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sultan
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ChunkiDori wrote:I turned up an interesting tidbit of info on another forum about that MR2.

It's slightly less than stock.... motored. It has a supercharged V6 Solara under the 'trunk' hahaha. He got rid of the only good thing about MR2's. what a shame.

I still stand behind S chassis >>>>> MR2.
did you miss my earlier post where i stated what he had under the trunk?


elbles
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Believe me, a NA MR2 stock will beat a NA S13/S14 stock around a set of corners, no question. They don't oversteer much at all; in fact, the rear on those cars will stick a whole lot better and later than the rear would on one of our 240's; the problem is that once you get the rear to come out on a MR car, the momentum in the rear-end of the car is harder to control than it is in ours. There is a reason that cars such as the Porsche Carrera GT, Enzo, Elise, etc are all mid-engined, rear-wheel drive cars . . .

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Sircnay wrote:
And drifting... isn't drifting an oversteering sport? Why wouldn't you want a car that already oversteers?


mr2s oversteer like ****. snap off the throttle, loop. use even the tinyest bit too much of throttle, loop. my friends brother had one of thoes, it spun into a lightpole and he died. bull**** about them handling better, they have slightly better turn in, other then that, BARF. this is mk2 of course. mk2 are freaking sloppy. i hate thoes cars. wheel base hella shorter than a s14 but same weight, TERRIBLE. oh yea, mapherson rear, ahhahahaah

mk1 is a different story, mk1 = cheap lotus elise.

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It's all in the driver. Give a 240SX (a car we all believe to handle very well, even in stock form) to a driver who is concerned good behind the wheel of a "high-performance" FWD car, such as a ITR, and see what happens when the car starts to oversteer in a corner; chances are, they'll react wrong (assuming they know nothing about a car). If someone has a MR2, and they encounter oversteer, they can recover; yes, it's more tricky than it would would be in our cars, but the limit is also considerably higher. To be rewarded for that, you must have the skill to deal with it at it's limit. If you don't possess that skill, then maybe you shouldn't be driving that car (this applies to any car). It's just the way that car is, most MR cars are, and F1 drivers sure don't seem to have a problem with it. ;-)

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mr2 engine mounted in the rear = gimmick, selling point

f1 engine mounted in the rear $290120983901209812 dollars of engineering

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Lotus Elise: Mid-engine design . . . gimmick/selling point? Hell no, it helps to make it one of the best-handling cars on the planet, if not the best-handling car. Same is true for the Carerra GT, Enzo, Boxster, and many others. The MR2 did it for the handling aspect . . . drive one around a corner that you're familar with, and you'll see its limits are substantially higher stock than quite a few modded 240's.

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Lotus Elise: Mid-engine design . . . gimmick/selling point? Hell no, it helps to make it one of the best-handling cars on the planet, if not the best-handling car. Same is true for the Carerra GT, Enzo, Boxster, and many others. The MR2 did it for the handling aspect . . . drive one around a corner that you're familar with, and you'll see its limits are substantially higher stock than quite a few modded 240's.

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lotus elise =/ 2800 lbs

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Porsche Carrera GT : 3,146 lbs, according to Car & Driver. Your point?

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sultan wrote:did you miss my earlier post where i stated what he had under the trunk?


yeah, i did. my mistake.

and there is no comparing an MR2 to an exotic. The only thing they share is the fact that they have no engine under the hood.

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I wasn't saying a MR2 is an exotic, and it doesn't come setup to run with an exotic from the factory, but with some suspension tuning, it (like the 240) can beat some pretty amazing cars on a track; however, it doesn't require as much work as a 240 would to beat the same sort of cars. It is the MR layout that gives it this ability.


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