Mustang vs. G35 coupe

[Barlow]

So lets say both are 05

G35 m6 vs Mustang Gt (5 speed)

I read a couple mustang forums and they all believe the mustang will smoke us due to the torque diff.... which i understand toa point.

Straight line i see the mustang win,

all other races, i just think the G would handle better, and therefore win.

SVTcobra.... how well do mustnags handle? you seem to be the local expert on this forum in terms of mustangs.

I'm down to a mustang GT, or a G35

so these cars have peaked my interest the most.

[zozoka1212]

IMO stang. But SVT will tell us for sure. Both stock.

zozo

[MinisterofDOOM]

I've driven both cars...sort of...and definitely, absolutely, without question prefer the G.

Granted, the Mustang I drove was a V6 auto, but it would take FAR more than more power and a manual transmission to bring the Mustang into the G35's realm.

The G is a much more refined car (and I don't just mean luxurious, I mean "not sloppy"). It feels tighter and communicates more to the driver.In contrast, the Mustang felt universally cheap. There was very little communication to the driver, and what the car did tell me was dulled through numb steering and pedal feel.Where the G was wonderfully obedient and went where I pointed it, driving the Mustang was like a tug-of-war. The car doesn't go where you point it...everything you do feels numb and delayed. The Mustang also understeers horribly (might be addressed in the GT...). The Mustang drives like it a much larger car than it is.

Aside from performance, there's the matter of build quality.The interior of the Mustang reminded me of one thing: Power Wheels toys.The interior of the G is MUCH nicer. While it's not on par with the rest of the Infiniti lineup as far as luxury, it IS attractive, well put-together, and well thought out. It is far more pleasant to look at than the Mustang's. Also, the Mustang has a lot of "for the sake of being nostalgic" crap that ends up being in the way...the way the dash flares back and up is irritating.

(I didn't realize you were referring to a member by name and not the car itself, but I'll leave this in here anyway)There is no SVT version of the '05+ Mustang. There IS the Cobra, though. But you won't be getting a Cobra for anywhere NEAR the price of a G (especially a used '05 G). The new Cobras (which are new '07 models, so you won't find any used '05s) are selling easily for $10k over their $40k MSRP. And from what I've read of them (never driven one) they're pretty disappointing...even ignoring the already ridiculous price point. The Cobra STILL handles like crap, and still has dull controls.

I'm a musclecar guy at heart, and I love big, rumbly V8s. But no amount of big, rumbly V8 will ever make the Mustang (at least in it's current iteration) as fun to drive as the G35.

One counterpoint I have to the above is that, at 6'4" I was VERY VERY thin on head room in the G35 (in the passenger seat my head actually touches the ceiling, fortunately the driver seat can be lowered a bit). In the Mustang I had plenty of head room.

[SVTCOBRA]

Doom is pretty dead on on most of what he says.I have no experience with the 05/06 other than the V6. My daughter wanted to test drive one (she had a G20) cause she wanted to trade for one. I didn't want her to cause I knew how much ezier the G20 was to drive. Stock mustangs (V6, GT's, Cobras) have soft springs and drive like crap. I think the new Mach's that I drove, drove the best.

Recently, she totaled her G in the rain. Again, she brought up the mustang. We did look at a 00, but she ended up picking a 00 Max SE instead. Much better quality of build. Much easier to drive. Much more reliable and should last thru college.Daddy is very happy!!!!!

With that said, the mustangs have a lot of potential with all of the aftermarket mods that are available. I had a 97 Cobra and installed Steeda sports springs/ CC plates, Cobra R's with 275/40/17s all around. The springs and CC plates cost around $600 and made the car drive unbelievably better!! It's what the factory should have done especially to the Cobra!With that $600 investment, I would put it put against any stock G.

I'm partial to the the Cobra. It has a very special hand built engine. Parts are imported from Italy (Heads & Block) and Germany (Crank). They are built on a special line by a two person team. 6 bolt mains.



Panoz puts the cobra engines in their cars.I'm also partial to the 96-98 versions due to body styling.

You have to understand where I came from to understand why I like my Cobra. My first car was a 1969 Mach 1.

If you look at the interior of the Mach, it's very similiar to my 96 cobra's. So, when I go out for a spin, it takes me back......

I would suggest checking out the Saleens. Ive driven a few (96-98) and they drive much better than the stock mustangs due to the suspension mods.

However, if you go test drive a stock mustang and a stock G coupe, I would be very surprised if you would still be considering the stock mustang afterwards.

I consider selling my cobra and G sedan monthly for a G Coupe!!!!

I was all over the G Coupe at the New Auto Show in Charlotte when they first came out! I wanted one then, and still want one, and will have one.

Sorry for the rambling, but bottom line is: drive both and you will pick the G.

[soul_hfk]

to me its power vs style kind of like SVT photo now thats style. u could of passed yourself off as a pimp ....... j/k SVT i love that pic

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[G_whizz]

Heyyyy now I know where I recognized you from SVT!!!

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Sorry SVT... I had to.

[joe603]

bwuaaaaa hahaaa! I don't care who you are, that's funny! (puffy shirt....I don't wanna be a pirate!)

[zozoka1212]

nice one G LMAO

SVT I love those pics.

Every time we talking about other cars makes me go out and get one.

zozo

[SVTCOBRA]

Puffy shirt!!! forgot about that episode!

I was on my way to pick up my gf for the prom......a few years ago

[zozoka1212]

Few years ago ha.

So are you serious about the trade? I know you've been thinking but there was always I guess the satisfaction with you sedan(s) vs your "dream".

zozo

[SVTCOBRA]

I would love to get a deal on an auto 04 G with about 50K that's in great condition & keep my cobra & sell my sedan so that the net effect on my payment is small enough to get by the wifey! I have been extremely pleased with the sedans!!! But, if there is a way to get a coupe too.....

[Gimli G35]

Ive always seen G and 350Z beating Mustangs, i dont know which weighs more.. but im thinking the Mustang...

SVT - at the photo, the car is

Isnt the mustang like a V-6-V-8 300HP car?

[SVTCOBRA]

Barlow,Check back in & let us know what you do with some pics!

Mustang Cobras93 5.0 V894-95 5.0 V896-98 4.6 V8 DOHC 305 HP stock99-01 4.6 V8 DOHC 320 HP stock (no 2000's were made)03-04 4.6 V8 DOHC SC 390-400+ stock

Yes, there are a BA-ZILLION mustangs out there.But, they only made around 5K cobras the first year and 14K was the most in one year.

In my opinion, the cobras were built in the same spirit as the Shelby's, special engines, suspension, hoods, bumpers, badging....

If you want something really special look for a Cobra R 1993 107 were made 5.0L1995 250 were made - had to have a SCCA license to purchase * 351W2003 300 were made 5.4L DOHCYou can usually find one on ebay for sale & to check out.

[SVTCOBRA]

Oh, almost forgot....get so excited talking cars... and my 96 Cobra convert weighs about 50 or 60 pounds more that a G coupe - depending on year and transmission of G. (1996 cobra coupe would weigh less than a G coupe by about 100 pounds.)

2005 Mustang GT Coupe would weigh less than a G by about 60 to 70 pounds.

[Onslaught31]

I have some experience with mustangs. I've driven 2004, 2005, and 2006. Including the new model GT. No comparison, the G35 coupe 6mt is faster. Even faster than the new model GT. a cobra would be a little faster, but still probably beaten in every performance aspect other than HP and torque. For this discussion though we're talking only about straight from the ford dealer kind of mustangs. No Roush's, cobra's, saleen's, etc.

Even in my STOCK 2003 sedan, I was the exact same speed as a 2006 mustang GT on the highway. When traffic would open up, we'd both take off and we'd be dead on the entire way. We both would max out at about 150mph. Not to mention, the mustang had some upgrades: exhaust, suspension tuning, etc. That's just what I could see.

No american car in the same class can compete with the G35. You'd have to pay at least $40k to have something faster than that.

[precision93]

Have you ever considered an 05-06 GTO. It has 400 horses stock and you can get one for @ $24k. The 04 GTO has 350 hp and you can get them for even less.

I considered getting one before I got my 06 G.

[redtop91]

I've raced both G's and Mustang GT's in my S13. It was a MUCH closer race with the GT.

[audtatious]

I want that '69 'Stang!!!!!!!!

[New2SR20]

I drove a 04 Cobra for a few months and i love it..it handled good, however it had great tires and 315's in the back but the car was stock, stock boost and everything, does 12.8's at the track all day and i loved everything about it minus the interior

[gwoods]

The new body style mustang should be even to 60' will beat you in the 1/4 by about 3 tenths if the driver knows what he is doing.

[gwoods]

The last time I had my Hemi ram at the track I raced a 99-02 Cobra. I beat him in the 1/8th and thought I had won when I got the slip he beat me by .003

It was funny. When we get to the line before the burn out box he kicked his woman out. I rolled down my window and shouted hey baby there is plenty of room in here for you. He yelled at her to get back in the car. I blew her a kiss an put on my helmet! Priceless.

[Barlow]

Hmm... no offense but this thread is saying different things unless i'm not reading right, the first few posts say the G will win, then the later posts say a mustang will destroy a G...

And yeah when i do finally get my car i will deff update this thread and introduce myslef again as either a mustang driver, or a G35 lover.....

which one will it be.....

Stay Tuned :P

[New2SR20]

i drove both a G35 coupe 6 speed..and a 04 cobra supercharged 6 speed...the cobra will..HANDS DOWN DESTROY a G35 in 1/4 mile....and probably be neck in neck in turns...i think u guys are under estimating the performance for a cobra just a bit..Barlow..go test drive both cars and see how u like them..after all..its all about what you like...

[SVTCOBRA]

I agree about the SC cobras.I do think there are a few mods (springs, gears) that you could do to a stock GT that would also beat a G straight line & curves.But, it still won't be a G. Totally different cars.

Yes, he needs to test drive both. Look at consumer reports on reliability.I believe that the 05 and 06 Mustangs are on their list of used cars to avoid. Personally, I would pic a slightly used cobra instead of a new GT. Personally, I would pic a G over the mustang too.

I also noticed that the target purchase price of NEW 07 G coupes dropped below 30K.......

[New2SR20]

Even i would buy a G35/350Z over a mustang...i like the styling a lot better, they are cheaper to buy used, waste less gas, just sexier over all in my eyes.

[Onslaught31]

The confusion is coming from the TYPE of mustange we're referring to. I said before, that I was limiting it to dealership mustangs (V6 and GT's only). And in my experience with the new GT, it was roughly the same speed as my sedan on the highway. Even if it's slightly faster from standstill, mine's still a sedan. The coupe with a manual transmission should beat the GT if both are stock.

And counting aftermarket, special editions, or modified mustangs is like saying the Lingenfelter Corvette with 1000hp counts as a corvette. No argument about cobra being faster, cobra is a solid car, one of the few remaining decent american sports cars.

[Onslaught31]

not to mention that now that the G37 is out, it's easily faster than a GT

[audtatious]

Not necessarily. Per mag tests it has roughtly the same 1/4 mile time as the new Altima Coupe with VQ35 and is just barely faster than the previous coupe.

[SVTCOBRA]

Barlow,Going back to your initial question05 G vs 05 GT - both STOCKPick the G.Better looks (imho)Better interiorBetter qualityBetter in the twistiesBetter reliabilityBetter resalestraight line? who cares, there is always somebody faster. You can mod either one to be faster than the other.They are both about the same weight , about the same HP, and about the same gears. So, it should be up to the driver as far as who's faster in a straight line anyway.Now, the internet says the mustang dranks reg gas and the G prefers prem. They appear to get about the same mpg (G slightly better).

Based on my 'expert' analysis , you should pick the stock 05 G over the stock 05 GT.

[soul_hfk]

+1 svt and the quality, reliability & better resale is the only reason i may not buy anything other then a Infiniti the next time i go car shopping