New Era vs Old Era Nissan

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Which do you prefer and why?

Compare 1988-1998; 1999-2003 (Ghosn)

Old Era

Styling is awesome
Turbos in Japan, None in US
Losing money in US
Losing money in Japan
High quality parts
NISMO only in Japan
Too many platforms
Cheap RWD Sport Compact car in lineup
Cult Enthusiasts (IE very little mainstream support in US during 1988-1998)

New Era (Ghosn)

Styling sucks
Killed the Skyline!
Killed Nissan Space program
No f*** turbos at all!
In the black in US
In the black in Japan
Platform Sharing saves money
Cheap materials
NISMO coming to US
Competitive Z Car
More Popular. (More current day Altimas, Sentras and Maximas on the road)

Maybe my dates aren't too correct. If there is a specific era before Ghosn tell me. If Ghosn didn't come till X day, tell me. Maybe my info isn't too correct, tell me then...

Post by **BadMojo** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

lessthanjakejohn wrote:(New Era (Ghosn)
Cheap RWD Sport Compact car in lineup

Are you referring to the 350Z here? If so, I'm not sure if you can exactly call it cheap. I suppose the rarely seen (at least by me) base model is fairly cheap, but you're still looking at something approaching $30K.

Anyway, I suppose I prefer the Nissan that isn't on the verge of financial disaster, so...New Era for me.

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

oops, i was in a rush. I meant to delete that!

Post by **[Zero-S]** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Nissan Space Program? Enlighten me.

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

I'm not sure really, but it was probaly just aero engineering.

Post by **Mr1der** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

maybe they were talking rice rocket to literal...

I liked the old styling way way better, I guess it's good they're in the black now though, maybe they'll sneak in a new RWD car soon...

or maybe even an AWD to take on the rally cars

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

they got an AWD G35 coming to america

Space Program:http://www.jcsslabo.or.jp/dire...e.htm

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Sale of Space Program:http://www.autointell-news.com...3.htm

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Mr1der wrote:maybe they were talking rice rocket to literal...

LOL!!

Post by **Mr1der** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

hmmm, I need to get rid of that L in there...

edit: nah, I'm too lazy, but not lazy enough to add this in here!

Post by **Onizuka** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

lessthanjakejohn wrote:New Era (Ghosn)
Styling sucks
Killed the Skyline!
Killed Nissan Space program
No f*** turbos at all!
In the black in US
In the black in Japan
Platform Sharing saves money
Cheap materials
NISMO coming to US
Competitive Z Car
More Popular. (More current day Altimas, Sentras and Maximas on the road)

-styling is a opinion, some models look ALOT better than they did in the early 90's-they never killed the skyline, the V35 is the skyline/G35sedan-Nissan already uses a VQ30DETT in their racing GT-Rs, and a 3.5 liter version is probably what we will see in the new GTR.-platform sharing makes the cars cheaper for us

Other than that i pretty much agree with you.

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Jspec:

Those bullets are my opinions if not facts, I believe we will not get the TTs in the GTR but rather the 350 V8 retuned and polished for 400 hp. From what I've heard, I'd rather have a VH45DER

I love the early 90's maxima, sentra and 240sx (not sure what the alty looks like)

I am not sure what they would look like today with similar traits. Imagine a SX hatchback?

The Skyline sucks now. R34 VspecII romps on the newer one. Maybe I should say they maimed the skyline. I don't like R34 styling much. The New Skyline (G35) styling is my only preferred new style. Maybe I should say they maimed the skyline.

Post by **SeVa-S13** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Maybe you should say they maimed the skyline...

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

I did?

Post by **Onizuka** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

well i sure do hope its not a V8 and we get what they will in japan.

by 350 do you mean like a chevy 350? why the heck would they put that in there?

Post by **Mr1der** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

twice!

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

LOL!

No I mean the Nissan 350

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Its only 5.6 liters verse chevy's 5.7?

Post by **Mr1der** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

it's not a real 350 then, much like chevy's now, they do that kinda like certain gun calibers will round up or down to have a more impressive name same goes for engines

ex: the .44 magnum's actual bullet diameter is .429, Clint Eastwood would've sounded funny saying .429 magnum wouldn't he?

Post by **89240sx** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

I personally prefer the old era Nissan

Post by **MainEvent212** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

late 80's early 90's styling rocks...

S13 silvia all the way :pface

Post by **KoukiS14** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

late 80s and early to mid 90s was the best. . Nissan isn't the same, at all. . it's lost its identity.

I can appreciate the new stuff for what it is, however. . but it's very very difficult.

Post by **ZenKid_S14** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

definitely old era nissan, i'd take the R33skyline or 240 over a 350Z or G35 any day. happy that nissan's gettin good buys with the new era, but defintely like old era, turbo owns.

Website · Post by **Bandit240** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Are yall forgetting the REAL old era Nissans? Like the 240Z or 2000 Roadster. Nissan should bring in something like the old 2000 Roadsters back. Could yall see a little 2seater Nissan sportster(other then the 350Z). I know i would buy some small,light,nimble and powerfull if i had the cash.

Post by **Mr1der** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

STRAIGHT DATSUN 1600 BOYEEE!

on a side note, I think it's rather funny I can actually fit in one to drive it, little cars...

I felt like Donkey Kong on a go cart in it...

Post by **Jesda** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

To me, old-era Nissan is bland 96 Maximas, bland 96 Sentras, bland trucks, bland everything, no Z cars, and maybe some nice specialty vehicles. Nissan tried too hard to be Toyota, and now its trying to be different and paying off.

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

I got mad props for the old fairlady roadsters, and 240z's. Let us not forget the 510 I mean come on I'd love a little 510. And the s12 was a wicked little car.

Post by **KoukiS14** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Jesda wrote:To me, old-era Nissan is bland 96 Maximas, bland 96 Sentras, bland trucks, bland everything, no Z cars, and maybe some nice specialty vehicles. Nissan tried too hard to be Toyota, and now its trying to be different and paying off.

That's the crappy period between new era and cool era. . it's when Nissan was going under, and began cutting corners and making cheap s*hit. my mom's Altima is a POS. Feels so cheap. . compared with our S12 Stanza? THAT was a nice car.

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Stanza is a good time indeed.

Post by **KoukiS14** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:11 pm

krazy skwerel wrote:Stanza is a good time indeed.

It's the car that sold me on Nissan. . I learned to drive stick on that car. . It was a base XE model. . which meant 5 speed. .

We installed a stereo, and cruise. . so it wasn't bad. . funny thing is. . it was nicer than our GXE Altima. (had nice cloth... pretty much the same as in the S14). .

After 215k miles, the cloth still looked BRAND NEW.

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