My 560ZX ( Titan VK56DE powered 280ZX S130 ) Build Thread

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Here is my work in progress S130 560ZX. My goal in this is to have a bad a** Nissan late model V8, that is 100% daily driver friendly(total stock/sleeper look with no loss of daily driveability or creature comforts. I love this engine. It has huge ports, a large bore, over square design, 6 bolt mains, and has been extremely reliable. I also own a Titan. I was also tired of seeing this awesome engine only swapped into purpose built race cars with no driveability or accessories. This car will have cruise, ac, power steering, and all working gauges. I'm a swap purist and believe a Nissan chassis deserves a Nissan engine. Based on what I've seen, this may be the first VK into an S130 as well as the first fully functioning street car/dd VK56.
My warnings to those who would attempt this, it is not a brainless swap. Almost everything is one off and has to be built, fabbed, wired, programmed, etc... I would not recommend this swap in this chassis to anyone but the most knowledgeable. The engine is huge and difficult to fit. Clearance is tight around the accessories. The parts are all unique, and you'll need lots of patience and a place for this time consuming project to live. In retrospect, I should have just done a VQ35DE or RB26DETT, but that wouldn't have been as cool. Pros: big torque, solid engine combo, newer engine. Cons: difficult to get running, expensive, everything has to be fabbed. There are two basic options for this swap: 1-Use all Titan wiring and control units(ECM, BCM, IPDM) Which would also require use of the stock throttle chamber (DBW), pedal, auto trans, ABS, etc...; and 2-Aftermarket standalone ECM allows you to do anything to the engine's manifolding and requires minimal wiring. This also makes it easier to integrate into the vehicle's chassis wiring, as well as use a manual trans.
As far as power train mounting, there is no good spot for this engine in this chassis. You can go for oil pan clearance, lose hood clearance, and have to cut out part of the tunnel to get the drive line angle correct. Or, you can go for hood clearance(although not by a lot), build a lower pan, lay the upper pan almost on the steering rack, and have good drive line angles.

Right now all that I have left(hopefully) to get the car running is to finish the engine harness and integrate it into the S130's EFI harness.

SPECS
-Stock 2006 VK56DE
-Extrudabody Individual throttle bodies
-Custom adapter plate
-Custom engine mounts/trans mount
-Custom lower oil pan
-Stock 350z CD009 6sp trans
-Custom DSS aluminum driveshaft
-AEM 1050U with custom VK56/S130 harness
-CM Twin disc clutch
-Custom crank trigger setup
-Custom driveshaft speedo hall sensor
-Walbro 255lph pump
-Aeromotive Adjustable fpr
-Custom aluminum radiator and electric fan
-All custom fuel, coolant, p/s, a/c hoses, vacuum, clutch line
-Custom RMS fabrication headers
-Custom exhaust
-Lots and lots of misc custom brackets, hoses,etc...


Other vehicle specs:
1983 280ZX GL

DRIVELINE
-Stock R200 rear with new seals, bearings, and LSD
-Freshly rebuilt turbo CV axles and companion flanges

SUSPENSION AND STEERING
-New OE front and rear pads and rotors
-MSA stainless brake lines
-New OE tie rods, ball joints, and boots
-New OE steering rack bushings
-Energy suspension urethane front and rear control arm bushings
-Urethane rear subframe bushings
-New OE rear diff mount
-T3 front tension rods
-Bump steer spacers
-Suspension Techniques swaybars, mounts, urethane bushings
-Tokico struts and springs
-BFG tires/XXR wheels 225/50zr16 255/45ZR16


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This is going to be a beast. Glad to see people still thinking outside the box.

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Buttoned up the body wiring harness(starter, alternator, ac compressor, fans, battery, cruise, temp gauge, oil pressure gauge, etc...) tonight. Hopefully this weekend I can get started on the EFI harness, I've already stripped the L28 section out of it.

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Something you hardly see! a merged collector on a V8. :bigthumb:

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NICE!! love the itb setup. what flywheel are you going to use?

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Oh HELL yeah!

I can't wait to do a feature article on this car on the homepage! (hint hint)

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Hay I leave for a few months and now every body has a VK going into a s-chassis, bout time!! Lol!

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hellbilly66 wrote:NICE!! love the itb setup. what flywheel are you going to use?
I'm using the stock VK flexplate for the starter ring gear with a CM 350Z button clutch/flyweel bolted on top. 9th picture down.

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AZhitman wrote:Oh HELL yeah!

I can't wait to do a feature article on this car on the homepage! (hint hint)
I'll definitely let you know when it's running. The engine harness is in the works now.

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XJared wrote:
I'm using the stock VK flexplate for the starter ring gear with a CM 350Z button clutch/flyweel bolted on top. 9th picture down.
thats what it looked like you were doing but i wasnt sure. ive heard of the titan flexplate cracking, any worries about that?

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hellbilly66 wrote:
XJared wrote:
I'm using the stock VK flexplate for the starter ring gear with a CM 350Z button clutch/flyweel bolted on top. 9th picture down.
thats what it looked like you were doing but i wasnt sure. ive heard of the titan flexplate cracking, any worries about that?
Not really. For one, that was in the earlier years (04-05), and this engine is from an 06. And secondly, this flexplate won't be transferring any power since there won't be a torque convertor bolted to it. It's just in there for the ring gear, and after cranking, it's just along for the ride.

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Got started sorting out the engine harness over the weekend.

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now THAT'S a project!!!!

Subscribed. :popcorn:

Also, the wiring looks like a nightmare. Good luck.

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More harness building. Almost there.

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Found a few things that need immediate attention tonight, but excited about this:


http://youtu.be/gQhZxfqbR6Q

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Very impressive build ...... im also building a z32 with a vk56.... well planning on it lol. where are you located ???

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jthiani wrote:Very impressive build ...... im also building a z32 with a vk56.... well planning on it lol. where are you located ???
Florida

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very nice build. Love the work that is going into it! That wiring looks like fun. no wonder you needed to be drinking while doing it!!

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Drove the car out of the garage today for the first time. Gave it a bath for the first time in two years. Now it's headed to work for exhaust, alignment, and ac refrigerant. More detailed pictures and hopefully a better movie are forthcoming.

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I think greg summed it up with the

OH HELL YA!!!!

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Where in Florida are you?

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Tallahassee

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Just a quick update, I know it's been a while. Car is basically done except for the speedo(which is installed but not working, needs fixed), and the hood, which I'm building currently. New pics coming ASAP!

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Can't wait to see more!

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Thanks for the update.

Dont know how I missed this the first time around. Cant wait to hear what this thing sounds like!

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hannibal wrote:Cant wait to hear what this thing sounds like!

X2.

Gonna be a beast!

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Here's an update. I know it's been a while, but life did get in the way of this build for a while.
Anyway, I had to redo the cooling system because the engine sits higher than the radiator in the car. Also, haven't had time to fix the speedo yet. I am back on the hood. Trying to make the air cleaners fit under a hood of some sort.

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Are you going to be doing anything to shed a little fat?

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boatdude13 wrote:Are you going to be doing anything to shed a little fat?
No real need. The car doesn't weigh much to start, and I'm after daily driver, not stripped out race car.

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Would you mind turning on your PMs? I'm interested in chatting with you if you're still around.


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