need help building my ka24de

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
Golden_Nismo
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whats up guys as the title says i need help building my s14 with the ka24de in it i have it on an auto transmission but im changing that over to a 5speed i have an AEM intake and an Xtune header with a magna flow 3inch high flow cat an a 3inch flowmaster series 40 muffler but other then that im lost i mean i'm running 15 maybe 14 seconds but i need to be faster that and i have a NOS kit but i dont wanna use it so can you guys help me out i'm lost and i dont know where to look to get ka performance parts but please help me any advice or place to find parts would be greatful thanks again


matt4pl
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not running 14's... if you want power, go turbo, if you wanna be different, build a n NA motor. most importantly, search. you've come to the biggest nissan forum, wahtever you think you wanna do, its prolly been done or talked about.

Golden_Nismo
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thanks for the idea man but i mean i wanna do N/a cuz everyone else goes boost and its to big of a pain in the *** i just dont know where to start . . . i mean i dont know what else i can do i mean everything i've found it for boost or the sr20det . . . well thanks for the help and the idea man

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BIGT94z
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u can run 14's with cams and a better ecu tune..but with ur mods ur likely to run 15.3's now if u would use nitrous and add some cams and a better tune then u could see low 14's on spray. i know a few guys who have turboed their ka for under 1k and have about 215ish wrhp. just an idea

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keep in mind he's still running the auto trans. but in all honesty, boost is easy, child's play really, compared to making any real NA power on a KA, simple bolt on turb kit nets you 210ish at the wheels. to get that NA, ****, i don't even know

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BIGT94z
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matt4pl wrote:keep in mind he's still running the auto trans. but in all honesty, boost is easy, child's play really, compared to making any real NA power on a KA, simple bolt on turb kit nets you 210ish at the wheels. to get that NA, ****, i don't even know
i agree boosting the ka is simple however if its an auto ur looking a high 15's i ran a 16.1 with my auto with all the mods that you have. i would do a 5 speed swap, then suspension get the most out of your car

Golden_Nismo
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okay i get that i need cams and a transmission swap which is on the way i might add but my problem is where do i get cams for the KA motor and how did your friends do a turbo kit for under a grand i mean i just on ebay and find everything for the sr20 bit i wanna do the ka i dont see the point in dropping for a 2.4 to a 2.0 and about the ECU tune what do i have to do with that i mean do i have to get a piggy back system or is there something else out there to get to help me . . . thanks for the advice guys and keep the sugestions come i need all the help i can get

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search around, there are endless options for the KA. you can boost for cheap, but do it once, do it right. if you are indeed going for boost, hold off on the cams until later. NA cams have diff grinds from turbo cams. 1st thing though, swap over to a manual, and if boosting is in the cards, might as well drop the $ for a stronger clutch, possibly lightened flywheel. do not get clutchmasters

Golden_Nismo
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for the ka motor is boost a good idea i mean going for a n/a motor to a turbo motor dont i have to change a lot of stuff over like pistons rings, rods, head, cams, intake and exhaust manifold . . . this is my first 240 and i wanna do it right and where's the best place to start build a turbo kit i mean what should i buy first or should i just order a full kit???

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BIGT94z
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the stock internal can handle around 7psi if ur motor is in good condition. jfyi don't get a center force either. i believe the full kits are more than the piece together kits. one of my friends used everything from the sr and just got a ka turbo mani and dynoed at 205 on a crappy tune.

Golden_Nismo
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thanks man . . . maybe i should just do the 5speed swap and see if i wanna do the sr or just boost the KA so about 205 to 215 is about facotry power out of a ka motor

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most def do 5spd swap 1st, then do suspension mods, power without control aint jack (cliche i know, but its so true)

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GReddy, relatively cheap, safe/reliable, and high quality! Comes with pre-tuned piggyback fuel management so you still have your stock tune as a base which = good driveability and gas mileage. People dont realize that it takes literally like a month of tuning to match the quality of a stock tune if you have to start from scratch.

You do your transmission swap, upgrade the suspension, and THEN install a base GReddy turbo kit and enjoy it. Leave it alone and dont do anything else until you really know what you are doing and you wont have any problems.

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BIGT94z
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zerothread/216173 check this out if ur thinking about the greddy kit. this guy made huge numbers on just 8 psi and stock internals i beleive. factory power out of a ka is 155 to the crank. with exhaust/header/intake and a good tune up u can easily get 180ish to the crank but a minor turbo set up can easily gain u 215 ish but just research man. jsut take your time and save your money. you will enjoy your car more in the long run. hope that helps

Golden_Nismo
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hell yea man thanks for that forum i'm gonna look for the greddy kit see what i can do for me and whats the price tag gonna run me . . . and keep the adive coming

Golden_Nismo
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well guys maybe i should just do an SR. motor i mean there eazier to build and i can get one for like 1300 but thats just the motor let me know what you'll thank or hell if i felt froggy and wanna to save for half a life time i could do an RB series but let me know what you'll think

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5spd, suspension, power, unless you know 100% ur going sr, then you can do 5spd and sr at the same time.

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BIGT94z
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matt4pl wrote:5spd, suspension, power, unless you know 100% ur going sr, then you can do 5spd and sr at the same time.
he will change his mind and go ka-t (they always do)


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