lowering kit.. camber problems

[kylekinnamon1989]

i have like a 2 in or so lowering kit on my s13 and my camber is pretty bad.. it really f*cks up all my tires so i was wonder what i need to get to fix the camber problem.. i know i need a camber kit but i dont really know what to look for. upper and lower control arms? tenstion rods? please help.. dont think it really matters but i have kyb struts and shocks and ksport springs.

[martins_240sx]

The rear suspension has adjustable camber. 2inch drop should be almost fixable without a camber kit.

[SullivanRacing06]

get this thing called a alignment! no aftermarket parts should be added for a 2in drop! were you rrear control arms meet the rear subframe the bolts twist thatll adjust your camber

[Cone Junky]

If it wasn't aligned after the suspension install all your angles are screwing with your tire wear.

But if you need more camber adjustment than the factory gives with the eccentrics, there are options.

Cheap and easy for the front are camber bolts ($20 on ebay)Putting on an adjustable upper control arm (RUCA) will give you more than enough camber adjustment for the rear.Tensions rods are used to adjust caster, but you may need those also because there is no adjustment available from the factory.

[kylekinnamon1989]

yeah. i bought the car of a friends and he had just put them on.. i highly doubt he aligned them, well obviously he didn't but yeah, my tires are all bowed in and about an inch or 2 on the inside of the tire gets completely wore while the rest of the time is completely good.. thanks for your help

[IanS]

You need an alignment, not a camber kit.

Im running nearly 3 degrees of negative camber with no adverse tire wear, because my alignment is set properly.

To give you an idea, I think I dropped around 4" with my coils.

[240Chris]

I just installed my front coils and i have crazy negative front camber, do u have rear adjustable arms?... and would an alignment fix my camber prob w/o adjustable arms? ...also had to set coils at stock height for stock s13 se wheels & tires not to rub in front...

[martins_240sx]

what kinda coils are you running? they usually come with camber plates for the fronts.

[240Chris]

megans... i hope this isnt a prob w/ megans... and yes i set the camber plate to as much positive camber as possible

[martins_240sx]

I have megans and Mine is dumped and I have no problem with camber. I can have mine sitting like a super beetle if I wanted to.

[240Chris]

did you have to adjust the camber plate position or anything?...or is it supposed to be slanted?

[IanS]

did you have to adjust the camber plate position or anything?...or is it supposed to be slanted?

How much camber do you want/need?

You should set your camber based on tire clearance and driving habits. I would suggest having the car alligned at a race alignment shop. Lowering the car will have skewed every angle, and a normal alignment will only cover toe.

[240Chris]

only one or two degrees of negative.... but for some reason the camber plates can't bring it back to that.... and i set the coils back at stockish height to keep tires from rubbing... btw when talking about the camber plates being slanted.... i meant how they are attached to the actual body of the shock/coil...they're far from being perpendicular to the shock, do i have to undo the top middle bolt and fix that? i think that's my prob - look at the front coil camber plate
Modified by 240Chris at 11:10 PM 12/7/2008

[martins_240sx]

there are 4 allen bolts at the top of each coil if you loosen those you can slide the pillow mount to make the camber adjustment. iirc there are 6 holes counting the two that are already filled by the allen bolts. in order to change the camber more drastically you must reposition those allen bolts into the other holes. but I agree with flatblack in getting your alignment done. are these the street or track megans? also the 2 mounting bolts on the hub/spindle, try loosening those and pull the hub assembly towards you. there is slight play but that slight play can make all the difference. with my tein super driftos that is the diference between my rim rubing the coil or not.

[240Chris]

streets... i already moved the bolts on the plates to get full positive camber tho.. thanx ill try moving the hub and yeah ill be getting an alignment soon... tomorow ill see what i can do... check my prev post (edited)
Modified by 240Chris at 11:15 PM 12/7/2008

[tramp_drift240]

IS THAT PICTURE OF YOUR CAR?

my lord, what the hell did you do. install the thing backwards or something? jeez louise. we need a bigger picture, and perhaps one without the wheel on.

[martins_240sx]

holy ****y.....you need to take the wheel of and start taking some pics. oh and that top piece that isnt perpindicular is supposed to swivel...you should be able to move it.

[240Chris]

puts yokota to shame right? lol... yeh it doesn't swivel so im going to loosen that top bolt right after i call megan just incase...

[IanS]

Wow, thats a lot of camber.

The pillow balls will be a little stiff when new. Even if it is crooked, it would not be able to cause the camber isses you have.

The only thing that could cause that kind of camber would be a missing upright bolt, or a bent strut/knuckle.

Do you have eccentric bolts in the uprights?

[240Chris]

ok sorry i brought this up, but prob fixed... all my fault stupid stupid.. anyway, when i installed the coil in the night i assumed i got the lower coil bolts in correctly but i really missed the lower hole, any way, fixed that and finished up install 2day and it looks great, so far toe is off bcuz car pulls to right - so an alignment will come very soooon, and honestly it rides waay better than my almost blown stockers and springs, its smoother... for now, i say megans ftw..ill update soon

[Cone Junky]

ok sorry i brought this up, but prob fixed... all my fault stupid stupid.. anyway, when i installed the coil in the night i assumed i got the lower coil bolts in correctly but i really missed the lower hole, any way, fixed that and finished up install 2day and it looks great, so far toe is off bcuz car pulls to right - so an alignment will come very soooon, and honestly it rides waay better than my almost blown stockers and springs, its smoother... for now, i say megans ftw..ill update soon

[IanS]

ok sorry i brought this up, but prob fixed... all my fault stupid stupid.. anyway, when i installed the coil in the night i assumed i got the lower coil bolts in correctly but i really missed the lower hole, any way, fixed that and finished up install 2day and it looks great, so far toe is off bcuz car pulls to right - so an alignment will come very soooon, and honestly it rides waay better than my almost blown stockers and springs, its smoother... for now, i say megans ftw..ill update soon

Hahahaha, glad to hear you got it fixed. I thought it might be something along those lines.

[kylekinnamon1989]

ok. so i go to big o to get an alignment and they put it up on the rack, they were only able to do the toe and they said that the camber was already maxxedd out and that i need to get a camber kit, so i go went to a place and picked up some adjustable upper control arms and i swapped them out and i didnt really adjust them too much, i figure i just take it back to big o and have them do it. but i now when i turn it feelss soooo wierd, like the rear end is sliding or swaying really bad? is that just becauase they need to be adjusted?