new option for tuning

[uncle_louie83]

i want one....i literally was going to save for an AEM EMS system so i can go higher than 300hp with the safc....but now i see this...im going to get the emanage ultimate instead...i wanna know how big of injectors we can use before things get crazy...

lewis
Modified by uncle_louie83 at 4:48 PM 7/1/2005

[spider_slayer]

w3rd. i was gonna go the rom tune and emanage route.......but this rocks!! if someone could get a group buy together i would be down in an instant.

+1 for a group buy

[virus77]

Which leaves us to our own abilities to troubleshoot. I can use a multimeter and whatnot, but wiring is not my strong suit.

WD

Dony worry man, just send me a message and i will be your customer support. I was running 565cc with my regular emanage so I can imaging with fuel trimming based on injectors and not mafs signal it will be able to control a pretty large injector. I think Im going to purchase it pretty soon. I already have most of the harness soldered into my ecu so its almost plug and play for me.

[fiznat]

Guys, dont get the idea that this emanage will "tune itself." There is a HUGE difference between an actual tune on a car, and the "air/fuel targeting" that this unit will do. The targeting is nice to use as a saftey feature, or to get a car running when there is nothing else, but PLEASE relise that this is not a substitute for actual testing on the dyno. Not only are the target ratios fairly inaccurate (large margin of error when doing this, even with the AEM which has the same feature), but you are forgetting about tuning the engine timing, which is where the REAL work is in tuning an engine.

Just so you know. This unit looks absolutely awesome, no doubt about it, but I just want to make sure nobody gets the idea that you can plug it in, set your injectors, and have the thing "tune itself."

Now somebody buy it!

[Florida240sx]

You mean if I turn my boost up to 42lbs the ultimate won't reduce my timming so I don't blow up? Waiting for Marty to ge this unis in and might grab it.OR I could do my vg swap/vert sc keg......

[virus77]

Guys, dont get the idea that this emanage will "tune itself." There is a HUGE difference between an actual tune on a car, and the "air/fuel targeting" that this unit will do. The targeting is nice to use as a saftey feature, or to get a car running when there is nothing else, but PLEASE relise that this is not a substitute for actual testing on the dyno. Not only are the target ratios fairly inaccurate (large margin of error when doing this, even with the AEM which has the same feature), but you are forgetting about tuning the engine timing, which is where the REAL work is in tuning an engine.

Just so you know. This unit looks absolutely awesome, no doubt about it, but I just want to make sure nobody gets the idea that you can plug it in, set your injectors, and have the thing "tune itself."

Now somebody buy it!

I absolutyly agree with you, but it will get you close on the fuel maps and then its up to you to fine tune, or maybe the program is ungodly and it does a damn good job but I dont see that happening. also it says it will be able to have timing dataloging capabilities so based on the readout we can make timing maps that would damn close to ones used on a standalone. I wish I still had my KAT when this was around, I guess my SR will have to do.

[WDRacing]

With a wide band it's wicked easy anyway...

[nismofan14]

I am thinking of buying this but do you guys think that it is an overkill for my goals? I am looking to reach around 275 to 300 hp using 480cc injectors controlled by safc2 and the old school apexi ITC. This is around 9-10 psi from a t3/t04. I figured the timing isn't going to require that much adjustment and the ITC should be able to correct that and the effects of the safc. I will prolly ditch this set up down the road anyhow and go with the emanage.

[superDorifto]

Now THAT is pretty cool! I was going to go with the emanage myself, but I never really liked the "airflow adjustment" methods it used. This is a big step in the right direction I think, and for $535, I think its pretty damn competetive with the other options that you can consider in this price range. Awesome! Who's gonna try it first?

foster i think im gonna give it a try...im down for a group buy

[fiznat]

Yeah will I think this could be really sweet... I'll call up marty if you guys want and see if he'd be willing to put something together. How many people are we talking about here?

[virus77]

im down if the price is right for sure. I already have my SR running 565cc injectors on the regular emanage but i could switch it up.

[themadscientist]

And me with two Haltechs, I just can't get a break! That does look very cool though.

[Gavster]

This really does look awsesome for a piggyback! Are we certain we can get rid of teh MAFS? By reading the feature sheet, I would assume yes, but I wanted to clarify. Also, what do we thing the largest size injector the sohc ka could use with this?

[Florida240sx]

I already talked to Marty and his price fro us is about $20 cheaper than that guy and we get free shipping. If anything maybe every 10 people he might be able to give us an extra $5 off.I'm sure He'll be in here soon.Maybe get him to make a thread and everyoen that wants one post and when you can buy it.

[alta steve]

e-manage ultimate is awesome. i have a blue still but a friend of mine has one.. its probably one of the best piggybacks out..

[C-Kwik]

I was pretty happy with the original E-Manage when I had my S14. All I did was use the injector conversion feature and some very minor timing changes and it ran great. It even prevented my EGR error code from tripping(probably as the ECU precived a lower airflow and didn't try to utilize the EGR when it was supposed to).

The new E-Manage sounds great. Might be useful in some of their turbo kits where timing issues were a problem. Not sure if they had ever resolved it, but I know they were not able to alter the timing maps on the 350Z. In these cases it provides them a bit more room for error and tuning as they will be working with the base timing map rather than an altered one. And if at least all the previous functionality remains, then upgrading injectors will be a breeze and tuning can end up being fairly simple. Sounds like an even better cost effective solution than the original E-Manage.