my 92 240vs. TYPE_R

[LSB_11]

so me and my freinds are driving around the kc area, and there is a new shopping place, looks like a little town, called Zona Rosa. they have a three level parking garage, so we go to the top level and i guess to integras follow. one a gsr and one a type-r. both kids with parents money and both new to driving. talking alot of **** on my 240, saying how i need an sr to be fast at all (me being the prick i am, played dumb and acted like i didnt know what an sr was, made them look stupid by the end of the night)

so to the race we whent, i couldnt stand his mouth anymore, so we go to place, we pull up, my friend tell him how he flags and if hes ok with it, i look over at him and do a giant one wheel peel of a brake stand, then i kick his *** all the way to about 95mph, he only pulled alittle bit in third, his front bumper never crossed the front of my door,.........

and by the way, i had my girlfrind and her best friend in the back seat, mods AEM intake, and rigged crushed bent cat back from previous ower.

[Fenvy]

the car is much faster than yours but it doesn't mean **** when the driver can't drive

I can't even beat gsrs and I think I am at least an okay driver

[fuzion]

My car either has 50 hp or I REALLY SUCK at driving

Everything beats me This prelude was on my ***, then i found out why.. he had NO back end... from the rear tire back it was completely smashed and gone, the ultimate weight reduction - get in a wreck and loose half the car

Seriously i guess im ub3r n00b3r @ the driving =/

[Fenvy]

i dont think I can even beat my own integra ls with my 240sx, stock to stock

the integra has better powerband and seemly faster for the first 2 gears. even more so with gsr or r motor

[[Zero-S]]

I beat teggys all the time...Then again the people around here can't drive for **** tho.

[LSB_11]

yeah, this kid was young and ran his mouth alot, i think he was scared of the one wheel peel of a brake stand i did. but even if he got a horrible launch, i dropped the clutch at 5K and lit up the wheel. then we were right next to each other, he never really pulled that hard on me and in fourth not at all. i thought typ-r's would drive around me. i even asked him if he missed a gear or wanted to run again, he got half a no out when walking away.

[LSB_11]

oh yeah, i forgot about him running his mouth after i left to back to my place (parents were gone for the weekend) to all my freinds there that he killed me. i think if you have a type r and are even right next to me, even though his front end never passed my wheel, thats a loss.

[Fenvy]

it's probably because that you are much better of a driver than he is. I don't think a good driver would mouth off at all.

[nlzmo400r]

i dont think I can even beat my own integra ls with my 240sx, stock to stock

the integra has better powerband and seemly faster for the first 2 gears. even more so with gsr or r motor

take a look at dyno graphs for an LS and a 24o. The power band of an LS is skinnier than toyota echo tires

[Fenvy]

I was mainly refering to the gsr and the r

my ls vs my 240sx was just butt dyno hehe but thanks for clearing that up

how abotu the gearing? and weight? what's ls's stock 1/4 mile as opposed to 240sx?

[TachyonS14]

Hard to tell because there are lots of freaky KA's out there. Or, maybe the factor freaks are just working like they are supposed to and the majority of KA's are torn up. Anyway, the LS and 240 quarter mile times are about the same with a slight .1 or .2 advantage i'd say to the 240sx.

[Fenvy]

my ls and s13 is abotu the same milage... the s13 is actually in better condition but for some reason I don't like to redline it... the ls on the other hand was a joy when I redline it... just can't get enough of the redline... of course, after 3rd gear it's not as fun because it's slow.

[9095240SXDUCK]

My 90 S13 Base 125K is about 1/2-3/4 of a car faster then my friend 95 GS-R with only 40K. I thought he cant drive but when we switch cars my S13 is still ahead of his. I am not BSing!

[Fenvy]

gsr has a dohc engine with 20 more hp? than the 90's sohc engine

I dont see how you'd have won...

[LSB_11]

yeah, i have consistantly beat two gsr's, i have 157k on the DOHC ka and i have had two mechanics tell me its one of the gest running ka's they have seen, so i dont know, but i guess my car must run a 14.4, the type-r kid says he runs a 14.5, hahahahaha

[9095240SXDUCK]

gsr has a dohc engine with 20 more hp? than the 90's sohc engine

I dont see how you'd have won...

Ok

I know I am about to sound like a ***. But whenever someone think about cars all they know is HP. HP is only use to keep the speed that the TQ have acheve. What make your car move or pick up speed is TQ. A GSR which I have own about 3 years ago. you need to REV the **** out of the B18C to get the 170HP and If I am not wrong 130lb TQ at 6500-7000RPM. But the KA which is built for TQ not HP. Will out pull a B18C or even a B20 (CRV engine). the only engine that will out pull a KA in stock to stock in honda engine is F (2.2+), H , and all of the V6.

[marshun]

well the other guys who are good at doing drags dont mouth off. i just see'em whoop on people all night.

he's prolly mad cause you called him on his bull****. was it even a real type r? or he bought the decal?

[nlzmo400r]

my ls and s13 is abotu the same milage... the s13 is actually in better condition but for some reason I don't like to redline it... the ls on the other hand was a joy when I redline it... just can't get enough of the redline... of course, after 3rd gear it's not as fun because it's slow.

thats because of engine design. The ls has a shorter stroke than the KA and therefore can more easily be revved higher still gaining power, the sacrifice however, as we know is low end torque. The ka has a huge stroke and tons of low end, however doesnt like hte 68oo rpm redline because theres no power to be had up there. W/ a ka (stock anyway) the best place to shift (from what i gather) is about 6k-ish (give or take 3oo rpm) and it puts you right back in the fatty part of hte torque band

[LSB_11]

the car was a genuine type-r, was the type-r yellow, five lug wheel pattern, and my freind with the turbo gsr said the engine was the type-r also, im not much of a honda guy but my freinds that were there know there ****.

[Nameless EJ6]

"this kid was young""made them look stupid by the end of the night""both kids with parents money""running his mouth"

These things you're saying make you look to be on about the same level as him. You do realize that dont you? I barely believe a word you type.

The ITR WILL take your car in a worthless drag race that it wasn't MEANT FOR if driven right.. and it will do it VERY consistently. You don't seem to want to accept that he has a better car than you, that's sad.. and I think you're telling yourself this in the back of your head even if you DID beat him. You do know that stock ITR's will run low 14's with good tires right? It's not uncommon. Please don't get all jolly inside because you've beat one ITR in a sketchy street race where both parties likely had terrible drivers.

With all BS and 15 year old mentality aside, after I skim through your posts, I have a feeling he had a horrible launch and lost traction if you beat him with 2 more people in your car.

btw, I ran a 14.5 in my hatchback with a stock ITR swap. That was with terrible tires and dry weight difference of about 200 pounds from an actual ITR. My 60ft was 2.4

Think about that.. can you see why he probably wasn't bullshatting you when he told you ran a 14.5? Alot of ITR owners can hit 14.5. Take a trip over to the Honda forums and have a talk with them for yourself.

[LSB_11]

uh oh, the mighty honda owner finally showed up. i never said his car was slow, i said he didnt beat me, he wasnt a good driver, he was young, so young that he could not have afforded that car with is own money. i do believe i asked the kid if he wanted another run, and as for my car, yeah its slow as ****. the sr will be in in two weeks, then you and your mighty honda can come try to take me then. i know exactly what i have, i never talk ****, only when people talk **** do i do anything at all. i think this whole post is a joke, or at least to me it was.

[neokeoki]

I cant wait to race one a GSR or a Type R one day.. but they have been profiling racers here in Hachinohe where everyone goes...

[blackcruzan]

u got lucky nuff said.

[neokeoki]

lucky? maybe i should start a thread for B18 series vs SR20... hmmm.. what you rollin on cruzan?

[blackcruzan]

89 golf at the moment. i'm on here looking to gather info about the 240sx, since its on my list of cars to look into getting when i get back from iraq

no need to start a thread about that debate......., but go ahead if you want cause that would be some good info.

[neokeoki]

what branch? AF here stationed in Japan. I dont think I should start one... too much reading..

[blackcruzan]

i'm 2yrs in the nat'l guard and i can't wait to get out. i leave in 2 1/2 weeks to mississippi for like 6 months then its to iraq for a year.

[neokeoki]

daym... well, be careful and have fun.. im going home to cry about my bumper.. its my new post.. later!

[Nameless EJ6]

uh oh, the mighty honda owner finally showed up. i never said his car was slow, i said he didnt beat me, he wasnt a good driver, he was young, so young that he could not have afforded that car with is own money. i do believe i asked the kid if he wanted another run, and as for my car, yeah its slow as ****. the sr will be in in two weeks, then you and your mighty honda can come try to take me then. i know exactly what i have, i never talk ****, only when people talk **** do i do anything at all. i think this whole post is a joke, or at least to me it was.

Uh huh, the "mighty Honda" owner.. how retarded. I own a Honda as a daily driver, that's it. Do I care about telling you my history on Hondas? Not really - maybe I'm not as mighty of a Honda owner as you're thinking. I've only worked with them for 5 years, which is probably longer than you've been driving.

Your SR isn't unbeatable by a Honda, so please, don't act like you're going to have something for Honda enthusiasts to fear. Unless you're planning on going over 300whp, a 220whp N/A B18 Honda with an LSD is likely take you in a drag race everytime. I've seen it too many times.. on video and on the streets. SR's are rather pathetic in their stock form. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not putting them down. I would probably own one myself, the only thing stopping me is the fact that I can swap something into a 240 with 6 cylinders, which is why I'm on this forum. I'm not here to put Nissan enthusiast down, but when I see 240 owners get so upset over people that are driving 170whp Hondas, I can't help but see them as total idiots. The majority of them don't even drive Hondas, and likely haven't even sat behind the wheel of a decently fast one - turbo or not.

Don't be hurt about my post either.. it only makes you look more like an idiot. I don't think it's so worthless to tell you things you should already know.

Stomach the fact that Hondas can be faster than you and you'll probably go about your arrogant behavior a little bit easier.

By the way, just because someone is young doesn't mean they can't afford a 19k car. I saved up over 20k by the age of 17. My parents helped me out with nothing. Unless you know for sure this "young kid" isn't paying for his car, you should probably shut up.

[LSB_11]

well, dont we have alot to say. i have driven more cars then you could prolly think of, including a 355 spyder, 360 modena, and a lambo murciealago(SP). and i have also driven my freind si hatch with sleeved and forged internals, with a greddy kit pushing 20psi, so i know what a fast honda is. and i also know how many god damn little ricer hondas are out there. aslo have a friend with a 94 gsr turbo. im not acting like my sr is going to be unbeatable by any honda, one of the shops we go to built an 11.80 crx, all motor. i didnt start this post to dog on hondas, i think they have some of the best tech. on their vehicles. and i dont know many people who have achieved 220whp N/A. thats quite a huge statement, if i have been educated correctly, that is about all you can get without going full race or forced induction, i.e. non streatable.

i was never hurt by some little guy behind his computer ranting and raving about things i was joking about. and i dont know how i look like an idiot because of your post, but i guess im wrong again, maybe my car doesnt run 14.4's, but he kid said he ran 14.5, so i must be doing my ricer math correctly