Lowering the car

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vikesfankevin1986 wrote:This is SZ's kit
https://specialtyz.com/shop/300zx/braki ... e-kit.html

Do you think that isn't worth it?
What about something like this...
http://www.importpartspro.com/sttest1brup.html

If I add up front and rear rotors, the brake lines, and the front and rear breaks of the brands you suggested it comes out to around 670 bucks...That still isn't that cheap. The SZ kit is 200 more. Do you think its worth it? How long can I plan on the rotors and stuff lasting?
If you wanna keep stock wheels, the SZ kit isn't a bad option if you can afford the 2-piece rotor. Otherwise, the new fluid, 300° brace and stainless lines combined with a Hawk HPS or Axxis Metal Master pad with new Brembo (real, not the Z1 crap) stock sized rotors will do just fine for street use. OEM sized stuff, figure about 30k street driven miles.

Repeated hard stops, i.e., track use, you'll want a larger, 2-piece rotor system. I'd steer clear of the Crapabono until a reasonably priced 2-piece rotor is available. Something that large def needs to be 2-piece.


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vikesfankevin1986 wrote:I should get a civic and keep the motor bone stock but lower it and upgrade the brakes and tell people its a fast car because it has better suspension and aero...
EG6 actually has pretty power to weight ratio ;)

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Initial R wrote:
vikesfankevin1986 wrote:I should get a civic and keep the motor bone stock but lower it and upgrade the brakes and tell people its a fast car because it has better suspension and aero...
EG6 actually has pretty power to weight ratio ;)
Yea well so does a lawn mower but I'm not trying to turn one into a quarter mile machine. A little civic with some suspension work done doesn't scare me. You throw an upgraded integra motor in it I might worry about it but I think that would qualify as an "engine modification."

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how bout a fully gutted hatch with a k20 swap....those things are insane...

ne way vikes....first not being rude but calm down buddy haha...for you i would go with these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKICO-S ... ccessories

have a friend bought them installed them in one day and all he has other then that is front upper control arms and its not to low but the wheel gap is gone and looks so much sleeker and the body roll in his car seems non existent compared to mine haha....

i remember your first few post on here....you were mad about your friends mustang being checked out more then your z.....you would be suprised how this little drop will make your car stand out SO much more.

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I do plan on doing it and I know they make it look better but I would still rather blow someone away so that's my first plan of attack. The body of my car doesn't look great now so I'm not super worried about lowering it. I mean if you make a piece of s*** lower it's still a piece of s***...I plan on doing everything but I need to do 1 thing at a time.

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ok...just giving advice on lowering your car since you started a thread about.... "Lowering the car".

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ffrpwner wrote:ok...just giving advice on lowering your car since you started a thread about.... "Lowering the car".
LOL, exactly.

However, the Tokico blues are non-adjustable, basically NA OEM replacement level parts. IMHO, if you're going the spring/strut route, the KYB AGX or Tokico Illumina and Eibach springs is a good combo. Both of those struts are adjustable; Tokico's from above, KYB from the side under the car.

Lower than the Eibachs are the RSR springs, which are out of production and difficult to find. Tein may also make something for our cars, which would be lower than the Eibachs, but just be aware of the fake Tein stuff on eBay.

This guy likes the NA OEM springs on TT struts

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vikesfankevin1986 wrote: I mean if you make a piece of s*** lower it's still a piece of s***.
:rotfl

well.....making a POS faster is like strapping a rocket to a piece of dog s*** no matter how fast you make it...itll still be a POS....


lol not a shot at you just that reminded me of that joke ha.

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Just within 24 hours, the thread went from "What do I use to lower my car?" to "Why the f*** do I need to lower my car?" to "dog s*** flying". NICO is interesting. Sometimes I wonder why the hell I bothered to participate in a thread at all lol.

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Initial R wrote:Just within 24 hours, the thread went from "What do I use to lower my car?" to "Why the f*** do I need to lower my car?" to "dog s*** flying". NICO is interesting. Sometimes I wonder why the hell I bothered to participate in a thread at all lol.
^^^Exactly, but it's not all of NICO thankfully... just certain ppl's threads. There is a bit of a learning curve. But some ppl just don't get it even after being on here regularly for a nearly a year or so. Its about making good use of your resources, like the 'search' bar...

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simmode1 wrote:
Initial R wrote:Just within 24 hours, the thread went from "What do I use to lower my car?" to "Why the f*** do I need to lower my car?" to "dog s*** flying". NICO is interesting. Sometimes I wonder why the hell I bothered to participate in a thread at all lol.
^^^Exactly, but it's not all of NICO thankfully... just certain ppl's threads. There is a bit of a learning curve. But some ppl just don't get it even after being on here regularly for a nearly a year or so. Its about making good use of your resources, like the 'search' bar...
Wow man, your sig...

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Initial R wrote:

IPP and SZ are good brand. Half of Z32 owners on here would swear by Powertrix. I personally swear by Godspeed. Decide for yourself :rotfl


i don't think ipp and specialty-z make suspension products --- specifically coilovers? it's either powertrix or spl. you can get godspeed also, if that's your style.

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Initial R wrote: IPP and SZ are good brand. Half of Z32 owners on here would swear by Powertrix. I personally swear by Godspeed. Decide for yourself :rotfl
Meh, not a company I would support. They don't really do anything for the Z community as a whole, and their stuff is still peddled through eBay.

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I did want advice about lowering the car but then ***holes like simmode1 come in here and give me s*** because I don't spell out every single little word for them. You think I don't understand that suspension helps performance? I never see simmode telling people how great their handling is going to be now...all he ever does is b**** about how flush the s*** is.
For now on I will try to spell out every single little thing so idiots like simmode1 can understand them...let me give it a try
I have not looked into suspension stuff or lowering my car yet. It is not at the top of my list of plans for my car. The reason for that is I do not track or drag my car and the stock suspension works just fine on the road. When the car is purely a track or drag car I will be more concerned with it. I have only looked into ENGINE performance stuff because that is what adds horsepower and makes the car go faster in a straight line. That is what I want for my car right now. I want to see numbers on the dyno and I want it to go fast in a straight line. Lowering the car is not going to add numbers on the dyno and it isn't going to make my car faster than my friends Mustang. I am not trying to play battle of the supercars.
Do I need to explain anything else out in more detail or can you guys think for yourselves and figure it out?

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es.biggs wrote:Wow man, your sig...

:tisk:
I had to, man. I had to. It was too classic. :chuckle:

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You would enjoy your z so much more if you wernt in constant competition with your friends mustang....theres always gunna be a faster car im sorry to tell you unless you plan on droping 30-80k on your z then your always gunna find a faster car on the road. From the way you talk you should just get a dd and make your car a project....and what does your friend do to his mustang he must put alot of money into it cause i raced a 2010 mustang with an exaust and intake...he was some cocky ***hole who probably put less then 1k on his car so far and i blew his doors off.....

You shouldnt even of started this thread imo because your alittle to wrapped up in the speed aspect when you cant just accept that you have a pretty damn quick car already....say you get to 400hp on stock turbos...then your friend gets some aggressive cams and a good tune uh oh hes got 410 hp now or something thats faster you now have to put out another 3k to upgrade turbos probably more since you get all your work done at the shop...


Im trying to save you some heart ache here unless your prepared to invest some big money into this car you will never be happy

oh and you said you only look at ENGINE mods....how bout driveshafts or sub frame bushings or tires....all which will help get more power to the wheels....keep you from having wheel hop and be able to hold grip so your not spinning through all your gears.....when trying to get your car faster you need to pay attention to things other then power adders...

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+1 subframe and even the diff bushings play a big role. Both mine are shot, I band-aid fixed the subframe bushings with spacers and that made a big difference. I plan on doing the diff bushings in the next week or two.

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I know there will always be a faster car but that doesn't mean I can try to reach a certain point with mine. I already got new tires to help with traction and I did subframe bushings when I got my clutch and DPs done. Driveshaft is next on my list. It was between that and TPs but I went with the TPs first for the simple reason I wanted to finish off the exhaust. I'm not as clueless as you make me out to be. Sorry I wasn't exactly specific when I posted. I assumed people would know what I meant but then again I know what people say about assuming...

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vikesfankevin1986 wrote:I never see simmode telling people how great their handling is going to be now...all he ever does is b**** about how flush the s*** is.
And I never will (at least not for Z32's). I'll defer to experts like Artic_Dragon, Z32TT, Z-Owned or etc. I only comment on what looks good to me...

Clearly, to some ppl...
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