Moved: Drifting with Helical LSD?

[Didderson]

Didn't mean to bump a really old thread buuut, I felt the website i added provides an even more 'noob friendly' explanation of the HLSD.

Red coupe, I believe he did contradict himself, because Torsen stands for torque sensing, when it senses less grip, it gradually puts more torque on the other wheel w/ grip (if i understand it) you can get them both to spin, it would be a little wierd though because the one wheel would spin, then the opposite would lose traction and the first might not slip anymore, so I'm assuming it would be like a teeter totter between the wheels until eventually the teeter totter evened out and both got around the same. But that takes time, which is why most guys say they're unpredictable.Just another site for reference:http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential6.htm

[White Comet]

someone else reviving old threads? do i have competition?

[naed240sx]

you can get them both to spin, it would be a little wierd though because the one wheel would spin, then the opposite would lose traction and the first might not slip anymore, so I'm assuming it would be like a teeter totter between the wheels until eventually the teeter totter evened out and both got around the same. But that takes time, which is why most guys say they're unpredictable.Just another site for reference:http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential6.htm

This isn't true at all. Helicals are very smooth in operation. What people don't realize is that you don't actually need ANY tire slip for it to work. It is constantly biasing torque, even with no wheel slip. Because of this, you never spin just one wheel. Helicals allow perfect launches as well as extremely quick cornering.

[White Comet]

didderson's right next to me at my place (we tight.... but not like that!) and says thanks. he already went ahead and ordered one. looking forward to grip

[Chukidori]

I think i just read the stupidest **** ever to be put on a forum.

I perfer just alittle understeer but thats my prefrence. I have been racing for years and drifting before i even knew what it was. I have either been in a garage or at a race track since i can remember and that is some of the most ubsurd **** i have ever heard. its all about balance and technique not masive springs and ****y tires.

O and alot of good drifters perfer a roadcourse sutup.

I agree with this guy.

An ideal road course setup would have a Neutral car (excluding driver preference). Neither prone to under steer, or oversteer unless its initiated by the driver. Otherwise all four wheels tend to loose traction at the same or close to the same rate. This is better for over all grip, and its much more predictable and versatile, so you can race with it...OR drift with it.

Changing between drift and race is just as simple as changing your driving style at this point.


Modified by Chukidori at 6:55 AM 6/29/2007

[turbomikeAEZ]

Hey guys:

I guess I'm reviving this thread for the 2nd time...

Have any of you tried to drag with an HLSD?

I'm thinking about getting a JDM HLSD for use in my Z to replace the stock vLSD, but have not heard whether they are good for drag launches.

Thanks.

[Red coupe]

never tried it my self, but I imagine they would be damn good for drag...I mean at least better then vlsd and more reliable then a used clutch type...

Then again I must admit I'm bias (omg the helical puns!)

[sidewaizdaze]

i own a s14 with a rb25 and it has an s15 helical and i hate it for drifting.. the helical lsd is torque sensitive which means its locking behavior is based on torque input from the drive shaft which is all and well when on the throttle, but as soon and you lift or go to shift gears it opens up causing it to behave like an open differential and essentially puts an end to your slide. on a positive note the s15 lsd is completely awesome for any grip driving you want to do.

hopefully this was helpful. good luck.