Naloo10's S13 drift project thread...56k? mmm def not

[Naloos13]

Fantasizing is always fun, but i already know which direction im going. Valences are out of the question and look retarded in my own opinion, i had some and it made it look like my car belonged in star wars or something of the like. I am going with over fenders in the rear as i already have them in the front.

I am with you, i am not sure why people dont go the way im going with the motor. Here is my theory. I am running 272/272 cams as well as a gt2871r .86. The two of those together equal boost lag death. However, everyone who does that combo also does aftermarket intake plenum as well for super high horsepower in the top of the power band. In fact, i cant think of anyone off hand that hasnt done a plenum as well. I on the other hand will be using the stock intake. I will not be maximizing top end hp, but it should minimize the boost lag a little. I went with a midmount as well to minimize the boost lag even more. So all in all with 272/272 cams and a 2871r .86 i am hoping to hit full boost around 3000-3200 rpm which with other setups is usually 4000-4200 rpm.

Wheels:A friend of mine has some meister s1's, and i would absolutely looooove to have them...however, they are pretty much double my budget for wheels at this point, so i have given up finding them. I am debating buying these... SSR A-dish 18x9 18x11.17's are too small, and to get the proper look the car just sits way too low, i want that extra ride height too much to buy 17's. FYI: the car with the sportmaxx's is not mine. That is my friends. I bought his front bumper from him...the one that is pictured on his car.

I promise to post up some update pictures after this weekend...

[Kalypso]

its going to look good with the rear overfenders.

oh and before I forget... I see you added to the fender well. but whats the benefit of doing that?

I never understood this.

[MastaYu]

^

[dopplganger1]

its for tire clearance when your lower plus if hes running 18s he'll need it hell with my 16s the front rubs the paint off so i just have a spot were its bare metal.

[Naloos13]

Wow, good call on the version select side skirts? the rear as well? I wont be having any push fans. I have stainless ducting (more like a scoop) from the center inlet on the bumper to the front frame. I cant really explain it but will take some pictures this weekend (i always seem to say that and never do...but i will try!)

As far as oil cooler, i will be running it most likely right behind where my friend mounted his license plate. Tubbing the wheel wells is for added clearance when running a large wheel up front. Without doing this, you can not hit full lock in the steering because the tire will hit the wheel well. For example... i am looking soooo hard right now to find a set of wheels. I will be running 18x10 (f) 18x11 (r).

I answered that question already...

mini update...painted front end (ignore the brake booster...it is now painted black, i was just too lazy to mask at the time.

[Kalypso]

wow... thats worthwhile.

18s actually sound like a good ideaim going to truncate my giant post.

lookin good

[DJButton]

I say snatch those SSR's before someone else does, you see where they were posted in the premie hook-up thread on Zilvia, I'm assuming since it's the same picture. Price is insane, I'd love to pick up those Emitz they have!

I think that's definitely fair trade with the engine there. Let me know when a good time is to pick it up and drop off the line is, weekends are best for me. Unless of course you feel like driving up here at some point, more then welcome to check out the transformation this place has got.

[Naloos13]

Ya, i think i will have to snatch up the ssr's, they are so cheap but not quite the sizes i wanted, but close enough to get me rolling again. Those Emitz are nuts! For a while i was debating those bad boys...but just not the syle im going for.

So excuse me for asking even though this sounds really stupid. You work at Fuji SPL? And that is located in Manchester? Any chance we could meet up there considering i work and live there? ha. If not ill do whatever. Hit me up on my e-mail and we can work something out. Its [email protected] Thanks bud

[Naloos13]

So heres an update. I got the whole back of the roll cage welded up. I should have the front bars (going over the door and down the a-pillar) bent by Wednesday if i have time, so that is all that is holding me up from putting the rest together. Anyway, here are some progress pics.

[ScrapMetal]

Great work, loving this build!

[Cameron]

clean up that interior bro. get the rest of that sound deadining off.

[Naloos13]

all that is left is the rear wheel wells... lol I'm waiting for another thermos of liquid nitrogen

[Cameron]

ahh. also that main hoops sorta far from the b pillar are you going to put gussets in there?

[DJButton]

Ya, i think i will have to snatch up the ssr's, they are so cheap but not quite the sizes i wanted, but close enough to get me rolling again. Those Emitz are nuts! For a while i was debating those bad boys...but just not the syle im going for.

So excuse me for asking even though this sounds really stupid. You work at Fuji SPL? And that is located in Manchester? Any chance we could meet up there considering i work and live there? ha. If not ill do whatever. Hit me up on my e-mail and we can work something out. Its [email protected] Thanks bud

Hah, def. missed this post completly. I'll shoot you an e-mail, we did a photoshootish thing today, few of us came down to Manchester and went to dinner etc.

clean up that interior bro. get the rest of that sound deadining off.

I was like, uh what, it's pretty much all gone... clean interiors<car getting used. imoAnyhow, cage looks very nice, one of us here still needs to bite the bullet and get a bender, have sheet metal brake and shear, but no mandrel.

[Cameron]

why not have both?

[Naloos13]

ahh. also that main hoops sorta far from the b pillar are you going to put gussets in there?

The gap isnt that bad between the main hoop and the b-pillar in person. I really didnt have any choice about the angle of that bend. DOM is stupid hard to bend and in order to not destroy the integrity of the pipe it simply had to be that angle

I am pretty sure im not going to use any gussets, when its all finished there really shouldnt be any flex. Also, this is how it is designed. In all 4 corners there is the roll cage on top of the floor, then a 3/8" plate, then the floor pan, then another 3/8" plate under the floor pan, and another 1.5" DOM tube angled to the frame, with another 3/8" plate welded in between the frame and the pipe.

So basically the cage itself is all built off the frame (like it should be), not just a weak sheet metal floor pan, therefore im pretty sure that gussets are not needed. They are pretty much a 50/50 thing as far as i have researched. Kazama has them, Nomura doesnt.

As far as not having both sets of wheels, thats over $3k and if im going to spend that much i would buy a set of TE37 or Work meister S1's. Secondly, i would much rather spend that money and put it towards a more practical use in my life since i am not living my life to build this car.

Thanks Dan, a sheet metal brake must be nice. Im gonna add a nice Chop Saw to the Must have list while were at at. Where the pictures at?

[Nismo24zero]

sweet build that car looks efin amazing

[DJButton]

Yeah my neighbor just picked up a decent chop saw for the garage this past week, very handy, and the portable band saw.

[Kalypso]

ahh. also that main hoops sorta far from the b pillar are you going to put gussets in there?

what are gussets, and which ones the B pillar?

[jspec603]

The A pillar is the windshield frame.

The B pillar is the one that goes verticle between the door glass and the rear quarter window.

The C pillar is the rear most.

This is what they are talking about regarding the gusset. You basicly make the cage and the body of the car one unit.

[Naloos13]

Speaking of gussets...where can you buy them? or do you need to make them yourself? I researched a bit and couldn't find any.

[phanatikz32]

nice build man, as for the skirts and rear, why not look at the origin they are straight and to the point, no fancy designs.

[Kalypso]

thanks for the explaination

[Cameron]

naloo just find 1/8th inch thick mild steel plates and use like a 20 ton press to make the holes in the gussets then weld it to the body and cage.
Modified by Cameron at 12:36 AM 11/18/2008

[thursdaymike]

build looks good so far, are you hardwire welding the cage or what? just curious, i like to see what people use!

[Cameron]

naloo after looking forever for a place that sells 1/8th inch thick flat steel on the internet, i found this place.

http://www.metalsdepot.com/pro...imAcc

just measure how far your piping is from your frame and go from there so if it was 3 inches get 1/8th by 3 inches and decide how many feet you need. you get the idea. 3in wide is about right for most cages though.

just press holes every inch or so. you decide on the diameter of your punch.

[DJButton]

Give me a shout about orderding metal for gusseting to man. We need to make an order soon for this Z we're building and I'm sure if you need stuff we can work something out. We get very, very good pricing. As far as making the gusseting, you'll need to get dimple dies. Here's a link where a friend got some, he used a 1" die as it was something of a good middle ground. http://vansantent.com/sheet_me...s.htm

[Naloos13]

Hey guys thanks for the info. Im still pretty sure im not going to use any gussets, but nice to know that you make them rather than buy. And thanks dan, but i get all my metal at cost or free because my dad sells steel for Mill Metals in manchester.

[DJButton]

Hey guys thanks for the info. Im still pretty sure im not going to use any gussets, but nice to know that you make them rather than buy. And thanks dan, but i get all my metal at cost or free because my dad sells steel for Mill Metals in manchester.

Pssh, nevermind then! That's where we get steel too, just not that cheap.

[Cameron]

why not just do it? it technically makes the car and cage one, and braces it even more. its only like 10 bucks for 4 feet which is enough. cause really the only places you need to put it is on the A pillers, and on the B pillars. just do it man.

Hey guys thanks for the info. Im still pretty sure im not going to use any gussets, but nice to know that you make them rather than buy. And thanks dan, but i get all my metal at cost or free because my dad sells steel for Mill Metals in manchester.