m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (56k = death)

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Well I will be honest.Idk for sure, but I have heard other people from this forum and other forums that it does use Unlimited Bandwidth.

But I am sure a email to Tom or a look at Myspace's policy would do the trick


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can you pls tell me all the part numbers for the radiator support thanks i just had a car accident and remember of this thread,
Modified by BIGTIMER_240 at 6:32 PM 8/7/2008

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hey what happend to all the other pics? in the thread

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BIGTIMER_240 wrote:can you pls tell me all the part numbers for the radiator support thanks i just had a car accident and remember of this thread,
lower support: 62530-53F25upper support (89-90): 62510-40F00upper support (91-93): 62510-53F00 (has the reinforcement pieces)

if you just want the entire front core: 62500-53F00 (upper support has the reinforcement pieces)

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xckid wrote:hey what happend to all the other pics? in the thread
m tr4nch wrote:and yeah looks like i hit the bandwidth limit on my photobucket :/ which will get reset on the 10th since i don't feel like spending any money on their pro account.
so anyways.. i did a quick search on google for por-15 and rustbullet, and apparently i'm not the only one having this problem of the rust coming back from using rustbullet .. so i will be getting some por-15 and using that for whatever else i have left

pisses me off though that i had to find this out now after already using it hopefully i can just patch up those areas that are showing rust-through (with my remaining rustbullet) and spray some rubberized undercoating over it so no air/moisture can do that again.

and if worse comes to worse i will just strip the rustbullet off the places i sandblasted and recoat with por-15. hopefully i won't have to go through all that though.

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hmm.... well i ordered some rustbullet a couple days ago for my 240 project and my truck frame. thats weird that rust would be forming on/coming through the rust bullet. maybe i'll look into doing a coat of a zinc primer first. i was thinking eventually getting all the areas coated with rust bullet top coated with something like eastwood's ceramic rust inhibitor for a harder and better looking satin black finish... that stuff looks indestructible.

good luck man. keep up the good work

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thanks alot oh and your project

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ohhhh bandwith ftl

must have read over that ....my bad keep up the good work!

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That's disappointing news about the rust bullet I used it on my floor boards but I think I'll use something else for the wheel wells and engine bay. Zinc primer is supposed to be good **** they use it a lot in commercial construction to coat welds since the actual weld bead is the first place rust is going to start.

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just sand the rusted areas i guess.. and coat por15 over it....i was so close to buying rust bullet.. well we all learned a lesson this time.. DONT GIVE UP... you put lots of work and effort already... keep doing what you are doing...

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OP,

You are indeed a madman. It's too soon to be performing ground-ups on an S13. If it were a 240Z or a 510 I'd understand. That is not to say I'm not blown away by your patience and aptitude, I'm just saying I'd have a difficult time placating you if you told me you were perfectly sane.

p.s. I use Bill Hirsch rust-stopping paint and it sometimes does something similar. The rust continues to form and it cracks open the surface of the paint a week after it cured. But that's usually an indication that what I'm painting over isn't the complete source of the problem.

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awsome build man, you pay attention to detail like you have been doing this for years.

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dude welcome in the insane club but you deserve the title of the insaniest ! damn man it must have cost you a buttload of money!!!

its pretty much as rusted as mine was!! nice results so far!! keep it up!!

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why didnt you acid dip the whole car. would have gotten rid of the rust,seam sealer and undercaoting ****. this is after you stripped every last piece of metal plating and everything.

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well, maybe i'm an idiot or i didn't do enough reading/searching before, but i figured out that after sandblasting i should have used some kind of metal prep on the bare metal before painting with rustbullet or any other rust stopping paint. i thought the 3m adhesive/wax/mark remover would be enough but apparently not. i came across this stuff picklex20 and got a spray bottle. seems to be working really well so far.

also in my researching, i came across this thread Rust Preventive Product Test and what it shows is that rust bullet, por-15, eastwood, masterseries, etc. all basically do the same thing and perform similarly.

i bought some masterseries silver, satin black, and gloss black to use on the parts i have left to do. check it: masterseries


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Neil wrote:OP,

You are indeed a madman. It's too soon to be performing ground-ups on an S13. If it were a 240Z or a 510 I'd understand. That is not to say I'm not blown away by your patience and aptitude, I'm just saying I'd have a difficult time placating you if you told me you were perfectly sane.
yeah i know i'm nuts haha. thanks for the compliments.
GOnissanTOM wrote:awsome build man, you pay attention to detail like you have been doing this for years.
thanks!
ca20det wrote:dude welcome in the insane club but you deserve the title of the insaniest ! damn man it must have cost you a buttload of money!!!

its pretty much as rusted as mine was!! nice results so far!! keep it up!!
haha yeah man! thanks for checking my thread out, you definitely are beating me with getting sh*t done though haha.
Huncity240 wrote:why didnt you acid dip the whole car. would have gotten rid of the rust,seam sealer and undercaoting ****. this is after you stripped every last piece of metal plating and everything.
i thought about doing this a long time ago actually. but it's pretty expensive, and it's a lot easier said than done. there's a lot of work you'd have to do afterwards to get all the metal coated again... ALL of it. so i went this route instead.

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after battling rust on my coupe during its restoration this past winter... i found spots that are rerusting under my undercoat... i was just as pissed as you are now... so now i gotta throw her in the air again, strip it back down... and redo it

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What kind of welding are you doing?

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isnt there another dip that they put the car in thats a coating and you have to take it off for paint and undercoat so its pretty much just in the frame rails and stuff. Idk man i know its expensive but the idea of 100% zero rust is awsomw. like if you miss one tiny little spot in the frame rails or something its all just gunna come back later. props tho this is amazing thread.

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youre crazy with the oem nissan ****!

i know that those paddle combo switch lights are 200$ and you have so much oem stuff!

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Your build is inspiring to continue to push through the rust and junk i find on my build. You have any pics of the new sections of frame rails you welded in?

Thanks Nick

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this thread is down right amazing. this is exactly what i want to do to a s13. tear it down fix everything, start rebuilding it then have fun w/ it. you are doing an amazing job at everything. is anybody helping you with this? i know you said youve done it all by yourself but i didnt know if your dad or someone else helped ya out alot.

this is especially sweet because you are doing everything correctly. Where are you doing it all? in your garage?

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that is some true dedication right there, well anyways im about to get an s13 240, so can anyone tell me should i be expecting some major rust problems, cause i heard thats what 240's were known to have

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mrgreeneyes wrote:after battling rust on my coupe during its restoration this past winter... i found spots that are rerusting under my undercoat... i was just as pissed as you are now... so now i gotta throw her in the air again, strip it back down... and redo it
def. does suck
DruidAT wrote:What kind of welding are you doing?
mig
s13gebala wrote:youre crazy with the oem nissan ****!

i know that those paddle combo switch lights are 200$ and you have so much oem stuff!
hahaha. i just made another order from nissan actually. should be here in a few weeks
n.r.wyatt wrote:Your build is inspiring to continue to push through the rust and junk i find on my build. You have any pics of the new sections of frame rails you welded in?

Thanks Nick
thanks man. glad to be inspiring i actually haven't got to replacing those pieces of frame rails yet. will definitely post pics when i do (as usual).
sldewyz wrote:this thread is down right amazing. this is exactly what i want to do to a s13. tear it down fix everything, start rebuilding it then have fun w/ it. you are doing an amazing job at everything. is anybody helping you with this? i know you said youve done it all by yourself but i didnt know if your dad or someone else helped ya out alot.

this is especially sweet because you are doing everything correctly. Where are you doing it all? in your garage?
thanks so far everything up to this point has been done only by myself. my dad helped me out with the dolly and loaning me some of his tools every once in a while, but all the car related work has only been done by me. and yes, it all goes down in my garage.
S13_love wrote:that is some true dedication right there, well anyways im about to get an s13 240, so can anyone tell me should i be expecting some major rust problems, cause i heard thats what 240's were known to have
depends on where you live, how the previous owner(s) took care of the car, etc. imo, look over the car really good before you make any decisions, especially underneath. if some pieces of the suspension are rusty and the actual chassis is good, i would still get it. those kinds of parts can be easily replaced. but cutting/welding on the chassis is a lot harder obviously. just do some looking around for the right one and be patient.

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where do you get your oem parts? i need some frame parts to be replaced on my kouki.

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You are out of your mind man, i support you but than its like. What are your plans for this car are you going to keep it forever or something?

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god bless your 240

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any updates?

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the is probably the most in depth and ridiculous build ever.

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