my bois 726 hp civic vs me

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hummm i have a s13 with a sr20det black top and my boi just tuned his b16 civic at 18 psi completely built and hes running 726 hp on race gas

sooo i need to contend with that my sr black top is stock

what type of turbo upgrade should i get , injectors , boost controller and how much psi should i tune at boost to contend with him


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Hmmmm...

I don't want to disappoint you, but if he is TRULY laying down 726 hp (I call BS if it's a street car), you'll never touch him without THOUSANDS of dollars in work to an SR.

He's basically running an NDRA car and you're driving a stock economy car that just happens to have a small turbo.

Take some time, read a LOT of posts here about high-hp SR's, and please, please, please let's spell "boy" correctly if you want to be taken seriously.

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AZhitman wrote:Hmmmm...

I don't want to disappoint you, but if he is TRULY laying down 726 hp (I call BS if it's a street car), you'll never touch him without THOUSANDS of dollars in work to an SR.

He's basically running an NDRA car and you're driving a stock economy car that just happens to have a small turbo.

Take some time, read a LOT of posts here about high-hp SR's, and please, please, please let's spell "boy" correctly if you want to be taken seriously.

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First off, Welcome

Second, +2 for AZHitman layin out the truth.

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AZhitman wrote:...and please, please, please let's spell "boy" correctly if you want to be taken seriously.
Very good piece of advice.

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R-Yahne_240 wrote: hummm i have a s13 with a sr20det black top and my boi just tuned his b16 civic at 18 psi completely built and hes running 726 hp on race gas
What size turbo is he running to make 726hp at only 18psi? I find that hard to believe, anything big enough to do that wouldn't spool on a b16.

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S13FREEAAK wrote:What size turbo is he running to make 726hp at only 18psi? I find that hard to believe, anything big enough to do that wouldn't spool on a b16.
AZhitman wrote:Hmmmm...

I don't want to disappoint you, but if he is TRULY laying down 726 hp (I call BS if it's a street car), you'll never touch him without THOUSANDS of dollars in work to an SR.

He's basically running an NDRA car and you're driving a stock economy car that just happens to have a small turbo.

Take some time, read a LOT of posts here about high-hp SR's, and please, please, please let's spell "boy" correctly if you want to be taken seriously.

Welcome aboard!
+654651681 for Greg!

if that is true, it will be (most likely) at least a year before you can come close to him

BTW: i have a pic of a 700+fwhp Civic that some shop tuned, but i dont know whats done to it(its a street car)

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I have no doubt that they exist on the street, but if it was indeed a 726-hp Civic, he'd be referring to it by the sponsor's name, not as "my boi's car".

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probably a gt40

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i understand

i was mentioning i have the video in case anyone wants to say "honda's can make that power" yada yada yada

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video to [email protected] please

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I have seen such high horsepowered Honda's, but theres no way at only 18 lbs of boost. That would have to be some super secret prototype turbo or something. And if it is still a 1.6, I would love to see the torque numbers on that car.

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video to [email protected] aswell please.


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I agree. I've seen hondas running like 10 pounds and still putting down numbers below 200. That guys probly only somewhere in the 250-300 whp range.

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Yeah, most likely. Unless the engine is running high compression (10:1+), then maybe 500HP... But still doensn't sound likely to me.

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I love overrated horsepower numbers

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video doesnt seem to want to send in either yahoo or gmail

get at me on AIM and i can send it to you

or if someone wants to host it

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S13Coupe wrote:I agree. I've seen hondas running like 10 pounds and still putting down numbers below 200. That guys probly only somewhere in the 250-300 whp range.
i've seen hondas put down some pretty poor #'s as well but there are still plenty of hondas that do put down some really nice #'s. i have friends making well over 300 on boost in the low teens. but the is no way that that guy made 700+ on 18psi.

and just for fun i'll post a link to CFT's website where you can download some nice vids of hondas making 600-750whp and running at the track. http://www.centralfloridaturbo...s.php

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well here my Boy's car (d!ck) and yeah hes running a gt42r by garrett

18 ps1 on 110 race fuel caculate it yeah and for the comment that its not big enough hey hes will to throw down some money

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S13Coupe wrote:I agree. I've seen hondas running like 10 pounds and still putting down numbers below 200. That guys probly only somewhere in the 250-300 whp range.


well whats the motor code its probly a single cam d16 my friend has a B16 with 180hp stock dohc vtec with 18 psi on race gas

yes race fuel makes a diffrence

on pump 93 octane hes at about 550 i think but im not sure

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dang man i though we where like brothers in here im asking for some mod lists to throw down some big numbers and i get crap for it


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once again what motor is he boosting it sounds to me like a single cam I have friends that have d16 motors with 22 psi in the 400's but a b series motor is dual cam

for example take the ka24e and turbo that yeah it sucks

but the ka24de is going to be alot faster with the same boost level

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Seishuku wrote:Yeah, most likely. Unless the engine is running high compression (10:1+), then maybe 500HP... But still doensn't sound likely to me.
are yall only into nissan motors or are yall really into cars and a true fan of tuning

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Seishuku wrote:Yeah, most likely. Unless the engine is running high compression (10:1+), then maybe 500HP... But still doensn't sound likely to me.
check the compression on a b16 a 1

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hey a lil research fo you all to look up

http://www.boostfedracing.com

http://www.honda-tech.com

yeah i know this is a nissan web site but im all about every diffrent make and models of cars

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i had a b16a and those have like 160-70hp stock.... no way it can get to 700hp... stock comp is 10.5:1

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R-Yahne, a lot of us here are former honda owners or even still current honda owners ( I am!! civic ex dd bishes) and we know that this guy you're talking about is your friend, but to ask how you can get 750whp to catch up with your friend requires too much of many things. Unless your pockets are very very deep, you have a lot of time and know every single in and out of this motor, you dont really have much of a chance of hanging wiht him on a drag strip.

We also arent trying to piss you off by claiming your friends car doesnt make 750whp...but theres no way its making that at 18psi. The dyno I just posted is from a member of Honda-tech, making 776 whp, showing it is very achievable on a Honda as any knowledgable tuner would tell you. But this guy is making that at 34psi!! Using a gt42r, and a 1.8 motor on race fuel.

If you still want to make this much power, I'm sure if you've got the funds, people on here can point you in the right direction.


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i'm just gonna ask for everyone to be nice to each other, or this will thread will find its way to the big trash bin in the sky

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Yeah, I really have no problem with Hondas. I just don't see one getting anywhere near 700 on only 18psi.

But there is one thing I don't really enjoy about Hondas. Look at the torque numbers on that dyno. But then again they have the high revs I guess

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i understand that and its cool i talked to him today

he spent 13K on that motor and building it it is tuned at 18 psi for daily driving

maybe on my first post i was not clear on what i said

tuned at 18 psi hes about 550

sorry for the confusion and when he ups the boost (30psi ) hes 726

yeah kinda big diffrence but last week when i talked to him i heard 18psi and 726hp

his boost controller allows up to 35 psi but hes limited to his intercooler

yeah i got some money to throw down on this car i have just done the sr20det black top swap into my s13

now i want some big rearwheel drive numbers


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