New Brakes at 12,000 Miles?

[Jose3.5]

So I take my car in for the 18 month service and then I later get a call that I need to get new brakes also. They want to charge me $300 for the new brakes and bleeding the system and what not. So I start thinking they only have 12,000 miles on them so why do I need new ones for. How many of you have had your brakes replaced already and how many miles were on them?Another thing, how long do they normally last?

[LongBeachCoupe]

12k pads?

I got 18k on mine right now.... i heard squeeking and asked my tech.. he said its normal to some extent n nothin you can do about it... but theres "plenty of meat on em".... idk id have a friend take a look... can you see your pads? hear any squeek of a "warning strip" or have jittery stops?

IN ADDITION... you dont even have a coupe lol... and this doesnt belong in the coupe section! silly!

[Scandinavian Flick]

jose3.5' were your brakes squeaking before you took it in, if they werent, then odds are they are trying to scam you, your pads have "wear indicators" on them its peice of metal on the side that when the pads where down the metal will touch the rotor and squeal so you know you need new pads,

now my ac has 20K on it and it has a lot of pad left, so unless you do a lot of mountain driving and ride your brakes downhill and are a last second "stopper" , odds are you will be fine,

also why are they going to bleed your brakes and all that, unneccessary.

i agree with LBC have a friend check the pads, also check to make compare the left and right side of the car to make sure the pads are wearing even,

you should be able to get a solid 30-40K out of a set of pads,

and finally, if your brakes do squeak but you have alot of brake pad left, pull the caliper off and take some light grain sandpaper and sand on the pads just to remove the outermost layer which is where a "hard" spot could be which would cause squeaking,

[maxentropy]

Brought my coupe into the stealership recently and stated my brakes were sqeaky, so they tell me there is a bulletin for the issue and that they will call me when the parts come in. This was two weeks ago... I should prolly give em a call.

[LongBeachCoupe]

when you do... get all the details!

[Jose3.5]

They said only 20% of the pad is left and I heard squeaking before but it went away after I cleaned them. They bled the system because the brake fluid was low. Isn't there a TSB for premature brake wear?I posted in the coupe section because we all know the sedan section is dead.

[Scandinavian Flick]

tell em to fill er up with dot4 brake fluid

[LongBeachCoupe]

lol it doesnt belong in the sedan section either! "suspension, BRAKES, rims and tires" baby!

Where we all come to hear about these issues!

IDK i find it hard to believe u burnt the pads that quick.. .if it is legit, you drive weird, or theres a mechanical issue with parts/wear.

[Jose3.5]

I guess I'm going have to raise hell when I go pick up my car.

[LongBeachCoupe]

no need to kick arse... just ask for the explanation.. theres a REASON for this... or the pads are still good... 80% wear on 12k seems obnoxious to sugguest

[marlin29311]

yea seriously...brakes normally get people around 30-40k - we're talking stock brakes/pads, etc. At 12k you should just be done braking them (no pun intended) in...

[Scandinavian Flick]

also if for some reason you do decide to change the pads, ask for the old ones back, just so you can see if they were truely worn out or not,

[Scandinavian Flick]

one more thing, i would also have the pads changed somewhere else if they truely are worn out, there is no reason to pay 300 bux for that, its really really simple to change break pads,

[Jose3.5]

They'll probably give me some bull about not being able to give them back to me because they already got rid of them.

[theoctopussi]

man, they told me the SAME BULLsh*t when I got my 05 alti... they said I had 10%... they last two years, and got my brakes changed in 07... have them SHOW you... they're full of sh*t... I HATE THE DEALER! my cousin worked at a honda dealer and he told me the horror stories on how they dupe the customers... people go in for oil changes and come out with a new master cylinder HORRIBLE... have them show you.

[Jose3.5]

So I just got a call from them but I couldn't answer my phone because I'm at work. So the voice mail said its ready and to call him back to discuss what they did to the car.

[Jose3.5]

So I went to pick up my car during my break and I'm stuck driving my brother's 22 year old pos car. So I arrive and I park and I see all these sells men just staring at me, so I'm thinking they're all going to rush me to make me buy a new car or ignore me because they think I can't afford anything. The later happened.

So I picked it up and like I thought they didn't have the brake pads anymore. They kept on telling me it was a wear and tear item so there was nothing they could do about it. So I pay for the 18 month service and the brake job. I go to my car and look over the paper work again and I see that the back pads are at 40% so I'm thinking why didn't they take car of those too.

Now back to the sells men, I'm driving my car now and I go to where I parked my brothers junker car to check that I locked all the doors. I get out and they all just stare at me like WTF? I stare at them back and I give them the ''what know? bictches'' stare, get back in my car, rev it, and take off and they're all still staring

Well anyways I don't think I'm going back to this dealership for services to my car, they work too slow and are full of it.

[BlackNWhite]

Hey Jose. What dealership is this? I want to make sure I don't go there.

[Scandinavian Flick]

So I picked it up and like I thought they didn't have the brake pads anymore. They kept on telling me it was a wear and tear item so there was nothing they could do about it. So I pay for the 18 month service and the brake job. I go to my car and look over the paper work again and I see that the back pads are at 40% so I'm thinking why didn't they take car of those too.

those scheming sons of *******...

i hate dealerships,

NOW the fact that your rear pads are at 40% is even more jacked up, your car isnt that old, your rear pads should last 60-70K miles,

well at least you showed up the sales people, its always good to have the last laugh

[LongBeachCoupe]

you will get a "satisfaction" questionaire in the mail prob... fill out accordingly

[Jose3.5]

Hey Jose. What dealership is this? I want to make sure I don't go there.

Glendale Nissan, I'm not going back to those ****ers. I'll try out Downtown Nissan or just take it to where I bought it from, Santa Monica Nissan.

you will get a "satisfaction" questionaire in the mail prob... fill out accordingly

Oh I will

[BlackNWhite]

Ah, thanks. I almost bought my car from Glendale Nissan but they were d!ck so I didn't.

[omg_i_bought_an_import]

i was just about to post about a similar situation...and mine's worse. i have 7.5k on mine and they just started squeeling today. WTF?! this is my commuter car and it sees very little hard driving and almost no hard braking....just moderate speeds when it's open highway LOL. I'll have to pull them off and check how much is left on them i guess. and believe me, i know about hard driving and braking LOL. my fun car is an 02 vette with many upgrades and big brakes and even those last me about 25k including track days here and there and occassional drives along mulholland drive early sunday mornings

whoever mentioned they heard something about a TSB, please post any info you find about it

[Cali 2 Balti G]

those scheming sons of *******...

i hate dealerships,

NOW the fact that your rear pads are at 40% is even more jacked up, your car isnt that old, your rear pads should last 60-70K miles,

What are you baseing the 60-70k figure on?

The fact the fluid was low indicates that the pads were wearing out.

as for the dealership not replacing the rear pads - rear brakes generally where half as fast as the fronts - so 40% thick pads on the back will last twice as long as the same thickness on the fronts. So in this case replacing the rear pads- would have been a rip-off.

Now that many of the ACs are passing the year mark and racking up the miles - the maintenance trends and any bugs should be starting to show - but it doesnt seem like many AC owners here have complained about the brakes.

I'm not saying there is necessarily a connection - but some Infiniti coupes had brake / rotor issues - although I think it was mainly the Brembo option that was affected. The only other issue - excessive brake dust with the factory pad. Infinitis are built and serviced with Nissan parts so there could be some commonality there.

I replaced mine at around 20k which apparently wasn;t soon enough because I needed rotors too. The later production pads and rotors are an upgrade to the original Infiniti (Nissan) rotors - so I was glad to pay less at the Nissan dealer for the same service as Infiniti. I'm discovering that I need to budget for brakes and tires - the price to pay ...

R the AC brakes any different than the Altima sedans?

Modified by Cali 2 Balti G at 6:23 PM 8/3/2008
Modified by Cali 2 Balti G at 6:27 PM 8/3/2008

[Scandinavian Flick]

What are you baseing the 60-70k figure on?

The fact the fluid was low indicates that the pads were wearing out.

you kind of answered the question in your post, i got my 60-70k figure based on the average life of motor vehicle rear pads,

on the average vehicle the front pads last appoximately 30-40K miles, now you even said that the rear last about twice as long as the front, the standard front to rear brake ratio is 70/30, so actually the rear should last just over twice as long as the front, so that is where i got my 60-70K figure from.

also i meant to comment earlier, but why were they going to bleed the brake system, its not like its leaking, it would make sense to be a little low, because like cali 2 balti g said it does go down as the pads wear, but as soon as the caliper pistons are pressed back into the calipers the fluid level will go back up,

[Scandinavian Flick]

also cali 2 balti g, did the dealership tell you that when you had new pads installed that you needed new rotors, because although not as common anymore, they could have most likely had the rotors turned, i find it real hard to believe that the rotors were ground down that far as to where they wouldnt be able to be turned.

this just goes as another reason i dislike dealerships, and actually all car places...

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

if u have under 12000miles on em than u get new ones free read the warentee

[Scandinavian Flick]

no kidding, i guess i wil have to read those warrentee papers,

ive never heard of any car company doing that before, is it common?

[Jose3.5]

I had 12, 2xx on them...

[Cali 2 Balti G]

also cali 2 balti g, did the dealership tell you that when you had new pads installed that you needed new rotors, because although not as common anymore, they could have most likely had the rotors turned, i find it real hard to believe that the rotors were ground down that far as to where they wouldnt be able to be turned.

this just goes as another reason i dislike dealerships, and actually all car places...

The rotors were too thin to be turned smoothly - I think some OEM are using thinner cheaper rotors.