a good practice. it saves money and gives you a year's supply of fresh veggies that are absolutely delicious. Country folk back in my area are always canning their own veggies.

You can can meat too. You pressure cook it in it's own juices with a little flour and it makes it's own gravy. Just open the jar, heat it up a bit and you're ready to go.

As for caves....meh. If you can get some rebar, you could build a cabin pretty easily. Cut down some tall trees and notch them (lincoln log style). drill holes in the notches and use the rebar to reinforce them, smothering the joints in pitch to seal them up. It's up to you to decide how to make a floor.

[datsun2401972]

Abe Lincoln didn't need no floor!

[datsun2401972]

Anyone who does not support global liberalism needs to GTFO of our country. Their was is the only way, just ask them.

Yah, and I've got a different way of doing things *pump action*

When all the s*** hits the fan you can blow the smoke up their a** and send em my way, I'll take care of the rest

[HashiriyaS14]

actually learning to grow your own vegetables and can them is a good practice. it saves money and gives you a year's supply of fresh veggies that are absolutely delicious. Country folk back in my area are always canning their own veggies.

You can can meat too. You pressure cook it in it's own juices with a little flour and it makes it's own gravy. Just open the jar, heat it up a bit and you're ready to go.

As for caves....meh. If you can get some rebar, you could build a cabin pretty easily. Cut down some tall trees and notch them (lincoln log style). drill holes in the notches and use the rebar to reinforce them, smothering the joints in pitch to seal them up. It's up to you to decide how to make a floor.

Oh, I completely agree with all of this. It's good to know how to do LOTS of things for yourself. Hell, I catch and smoke my own fish sometimes, then vacuum-seal it and freeze it. Lasts me all year.

But I do it because smoked trout is farking delicious, not because I think the government is going to be invading my neighborhood.

I dislike paranoid people. There is a very definite line between a healthy sense of self-preservation and unfounded paranoia. "The Government" is not an evil organization, it's just a group made up of citizens. I'm sure there are some nefarious individuals in it, but there are plenty of nefarious individuals in private enterprise too. The idea that the entire US government is somehow acting in unison to subjugate the population, despite being made up of millions of individual minds, is preposterous.

[breadbox]

Whatever I will prepare myself and friends and family for the worst and hopefully get the best.

[HashiriyaS14]

Whatever I will prepare myself and friends and family for the worst

I don't think it can get much worse than this thread.

I've seen the apocalypse, and it's number is 409870.

[themadscientist]

Nala would be one of the four horsemen then, war, pestilence, famine, and retard.

[Kalypso]

Alex Jones is on point... The federal reserve is a machine, they just loant 1.2 trillion of freshly printed money to the Gov.

they own us.

gun rights are not so that we can protect ourselves from rabid hillbillies and house invaders...

its to protect us from our goverment.

and im from nyc... so just imagine... this sh*t is real.

[HashiriyaS14]

gun rights are not so that we can protect ourselves from rabid hillbillies and house invaders...

its to protect us from our goverment.

Your government has Abrams tanks and B2's. If your government wanted to kill you, your AR-15 (or whatever) wouldn't be any sort of deterrent.

When this country was founded, before the mechanization of warfare, an armed population DID deter the government from becoming tyrannical. This is because there was a parity of capabilities between the military and the citizenry. The military had guys with rifles and so did the citizenry.

In the modern era, this is plainly not the case. No arms possessed by the citizenry in this day and age would provide any sort of defense against modern US military forces.

[Kalypso]

an army of 200,000 us troops cant deter a nation of 290,000,000 people.

[HashiriyaS14]

an army of 200,000 us troops cant deter a nation of 290,000,000 people.

Why do people who use this argument always envision some kind of house-to-house conflict?

If the US government decided to start killing off US civilians en masse, they aren't going to send troops in APC's to do it. This is the 21st century, they're just going to bomb you into atoms.

We have a citizen military, the scenario of an actual armed OCCUPATION of the United States by infantry would never happen. People won't follow those orders, there are too many checks and balances, and information travels too swiftly.

The only situation that is remotely practical is the "few crazy people with fingers on buttons" situation. In that situation, no amount of small arms will save you, as you would likely just be incinerated by remote-deployed conventional or nuclear arms. The only feasible scenario is one wherein the Government is trying to exterminate everyone, not control them.

I cannot STAND this argument.