mr2 turbo? fast or not that fast?

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Is a mr2 turbo the newer body style(dunno what gen or year is it) fast? Because i raced one on the highway and i keep on losing him in traffic, but the thing is when he was in front of me he couldn't lose me in a straight high way with no car. My 91 240 base model is basically stock. - Dont' get me wrong here, i ain't being cocky or anything, but i always just thougth they were fast because they're small and i guess light and also with a turbo? "Pondering"

-Maybe he wasn't really stepping on it?


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Fast as hell 0-60, not a lot of top end.

He'd whup you in the 1/4 mile, but a good-running 240 will eventually catch up.

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^ what he said.. also mr2's could probably beat 240 *** on a course with lots of turns and curves. but i love 240's and i love dori....so :rolleyes

edit: i forgot ...if it was a turbo mr2...then yes...it would beat a 240 any time including top end speed as well.

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MR2T vs Silvia (sr20det) , Silvia hands down.

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well he didnt' outrun me..and we WERE racing...so...i dunno..

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s14sr20det wrote:MR2T vs Silvia (sr20det) , Silvia hands down.


mr2t stock? or with modified internals? i've seen some sick mr2t's...

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i don't know what he have under the hood cause i dont know the kid ..but it's a nice black mr2 with a turbo tag on the upper right side of his rear. It doesn't look like one of those rice out mr2, so i'm guessing he do really have a turbo in there. When i was racing him i have my music up and everything so i didn't have a chance to hear if he have a blow off valve or a turbo spool sound.

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s0ldats wrote:mr2t stock? or with modified internals? i've seen some sick mr2t's...


stock vs stock, Silvia hands down.modified vs modified .. all depends.

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What generation was it also. I think the best ones were the 2nd gen and they had the monster 3SGTE engine. If it was a non turbo than I think a bone stock 240 would probably beat it but not the turbo ones. I haven't really seen the 1st gen race but I know few came with superchargers and I know the current ones (3rd gen) are pretty slow.

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A bone-stock 240 might run with a N/A 1st-gen MR2 in the quarter mile.

An N/A 2nd-gen MR2 should beat a 240 in the quarter.

Both the S/C 1st gen and the turbo 2nd gen are 15-second cars.

On a road course, forget it unless the 240 is modded (a lot). Mid-engine is desireable for a reason.

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I know that MR2's are fast.....My friend has one that is pretty quick, but we cant get an exact time with his recent mods b/c he has no lisence right now. We are expecting it to be in the 12's, but u never know. His car could take out plenty of cars on the road, but there are always faster cars.

Check out the MR2 @ SpeedFactor.org

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umm a stock mr2 turbo gen3 i think will beat a gen3 rx7 in the quarter, ive seen it myself. trust me they are quick, but require a little more skill to drive cuz they are rear engine rear wheel drive so all the weight is in the back end, they are really easy to get squirrly

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This Turbo MR2 was bracket racing and broke out of a 13.9 with a 12.4, I was like WTF?!?

But anyway they are quick. It should have beaten you, even if it wasn't turb'd

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SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:umm a stock mr2 turbo gen3 i think will beat a gen3 rx7 in the quarter, ive seen it myself. trust me they are quick, but require a little more skill to drive cuz they are rear engine rear wheel drive so all the weight is in the back end, they are really easy to get squirrly


a 3rd gen mr2 being the model they're selling at dealers now right? if so, there was never a stock turbo on the 3rd gen mr2.

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yea there are no factory turbo'ed 3rd gen MR2's. just 2nd gen, and maybe 1st. dont kno much about the 1st gen MR2's.

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95silviase wrote:yea there are no factory turbo'ed 3rd gen MR2's. just 2nd gen, and maybe 1st. dont kno much about the 1st gen MR2's.


no stock mk1 turbo..only mk1 supercharged

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supercharged, thats it. i thought somewhere in my mind, that 1st gen MR2 had force feeding.

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well superchargers are a form of forced induction..right?

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2nd gen. turbo MR2's will kill any N/A 240sx's.End of debate.

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any stock mr2 turbo will kill any stock 240sx end of story..

also there is a 3rd gen turboin japan the mr2 has never went out of productionand in 96 they introduced the 3rd gen mr2 in japanwhich looks the same as our 94+ mr2s in america with few minor differnces, but it came with a bigger turbo CT20B that's capable of 350RWHP, the 3sgte motor in the turbo mr2s are amazing though, iorn block, 440injectors stock, it's a strong nice *** motor..

here's a pic of my friends 94 MR2, the only differnce visible in this pic of his car and a 96+ mr2 turbo is clear corners, which his car has the JDM clear corners now, he also got the CT20B turbo off a 3rd gen mr2, so his car definetly ain't a slug u can hit high 11's with the CT20B but these mr2s where sold till 99' in japanthen in 2000 the 4th gen was released for them.. which is our U.S. 3rd gen.. the n/a spyder.


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rollhard had a mean looking one. ask ih8urdsm

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so the pic up there would consider our 3rd gen? or 2nd gen? kinda confuse here...

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I love mr2's, i always wanted one, but they to hard to find specialy the stock turbocharge edition.

but how about eagle talons, my friend onws one, and i raced him three time, and i beat him, all tho my car has headers, and his is bone stock, but turbo. i was suprise when i beat him.

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that pic up there is our 2nd gen, "just another 240."

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yah...dont knock the MR...i almost bought one before i found Naomi (my S14). That car was a lot of fun on the test drive. Once boost hit at around 4K, it's a rocket. Feels a lot more than the KA..hopefully the SR will change that. I would have bought the MR but that much weight in the rear, RWD, and my ham fisted driving wouldnt mix well....

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Just another 240 wrote:so the pic up there would consider our 3rd gen? or 2nd gen? kinda confuse here...


K that pic of there of my friends car is a 94 2nd gen, buuut 95 was the last year they sold the mr2 in america in japan 96 to 99 is called there "3rd gen" but it uses the same body and chasis as the 2nd gen pictured above

so in japan the 2nd and 3rd gen looked exactly the same.. and there 4th gen was our non turbo spyder like we have in the u.s and call 3rd gens

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so what is the standing on a mr2 turbo vs a japanese silvia or 240sx with sr swap?

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chrispy wrote:so what is the standing on a mr2 turbo vs a japanese silvia or 240sx with sr swap?


The two engines (SR20, 3SGTE) are pretty similar from what i have read. I also read MR2's can produce lots of torque. I don't remember where i read that though. I found some of the specs for these and everything looks pretty even.

http://www.parts.msiracing.com.au/webcontent3.htm

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Jgar240 wrote:The two engines (SR20, 3SGTE) are pretty similar from what i have read. I also read MR2's can produce lots of torque. I don't remember where i read that though. I found some of the specs for these and everything looks pretty even.

http://www.parts.msiracing.com.au/webcontent3.htm


yup that's about right, my friends 94 mr2 turbo in the pic above when he just had a apexi intake hiper catback exhaust and a manual boost controller set to 15psi he dyno'd191hp and 206tq torque kicks in at about 3k and pulls to redline almost..

i would say a S13 with SR20DET and a MR2Turbo would be a pretty good race they make about the same power, the mr2 turbo weighs about 2800lbs or 2900lbs so it's very close there too... the MR2 would have an advantage from a dead stop since they come off the line like a AWD car, on the HWY the SR would probably do better against the mr2..

SR20DET and the 3sgte are similar and not similar i love the 3sgte for the fact it's a iorn block and has the big 440injectors it can handle alot of boost, with my friends upgraded turbo and intercooler it should be fine for him to run 20lbs of boost with 116octane for passes at the dragstrip and keep it around 15 to 16psi for daily driving on 93octane..

i would say silvia's/180sxs and mr2's are definetly both in the same class of cars, of course the MR2 kinda sucks for drifting and stuff like that, and i know S13s actually have a sharper turning circle then a MR2 i thought that was, but both are great cars, i'd take a mr2 turbo in a heart beat, the 93 to 95's are the best ones to get but harder to find for sure.. the 94+mr2s have cooler brake lights almost like the round kouki brake lights on the later 180sx's..

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I own an 92 mr2t and I will tell you that this car is fast as all hell when driven properly. They launch great since all of the weight of the motor is over the rear wheels. The gen 2 in the u.s is the same as in Japan and was sold there until 99, the term gen 3 was for the generation of the 3sgte which was used in Japan after 94 and produces 245+ hp stock and came with 550 injectors, slightly different internals and a larger turbo the ct20b. The mr2 in the us only came with the gen 2 3sgte since stock power from the new engine would put the mr2 in stock contention with the supra which cost 10k dollars more. The gen 2 is also an excellent but the ct 26 turbo runs out of breath around 5300 rpm and power tapers off. I have a j-spec engine in my car and it has a ceramic ct 26 on it which is very nice because it starts to spool around 2000 rpms and I rarely have to rev over 4200 rpms. These are excellent cars if you can find them but are very expensive and you can expect to pay 7-12 for an early model in decent condition. One more thing, these car were extremely over built, the transmission and drive trans can handle up to 500 hp without any modification and the stock internals can handle up to 300 rear wheel horsepower. These car were also hand built at a yamaha factory in Japan.


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