lose to a c5?

[NoStickers]

Just a few moments ago I had the chance to race some old guy in a c5 corvette from a rolling 45mph. I decided not to b/c we were already going 10 over and it was coming up on my turn. Right before I turned off he even downshifted and given it some gas. How badly would I have been beaten? I was running at ~13psi and had dyno'd 250hp at 14.8psi. Just wondering b/c I never thought some old guy would try to initiate a race with me.

[matt4pl]

an older guy with a manual vette? not too many of those around... he'd have beenten you pretty badly i think. not horribly though

[240Knightrider]

Normally around here if its a old guy driving a vette its normally got something done real good to it.

[Ender_Zero]

those ls1's are crazy on top end. you prbably would have lost when the speeds got up to the high 70's

[MainEvent212]

no way, the vette woulda pulled hard from the get go and kept ahead...trust me it's happened to me before...and i dynoed at 210whp at 10psi...they told me it was 8 but i think that's too low for 210whp and stock t25...

anyhow...vettes run 12s stock

[NoStickers]

it looked stock to me but i didnt think id win anyway. wouldnt have been worth a ticket or wrecking. makes me want a bigger turbo though.

[NoStickers]

i made 204hp at 7 psi so why wouldnt you make 210 at 8? i thought only zo6s would run 12s.

[240SXer]

Humm.. I've raced a 2000 Auto C5, from a 20mph roll and I pulled on him till about 120mph when we let off. They only run like mid 13s guys. They're not all zo6s. It was probably an auto if a old guy was driving it, an auto C5 runs low 14s. Not 12s.

[NoStickers]

it sounded a lot like he down shifted. i might have been hearing things but he definitely gave it some gas like he wanted to go.

[matt4pl]

14's? um, no. auto camaros still run 13's IIRC. its possible to maybe get a C5 6spd into the high 12's. and Z)6's own. got to ride along in one at the auto-x. torque and fat power band = me nearly soiled myself. getting shoved into your seat like that is great. u turbo guys know what i mean....

[Mr1der]

a Z06 coulda been nasty, but if it was just a stock C5, it'd maybe be interesting given the power to weight on both cars.

[240SXer]

A C5 has about 300whp, and weighs 3200lbHis 1991 240sx weighs about 2600lb and has about 250whp

10.4lb/per HP for the 24010.6lb/per HP for the C5

The power/weight is almost identical.

[Ender_Zero]

i thought vettes were lighter than that.....

[240SXer]

Nope.. they're not. That's a Hardtop 6sp too (lightest vette). It's actually 3250lb.

[entity]

Alot of my Camaro friends run mid to low 13's, I don't see why a C5 would make 12's. Where in Oviedo are you Stickers?

[MainEvent212]

i think you're a little biased 240sxer...no offense, cuz i'd love to beat a Z06 vette (which i always assume they are for my safety) but i think if we look the numbers up we'd be a little more safe in our assumption...

[MainEvent212]

nvm. we're talking about the c5...i guess that's not the Z06?

[matt4pl]

C5 is the current generation of vettes. Z06 is just one model of the C5. either way, if it was a 6spd hardtop, id have beaten you. the Z06 is lighter then the hardtop, i believe... and its got 405hp...

[Bubba1]

Uh, the only way a 240sx is going to beat a C5 is if the C5 driver doesn't know he's being raced.

[240SXer]

Well, out here at LACR, I run 13.6 or so (6speed). stock C5 runs about the same or slower. that's all I know. I got to the track a LOT. I know a C5 can run faster (maybe even 12s) at a lower elevation track (this is 2700ft) but all i'm saying is if it were a 6sp hardtop I think you would either hold really well or have beat it. You guys are acting like a C5 is faster than it is. It's my favorite car, and has been since 96 when I first saw the C5. But it does not mean i'm going to come up with untrue stuff about it.

The fact is a C5 comes stock with a Auto transmission (yes, believe it or not the manual is an OPTION), auto C5s are rated at 13.8 by all the mags. 6speed is 13.3 usually. And a Auto convertable is usually like 14.2. Nobody said it was a Z06, if it were a Zo6 you'd have your *** handed to you. zo6 not only has 50 more hp, but it has a close ratio transmission and is lighter. But I doubt it was a zo6. There is a 90% chance it was a auto hardtop. And just because a car is capable of running a certian time does not meant he average driver is capable of running it. And i'm not bias against anything because if anything I like Corvettes more than 240s.

[NoStickers]

haha i forgot to mention he flipped his cigarette at me. it made me mad at first but later i thought it was funny.

entity: I live on lockwood

[AznRide]

man, i beat c5's all the time at the track. When i had slicks, i beat them like a car or more, but without slicks, i still can beat them like by .2 or .3 seconds. I raced a vette on the highway once, kept up with him until the end of my 5th gear then he started to pull away. Now i wish i have a 6th speed transmission.

[MainEvent212]

so you topped out 5th gear?

[entity]

haha i forgot to mention he flipped his cigarette at me. it made me mad at first but later i thought it was funny.

entity: I live on lockwood

Cool, I love off of University. We're pretty close heh. Where did you get your SR done at, or did you do it yourself?

[Mr1der]

Uh, the only way a 240sx is going to beat a C5 is if the C5 driver doesn't know he's being raced.

no silly, he's modded, so it's possible...

it'd be fairly even until the hit higher speeds, then he'd get straight walked.

well, he might get the jump on the vette depending on gearing, but I kinda doubt it.

only one solution, need more boost:D

[NoStickers]

entity: i did the swap myself. whats colors the 240? you do a swap?

[Ubernoober]

I must congratulate you on your calmness and maturity. By being cool, you saved the world from another unnecessarily destroyed 240 and yourself from a hospital bill. Best to save that stuff for a track day. I'm saddened everytime I come on these boards and read about another wrecked 240. They are rare enough as it is. You sir are a rare and fine individual. :ylsuper

[AznRide]

what car do you drive ubernoober? That's what I thought. Another rookie tries to step up.

[SmithSR]

I must congratulate you on your calmness and maturity. By being cool, you saved the world from another unnecessarily destroyed 240 and yourself from a hospital bill. Best to save that stuff for a track day. I'm saddened everytime I come on these boards and read about another wrecked 240. They are rare enough as it is. You sir are a rare and fine individual. :ylsuper

So true! I remember not so long ago, when there were 3 different threads on the first page alone, about members who had wrecked their cars. That's either bad driving or really bad karma, or both..

[Asleep Altima]

ive raced a c5 before in the alty and at 120 i was at his rear right quarter panel... theyre not ALL that fast. 14's is realistic for your average vette, especially an auto. just because they are capable of low 13's, doesnt mean that every guy out there in one can manage that low of a time. http://www.y-car.com/mshaf01/html/c5.html