My S13 SR20DET build

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240sxJoe91
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wow very nice


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nissanman04
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Nice project

You do realize that once you drive this, you won't want to go back to the celica, right?

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hot damn that looks good

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OM3GA
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Wow looking clean as hell.



This is for emissions stuff like the PAIR Valve and whatnot you dont need it, the smaller plug on the left idk what its for maybe for the Ambient air temp sensor. Either way you dont need either of those nor the power steering one.

If you need wiring let me know, i got a surprise for a lot of SR owners haha youll see a group buy coming up in the next couple months. If you need any Wiring work let me know.

Keep the updates comin! I cant wait to post my build thread, i am sick as hell right now probably nothing maybe just some swine action.

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Caveit77777 wrote:I'm just confused on how everybody on this site seems to know how to pull and rebuild an engine. Where did you guys even start to learn this?
its real easy if you know what your doing. i'm 17 and i've done 3 motor swaps over the past summer. didnt know s*** about how to work on cars about a year ago lol. but this site is a good place to start to learn. pulling a motor is easy, replacing it is just about as easy, and rebuilding just takes research to do it right... and of course good tools to do the job. just go to the local forums and read up/google/ask other car people/ common sense/car fsm. i learned ALOT from nico and my local forum, kcda-online.com.

to the OP this build in NICE. i was going to rebuild my sohc ka but found a better deal. what you're doing was exactly what i was planning, full rebuild, make everything look new/nice, better parts, etc. i'm SUBSCRIBED! engine bay looks great

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im_looking_for_a_240sx wrote:its real easy if you know what your doing. i'm 17 and i've done 3 motor swaps over the past summer. didnt know s*** about how to work on cars about a year ago lol. but this site is a good place to start to learn. pulling a motor is easy, replacing it is just about as easy, and rebuilding just takes research to do it right... and of course good tools to do the job. just go to the local forums and read up/google/ask other car people/ common sense/car fsm. i learned ALOT from nico and my local forum, kcda-online.com.

to the OP this build in NICE. i was going to rebuild my sohc ka but found a better deal. what you're doing was exactly what i was planning, full rebuild, make everything look new/nice, better parts, etc. i'm SUBSCRIBED! engine bay looks great
Yeah I sorta learned today you can read as much as you can and learn some but experience is the best way. My aux fan sliced open my upper radiator hose because I'm guessing it stretched out and with high pressure it ballooned towards the fan and the fan sliced it open. So the fan threw anti freeze EVERYWHERE and smoke just started pouring so, my hood pops the oppisite way (BMW) and i was able to pop my hood while I drive.

Well lets just say today I learned a bunch about pulleys, radiators and the hoses, and all of the tanks under my hood and what they have in them. I feel it's really not as hard as it looks now just a lot of small technical things to get in the way.

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I cleaned and painted more shat these past few days. I also installed all the bushings in the the front suspension as well.

A of the engine bay as I put stuff back on...

I grinded down the rubber lining in the fender wells. This is by far the s***tiest thing to do ever. This is something I don't ever want to do again. I definitely did a half-a** job getting rid of all the material and paint. I'm re-thinking the idea of re-lining the entire underbody...Rust bulletliner--I did 3 coats

had some downtime, so I decided to paint the brackets on the cruise control. lol

Greddy RAS!!!

and the new timing chain tensioner. old vs. new

I'm almost down re-installing the front suspension and engine components. Next on the list now is: - grinding down the under body and re-coating with herculiner - Cleaning and painting rear suspension - installing all the rear ES bushings - drop and clean the fuel tank

I think after all that, I'll be ready to drop the motor in. Maybe even sooner. Then...wiring.

I'm still looking for several parts, just waiting for a good deal:SR intakeSR/Q45/Z32 MAF, whatever really. Just looking for around 250-300 hp.SR downpipeTriple gauge pod for S13


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OM3GA wrote:
This is for emissions stuff like the PAIR Valve and whatnot you dont need it, the smaller plug on the left idk what its for maybe for the Ambient air temp sensor. Either way you dont need either of those nor the power steering one.

If you need wiring let me know, i got a surprise for a lot of SR owners haha youll see a group buy coming up in the next couple months. If you need any Wiring work let me know.

Keep the updates comin! I cant wait to post my build thread, i am sick as hell right now probably nothing maybe just some swine action.
Thanks for the info, I'll probably cut it off or something. I think the left is for the A/C. That, I'm planning on keeping.

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Been working on putting everything back together while juggling christmas with the fam.Suspension is Oh so cleeaaaaan

Finished putting together the motor.

FINALLY organized the rest of my parts

I also found a set of Toyota Celica Seats for $75!!! I couldn't pass up on these, I'll make them fit some how...

While putting the wheels back on, I found that the bearings on both front wheels are bad so I'm on a search for some new hubs....Next on the list: - Underbody - Rear sub-frame cleaning - Interior - dropping motor - wiring - and done??

If all goes to schedule, the car should be running some time mid-next week, so probably next weekend.


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cooking pot heatshield ftw

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damn tweaker how long did it take you to do all of this? it seems like its coming together pretty quickly. i could be wrong though. i dont know the time frame in which this was all done in.

great build so far. keep it up!

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SICK build!

how long did it take to do the bay completely like that?

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youngmoney wrote: damn tweaker how long did it take you to do all of this? it seems like its coming together pretty quickly. i could be wrong though. i dont know the time frame in which this was all done in.

great build so far. keep it up!
breaker77 wrote:SICK build!

how long did it take to do the bay completely like that?
lol, thanks guys. I think I started all this during Thanksgiving break. Then I had to go back to school till about December 8th-ish and every since then, its been about 10+ hours in the garage almost everyday.So if I were to guess, total is about 3-4 weeks of work. I started the engine bay around the beginning of last week. Cleaning 16 years of grime and sludge was definitely a task I would want to avoid for the rest of my life.

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Jtultra wrote:
lol, thanks guys. I think I started all this during Thanksgiving break. Then I had to go back to school till about December 8th-ish and every since then, its been about 10+ hours in the garage almost everyday.So if I were to guess, total is about 3-4 weeks of work. I started the engine bay around the beginning of last week. Cleaning 16 years of grime and sludge was definitely a task I would want to avoid for the rest of my life.
holy s*** thats a long time. you have some serious dedication man. at least its paying off! all i want for christmas is a frost white bay like that! haha

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awesome prep work! Nice work yo!

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nice work bro! im starting the sr swap soon and plan to do the same, i hope to have the same results as yours.

how did you prep the motor for paint? looks like an insane amount of work.

i have a s*** load of work ahead of me

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Updaaaaate

Found a sweet a** deal on a Mig welder on criagslist. $100 smackers. I sold my Stick welder for $150!

scrubbed and cleaned the interior for a nice shiney layer of Peel n' Seal from Lowe's. who needs Dynamat??

I dyed the carpet black and replaced the Jute padding with regular carpet padding. This mexican sold me that roll for 2 bucks, couldn't refuse.

Nice little grounding plate.

installed!

I also decided to start on a small wire tuck, this should give you an idea of what I'm looking to do.

Soo it looks like my motor is an Auto and my harness is from a 5-speed. The TPS on the motor is a 6 prong with these wires.

The Plug on the harness is a 3 prong (brown) with these wires.

I'm planning on splicing white to white , black to black, red and green wires to red/light green wire on the manual harness and disregard the rest on the 6 prong. can someone confirm this? Just want to make sure...

Also, the oil drain tube from the turbo was ripped when I got the motor and I am really really really trying to avoid paying 20 bucks for another one. Can I use some sort of high temp oil resistant rubber hose substitute? Silicone maybe?

I'm also thinking about my plumbing for an oil catch can since I don't have room for it with that megan manifold. I was thinking the right side of the T goes to the block and then Left side of the T goes to a new catch can then from the catch can to the intake. Does that sound about right? I've seen like a million different configurations.


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Looks great! I'm wondering why that grey wire on the manual TPS is thicker than the others. I need to extend mine also, im just assuming it is just a lower gauge wire and does not have multiple wires inside. Have you spliced into yours yet? Is that correct?


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OM3GA wrote:Looks great! I'm wondering why that grey wire on the manual TPS is thicker than the others. I need to extend mine also, im just assuming it is just a lower gauge wire and does not have multiple wires inside. Have you spliced into yours yet? Is that correct?
It's an insulated wire to keep the signal from being distorted. The insulation stops like an inch or so before the plug and its the same gauge or similar as the other wires. I'm actually going to extend mine for the wire tuck and I'm going to cut some insulated wire from my older KA harness. hopefully, I'll be doing that today. AND hopefully someone will chime in and confirm my wiring will be correct. Mrgreeneyes???

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great job man keep it up what was wrong with your KA?

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peal and seal FTW

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i have that same drop light! we're basically twinkies

still very jealous of the build btw

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Very Nice and Very Clean Swap and build

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hmmmm. good question on the TPS. i haven't had to deal with one of those yet, where there's an auto->5spd discrepancy.

gimme a little time, ill see what i can scrounge up.

from what i recall tho, the AUTO tps has (2) 3-pin plugs and you only need the one plug.

so logic says that you connect:

Black to BlackShielded Wire to Shielded WireGreen/Red to Green/Red

and to hell with the rest. actually looking at your pics, yes, that's correct. nissan pretty much dummy proofed the wires, unless your a** is colorblind, in which case, im sorry.

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wow man you've inspired me to maybe try this just a couple questions...well only one how much is this costing you?

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clean clean clean great work!!! love to see the turn out on this

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This one is a long one...

I painted some interior pieces this "black diamond" paint from House of Kolor, I think its a good subtle touch. you can see the amount of metal flake thats in the paint.



Took everything off the rear of the car and put it on the dolley.

started grinding the underbody down...

And recoated the whole thing, worst idea ever. I will never freaking do this bulls*** again.

I also painted and pressed in new ES bushings---also on my list on s*** I will never do again.

all installed with Isis subframe collars.

***This is my first time doing wiring, if anyone sees anything thats wrong. please, please,please let me know!!!

I started a little wire tuck today, pretty much putting everything under the runners or the whole intake manifold. I ran the coolant temp and TPS into one loom and ran it under the manifold.

My snazzy crank angle sensor

Just to give you an idea on what I'm looking to do...

I also cut the loop out...done!

wired in the Q45 ignitor

Here's the finished product. I added the expandable sleeving where ever I could. and cut any and all unused plugs. I also integrate the wiring for my after market water temp and oil pressure guages. Should have done my boost gauge too....

my tuck job.

Here are all the plugs I had cut off, anyone see any that i SHOULDN'T have taken off???

With the TPS, I ended up wiring it the way I had said in my previous post. I matched color for color and Spliced the Green and Red wires into the Red w/ green stripe wire...I hope this works.

Tomorrow I will install the fuel pump and drop that motha effing motor in!

Can anyone tell me the belt sizes for the SR?

I also still need input on the Turbo oil drain tube!!!

I need a downpipe!!!
YakshaXaio wrote:wow man you've inspired me to maybe try this just a couple questions...well only one how much is this costing you?
My budget is $5,000. Im not really sure where I'm at now, but last time I was keeping track I was a little over 4500 and that was before I started selling parts from the car.

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Still want a Q45 maf? Someone sold me one thinking it was a Z32. I let him know he was mistaken, but given it was christmas time, I wasn't enough of an a** to try and ask for a refund considering the label with the part number was in the pics and I just didn't check it. On ebay, they seem to sell for anywhere from $50 to $80 shipped. I'll sell you this one for $40 shipped. It's in good condition. Let me know if you want, and I'll email you some pics.

P.S. It has a pigtail with it.

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So whats up with the shielded TPS wire? Where do you cut the original one? Do you cut it after the shielding stops at that "inch" or so before the plug?

I dont quite understand the whole shielded wire thing and what you have to do to protect it.

Perfection is very important to me.

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OM3GA wrote:So whats up with the shielded TPS wire? Where do you cut the original one? Do you cut it after the shielding stops at that "inch" or so before the plug?

I dont quite understand the whole shielded wire thing and what you have to do to protect it.

Perfection is very important to me.
I cut it an inch or so before the plug. How you would extend shielded wire, well atleast what I think you should do... I had a junk harness wire shielded wire in it, I cut it out. Then I carefully cut the outer sleeving of the shielded wire, about half an down from where I plan to solder. Once you cut the outer sleeving, there is the actual "shield". Just clump it up and move it aside. then solder the wire, heat shrink, and then I re-wrapped the wire with that "shielding". I finished it off with electrical tape. Sorry if this sounds confusing, I just woke up. Let me know if you have anymore questions.


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