New Wheel fitment

[Kalypso]

Why are we all the sudden haters just because we don't like stretched tires.Trust me, if I wanted that, I would have it!

Thats not to you toby, and many people pull of great wheel fitment without stretching ( low sidewall aspect ratio's f.e. )

I understand the purpose behind stretching tires but that is just retarted.

but stretched tires aren't retarded... they look dope, its not exactly 'safe' or good for 'tire wear' but driving an exciting car is what life's about.

join the fun

Nahh. I just drive my car so bieng that low is not functional or possible with the places I have to drive. I mean I could slam my car so that the wheel lips kiss the fender but I would wind up losing my exhaust somewhere in the process.

Could happen... but with 18's you can moderate between driveways and driving with style.

Nice looking cars make the world a better place to live in. Hellaflush FTW

[SmithSR]

but stretched tires aren't retarded... they look dope, its not exactly 'safe' or good for 'tire wear' but driving an exciting car is what life's about.

join the fun

NOT retarded is 'looks dope, not exactly safe or good for tire wear'

What IS retarded then? Decent driving and longevity? Christ.



The fitment on the G looks terrible.

[ddgsxr504]

NOT retarded is 'looks dope, not exactly safe or good for tire wear'

What IS retarded then? Decent driving and longevity? Christ.



The fitment on the G looks terrible.

Thank you, someone with a brain..... stretched tires look good (depending on the extreme of the amount of stretch) and do serve somewhat of a function for clearance issues but there is a point when it is way over done for that AWESOME LOOK AT ME JDM TYTE FITMENT.

The car becomes too low, the suspension geometry is so far out of wack that tire wear occurs 200% faster than normal. Braking, gas milage, and overall wear on the suspension itself not to mention the underside of th car become serious hazards. Ive seen a guy get his downpipe ripped off the car in the process of maintaining this "tucked" look.

[Kalypso]

- tire wear is not an issue if the person doing it, has no trouble affording more tires. its not your money.

- stretched tires are perfectly safe... many daily driven cars do it year round.

neither of you have built attention grabbing cars, that can surpass the standards of hellaflush, fatlace and risky devils.

you both basically haters.

The fitment on the G looks terrible.

you couldnt convince 5 out of 10 people to agree with that.

that G is smoking.

... stretched tires look good (depending on the extreme of the amount of stretch) and do serve somewhat of a function for clearance issues

well said, you're work is done.

( to anyone else reading pardon the broken links, my pb is maxed )

[ddgsxr504]

neither of you have built attention grabbing cars, that can surpass the standards of hellaflush, fatlace and risky devils.

you both basically haters.

1. My car grabs lots of attention as is, I know this because all the heads turned at me when I drive my car isn't focused on me cuz I'm not that hot looking.

2. Not wanting to build an attention getting car does not a hater make.

I don't have a craving for man sausage, I guess that makes me a **** hater???

I like not have an "attention grabbing car" that just means the thieves will keep on walking.

[Kalypso]

its the internet ... who cares

[Broadfield]

I personally think this wheel fitment is sick as hell.... I mean who doesn't want the biggest lip possible!?! However, I also think the tire fitment is ignorant! ....and unfortunately that wheel fitment could not of been achieved without ignorant tire fitment... oh and just stupid amounts of camber. So for me personally, I will never stretch tires to achieve good fitment. To me fitment is a combination of the wheel AND tire. A 225 tire on a 10" wide wheel doesn't "fit". It's like seeing a 6'2" guy walk around with 30" inseam jeans.... it looks F'n stupid

[ddgsxr504]

its the internet ... who cares

I guess you do? You are the one calling everybody a hater.

[simmode1]

1. My car grabs lots of attention as is, I know this because all the heads turned at me when I drive my car isn't focused on me cuz I'm not that hot looking.

2. Not wanting to build an attention getting car does not a hater make.

I don't have a craving for man sausage, I guess that makes me a **** hater???

I like not have an "attention grabbing car" that just means the thieves will keep on walking.

Your car is one of my favorite Zenki's around. Why? Because it's clean and tasteful.

The risky Devil / HellaFush cats only my attention because of their sensational nature... sensation much like a circus sideshow. Their styling is cool and interesting, but immature IMO. MNy prevailing thought everytime I see one of their cars is "Yeeeeah but... Why would you do that? "

To me fitment is a combination of the wheel AND tire. A 225 tire on a 10" wide wheel doesn't "fit".

I totally agree. In fact.... Sigged!

Yeah, I think this needs to be lower, but this is very close to my ideal of good fitment...http://www.rimtuck.com/setup.php?id=235 ... php?id=310

There's nothing wrong with a subtle tire stretch in and of itself, to me... But some of the extreme stretches I see (like the Z above) are just plain inane, IMO.
Modified by simmode1 at 8:45 AM 9/10/2009

[Gabes13]

cliffsnotes:

-Guy wants fitment.-People argue about fitment.-Pointless opinions are thrown.-END>Potential thread lock

Conclusion:

-Low offset + wide + tiny tires /= fitment-Big wheels + bigger tires + mod ride height /= fitment?

[Kalypso]

I understand the purpose behind stretching tires but that is just retarted.

I can understand if you think that stretching tires.. too much is unecessary, but accusing all tire stretching of being retarded, is simply juvenile.

opinions aren't what really matters, its respect and recognition.and If a car isnt getting it, then you know something is off.

a few mm's here or there can ruin it.







its not easy, but you certainly can't judge people that are doing it better then all of us... and getting the media coverage and industry wide respect to prove it.

that type of language is immature, especially when no one in this thread, has reached a level where they are setting trends or inspiring people to emulate them.

include myself.

[Gabes13]

golf claps for kalypso

[Kalypso]

golf claps for kalypso

Thank you P

^^^^ perfect wheel fitment.

and thank you white



I'm just trying to be sensible,lets give respect where respect is due.

[simmode1]

its not easy, but you certainly can't judge people that are doing it better then all of us... and getting the media coverage and industry wide respect to prove it.

that type of language is immature, especially when no one in this thread, has reached a level where they are setting trends or inspiring people to emulate them.

Ummm... I'm gonna go ahead and call Toby an industry wide trendsetter. Comparing the two schools of fitment ideals, my views are most closely related to his.

I think it's fine to recognize that there are 2 main philosophies concerning fitment. We should just stay in our respective camps and not try to argue which is best. They both serve their purposes, I suppose.

[Kalypso]

I think it's fine to recognize that there are 2 main philosophies concerning fitment. We should just stay in our respective camps and not try to argue which is best. They both serve their purposes, I suppose.

I respect that completely.

the main reason people started stretching was they didn't want the sidewall to bend or the tire to push or pull from the bead of the rim. it became a fashion trend later.

Sidewall rigidity keeps the tire spinning and rotating along the centerline of the wheel.

admittedly, aspect ratio's less then 30% as you go above widths of 235mm and 240mm dont exist.

thats the real problem.

if someone made tires at 255/15 for 18" wheels... the drifting community would eat those up, because you get to keep a larger contact patch! I see lambo's and de'tomasso pantera's with tires like that, but they're a luxury item.

then there would be no need to stretch, and it wouldnt look that different when the wheels are mounted, it might look even better.

[Kalypso]

Sim you and I have been boys for a minute, and I've had nothing but great things to say about Toby's car since the first time I saw it.

I like to joke around sometimes, but in reality I like to explore every perspective.

gentlemen... its been real

[simmode1]

Yeah, I think conversations like this are necessary. That way, when noobs go searching for info, they can see knowledgeable viewpoints presenting different ideas. I know that stuff like that helps me learn the "why's" and "Why nots" of a particular topic more easily... But I try to keep things cool before they devolve into petty bickering...

[ddgsxr504]

I can understand if you think that stretching tires.. too much is unecessary, but accusing all tire stretching of being retarded, is simply juvenile.

I never said that ALL tire stretching is retarded, please don't take my comment out of context as it was only applying to that particular picture.

My tires are stretched (235's on a 9" & 255's on a 10") and there are many cars running that same setup on rimtuck but not to the excess of some of the car pics that have been posted.

I completely understand why it's done and agree with it but then there are people who go way off and to the left with the concept.