new item for tuning BullyDog

Post by **unknow** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:54 pm

OK here is my review,

When I applied the tune I noticed higher power in low rpm however I really wasn't sure and I didn't notice much difference after 50 MPH while flooring it.

Anyway here is my 1/4 and 0-60 MPH results. The results is really amazed me!

Here is the first result The car was completely stock no mods at all.

Here is the result after applying GT tune [Premium Tune, 6800 RPM (Doesn't really work on CVT but I change it anyway stock was 6350 RPM), 151 MH top speed (stock was 146 MPH), +4 Advanced timing(stock was 0)] Other than that the car is completely stock.

So what you think guys : )?

Post by **crayzitalian3** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:50 pm

thats awesome unknow, is it safe to advanced the timing by that much though?

you really got the 0-60 a lot lower than i would have suspected.

did the car feel fine after putting the timing at +4?

Post by **grv575** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:41 pm

Throckmorton wrote:I found out that to cover Altima model years 2007, 2008, and 2009 both the 2.5 and the 3.5, there are a total of 11 different Electronic Control Modules

So, in order for a company to claim that their product works on Nissan Altima 2007, 2008, and 2009 model years, they would need to make sure it works by testing it on 11 different Altimas

For all I know, it might be Bully Dog policy to have the customer update the tuner by contacting them.

For all I know, it's not that simple:

http://www.bullydog.com/produc...enter

Power Pup Gas Nissan 05-09Version 1.2.3c- 4.0L applications have WOT option- Updated menus- Timing / Idle adjustment issues addressed on certain models- Added part numbers:1.6L - 8W90A 8W90B 8W92B1.8L - 1FJ5A 8W87B EL17A ZW44A2.0L - ZJ73A ZJ73B ZJ75B ZT91A2.5L - JB01C ZN66A ZP03A ZP62A 9J51C ZD89A JA91C JA03A ZD85E ZP61A JA05E JB15B JA04E 3.5L - AC705 AC810 ZK01B JB11D JA14B ZK01D ZB065 7Y200 CM40C JA16B ZB075 ZN30A CF40D 9J460 ZH94A ZN55B JA16A CF010 CF48D CM41B ZK01C CM30B AC406 1AL3A CM31B3.5HR - JK68A JK67B JK61A EV12A EY81A JK60D JK64A 1NA9A EV10A JK61D EV52B JK60C JK69A 1NA0A 1NA9B 1NB1A EV51A JK64C JK65A EV51B JK64B JK69D4.0L - EA67A ZP52A EA62B ZP13A ZL12A ZL30A ZL32A ZP35A5.6L - ZH43A ZQ12B ZT09C ZQ13D ZR04B ZC015 ZW12B ZE42A ZQ13C ZT28C ZT26C ZC05A ZH43B ZR22B ZR28B ZR04D ZR21B ZT08E ZT20B ZT20D ZW23D ZE07B ZT09E ZJ05A

Post by **grv575** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:48 pm

unknow wrote:OK here is my review,

When I applied the tune I noticed higher power in low rpm however I really wasn't sure and I didn't notice much difference after 50 MPH while flooring it.

What's your software version? 1.3 or 1.4? I've run both versions for long periods of time and it feels like 1.3 fuel map was tuned for 0-30 (torque) and 1.4 fuel map was tuned for 40-100 (hp).

1.3: jumps as soon as you apply the slightest throttle, less responsive than I would like after 40mph when you floor it though1.4: not quite as much kick as 1.3 from a dead stop, you have to push the pedal down a tiny more to get the same response, but this tune owns on the highway...

overall much more satisfied with 1.4. didn't try 1.4a. Hope it's not all in my head

Post by **dldjros69** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:51 am

grv575 wrote:
1.3 fuel map was tuned for 0-30 (torque) and 1.4 fuel map was tuned for 40-100 (hp).

Hope it's not all in my head

I hope its all in your head and everything is the same, i dont wanna have to go and try it out to see the difference

Post by **Throckmorton** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:53 am

Zerep wrote:yeah so what your saying is only 4 ecu'ssince you like researching so much why has there been more then 4 ecu codes just asking your tone is very agressive calm the down by the looks of it they got it to work on most 2.5 and 3.5while working on the ones that dont work

I will try to passively answer your questions. No agression here.

“yeah so what your saying is only 4 ecru’s”

Yes, I’m not just pulling numbers out of thin air, and I'm not the only one saying it, Nissan North America says it, and they back up their claim by listing the parts and part numbers in the official NNA dealer parts book.

Don’t take my word for it, look it up for your self..

http://www.courtesyparts.com/

“since you like researching so much why has there been more then 4 ecu codes just asking ..” Your question is ambiguous, are you asking why the owners of Altimas are reading / receiving 4 or more error codes while installing the Bully Dog tuner?

If that is what you are asking, the answer is obvious to me.

I think one of two events occurred One, Bully Dog did not test all 11 combinations of ECM’s before releasing the product for sale. Or two, they did test but could not get their product to work properly with all 11 combinations In my opinion, they are using customers as their unpaid Research and Development department. Bully Dog has to know by now that their customers, who spent between $300.00 to $400.00 to purchase the tuner, are having problems getting the product to work as advertised.

I have a suggestion, why don’t you either call Bully Dog, 866-285-5936, 8am-5pm, MST, Monday thru Friday, or log on to their website,

http://www.bullydog.com/

and take advantage of their chat with a tech online feature. Ask the manufacture why “has there been more then 4 ecu codes just asking ..”

I would like to see their answer to that question. Let us know if they provide an answer to your question.

You are correct, many Altima owners have installed the tuner with very good results. Not everyone has had problems installing the tuner, and there are quite a few happy customers.

You are also correct, I don’t mind researching and finding out the correct answer. I would much rather be correct with the answer I give, than to just make a wild guess and pick a number between 28 and 32.

I am still curious. Where did you come up with your number “30” ?

"Knowledge is a possession of which man cannot be robbed, everything else needs to be padlocked and bolted down."

Post by **unknow** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:18 am

@crayzitalian3 : I don't know if it safe to advanced the timing by that much, But the car was fine no problem and I haven't notice anything weird, The engine was a little noisy though.

@grv575: I'm running 11.04a, Both 11.03 and 11.04 Doesn't work on my car : >

Post by **LinkNuc** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:49 am

Yeah like I had explained in a previous post about adjusting timing, +2 is is the thumb rule for safe, I have to think your gonna start knocking(pinging) at +4, but hey I haven't done it so its a guess.

Post by **mattybo** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:18 pm

well I should have my bully dog soon and I will definitely let you guys know how things go. If it can monitor our 0-60 and 1/4 mile times then I will simply do as someone previously did and do a run on the stock mode and then a run on the premium mode (I use 93 oct. from shell).

Hopefully there will be a noticeable difference.

I will keep everyone updated!

Post by **unknow** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:40 am

hi, After some testing I found that advancing the timing by 4 isn't really any better it may slightly better in 0-60 MPH but after that it will be worse than even stock! +2 is the way to go I will post my 0-200 KM (125 MPH) tests later.

Btw I'm running 95 oct and before anyone saying why the hell are using 95 oct on 2.5, Cuz we have only two gas rating 91 and 95. and the 95 is cheap enough probably cheaper on what you paying for 87 oct :P

Post by **dldjros69** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:50 pm

Ha run what ya what, thats how it works

We only have 93 here and the shell has a 94.

What the heck is Location - AltiCity none Outside U.S?

Where ya from?

Post by **unknow** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:58 pm

I live Bahrain an Arabic island country in the Persian Gulf << I don't think you have heard of it

Btw how much are you paying for the gas 91?

Post by **Sentientbydesign** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:20 pm

The octane in Bahrain is probably no the same as the R+M/2 octane rating that we use in the US. I believe the R+M/2 is called the AKI (Anti-Knock Index) which is just an average of the RON and MON ratings for the fuel. One of the two is usually higher than the other, and I believe quite a few other countries use the higher rating instead of the average.

Post by **unknow** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:34 pm

It could be but I still believe that Arabic or Persian Gulf countries have higher rating oct than other countries, Cuz those countries have a lot of oil they exports oil to other countries, So it make sense if we have cheap and high oct gas : >

I think in UAE or qatar they have up to 98 oct. but it could as you said may have different rating.

Post by **dldjros69** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:09 pm

unknow wrote:I live Bahrain an Arabic island country in the Persian Gulf << I don't think you have heard of it

Btw how much are you paying for the gas 91?

i know i suck - stupid american lol

87 1.55 89 1.6593 1.75

gallon

Post by **unknow** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:27 pm

we pay

91 - $0.8095 - $1.00

per gallon

: >

Post by **XXplosive990** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:49 pm

WTF!!! lol you guys are both lucky, in Southern California i pay...

87: 2.91 !!! not a typo 89: 3.01 ...thats DOLLARS 93: 3.11 ...+ your soul

Post by **LinkNuc** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:08 am

When did you post that, after a fifth of Jager? try 2.55 / 2.65 / 2.75 In PA! No where in our country is gas under 2 bucks as of 8/26/09 0751 EST

http://www.gasbuddy.com

Post by **dldjros69** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:30 am

LinkNuc wrote:When did you post that, after a fifth of Jager? try 2.55 / 2.65 / 2.75 In PA! No where in our country is gas under 2 bucks as of 8/26/09 0751 EST

http://www.gasbuddy.com

OMG thank you

yeah link is rite, yum jager

naa i was sober, just stupid

Post by **LinkNuc** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:18 am

Lol, i was gonna say, I would be driving cross state to drain a WaWa if it was that cheap!

Post by **Dexion** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:02 pm

Tuner came in the mail today, yay!Update Agent doesn't recognize my tuner, booooo.

Post by **mcheddadi** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:31 pm

Dexion wrote:Tuner came in the mail today, yay!Update Agent doesn't recognize my tuner, booooo.

you need to download the file on the site and put it on the sdcard.thats how I did it.plug the tuner in the pc and it should act as a sdmicro card reader.download this filehttp://www.bullydog.com/extern...n.zipopen it and extract the PMTidf.bin file to the sdmicro card. now your tuner should be recognized by the update agent

Post by **Importroller** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:36 pm

those of you with a manual 3.5, Is this thing really worth the 300+ price tag if you are into performance? Be very honest, if it aint, i'm holding out for a REAL ECU tune

Post by **Dexion** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:49 am

mcheddadi wrote:
you need to download the file on the site and put it on the sdcard.thats how I did it.plug the tuner in the pc and it should act as a sdmicro card reader.download this filehttp://www.bullydog.com/extern...n.zipopen it and extract the PMTidf.bin file to the sdmicro card. now your tuner should be recognized by the update agent

Yup did that, but now I am having the same problem as you, error 440 new part number.Guess us 3.5SE + 6MT combo are outta luck, if they do not hurry and fix this soon I am going to return mine. I did not pay $300 for a monitor.

Post by **mcheddadi** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:39 am

Dexion wrote:
Yup did that, but now I am having the same problem as you, error 440 new part number.Guess us 3.5SE + 6MT combo are outta luck, (for now) [...]

whats your engine part number?I called them and gave them the dump of my ecu so that they could include it in future updates.

Post by **dldjros69** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:43 am

Dexion wrote:if they do not hurry and fix this soon I am going to return mine. I did not pay $300 for a monitor.

Relax Michael its coming, its well worth the wait!!!!

I hope you and mehdi both get it workin soon...

Post by **LinkNuc** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:14 pm

I love this thread, its all Bullyshiat...thanks, for letting me spend my money on worthwhile stuff like bread and milk...lol, seriously though thanks!

Post by **Throckmorton** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:54 pm

LinkNuc wrote:I love this thread, its all Bullyshiat...thanks, for letting me spend my money on worthwhile stuff like bread and milk...lol, seriously though thanks!

Link,

I've about had it with your negative posts. Stop it, or you will be called a Troll.

You know that since you have not modified your car, you are not able to comment on this thread. You have been warned, remember? You should do as I do, and only have words of praise for this inexpensive, works everytime, must have, high performance, go fast accessory.

Don't forget, it is well worth the wait, it is well worth the wait, it is well worth the wait.

However long that might be.....

Post by **Dexion** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:56 pm

mcheddadi wrote:
whats your engine part number?I called them and gave them the dump of my ecu so that they could include it in future updates.

JB110A.bin ?

Post by **mcheddadi** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:14 pm

Dexion wrote:
JB110A.bin ?

You might want to call them then. mine was JB11C

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