KONI Fsd shocks

[mcheddadi]

Price would be around 750$ for the 4 damperscool fact: These dampers are Original equipment on Lamborghini Gallardos



Background info:

The first shock absorber offering superior road-holding without compromising comfort.

KONI introduces FSD, the first no-compromise shock absorber in the world. A revolutionary new technique which combines the benefits of firm and comfortable suspension in a single perfect shock absorber. Firm for sporty driving on even road surfaces. Comfortable for a smooth ride on uneven road surfaces.Most shock absorbers are designed to offer improved handling through a firmer ride OR to maximize ride comfort. And complete computerized systems can deliver both comfort and performance, but at too high a price for the average consumer's vehicle.

The KONI FSD shock combines excellent road holding and handing characteristics with high comfort levels. Firmness for sporty driving on even road surfaces. Smoothness for a comfortable ride on uneven road surfaces. It's possible via KONI's patented Frequency Selective Damping technology — technology that actively controls the damping level on the basis of the vehicle's body and suspension movement frequency.

youtube video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-S0NqYCmTg

Tirerack review:http://www.tirerack.com/suspen...d.jsp

Testimonial on a 03 bmw 325ci:

I was initially worried that, despite the promises, they would make the car ride like an old Buick: soft, mushy and floaty. That is definitely not the case. When I drove away from the shop that did the install, my immediate impression was that they were significantly stiffer than the stock shocks. The car feels tighter, lower to the ground (even though it isn't), and just more stable and controlled in general. The difference is especially noticeable when cornering and changing lanes - the FSDs allow a lot less initial body roll than the stock sport shocks.

But the improvements in handling are absolutely nothing compared to how these things handle bumps. For most irregularities where the pavement is unbroken (dips, rises, gentle lumps, etc.) the car still feels stiff. But anything more abrupt (usually anything that breaks the pavement - potholes, expansion joints, sudden surface elevation changes) just gets soaked up. I'd say it takes anywhere from 50% to 80% of the edge off.

It's really almost surreal, because at no point does the suspension feel soft. Yet somehow, the same bumps that used to feel and sound like driving over exploding grenades just turn into muffled thumps.

The difference is especially noticeable when driving over a patch of rough pavement that has multiple bumps and abrupt ridges in succession. There's a stretch of southbound Route 1 just north of Boston that's like that, and it's a fairly sharp curve as well (just before the Mystic River bridge, for anyone in the Boston area). Going over it before used to be miserable: I'd feel the wheels hopping around, and the rear of the car sort of squirming as they lost contact with the road and then regained it. The night after I had the FSDs installed, I drove over it, and I actually first thought that the DOT had repaired the pavement. Even in a corner, the FSDs remain stiff with respect to the motion of the car, while simultaneously handling the bumps.http://www.bimmerfest.com/foru...35049

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We need to get a part of that sweet FSD damper action. My only gripe with the 3.5SE coupe is the rather harsh ride on my monthly 150miles trip between Montreal and Quebec, where the roads are s***.

if anyone wants to get some SWEET prototyping action and FREE DAMPERS, and if you are in either one of these states: Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennesee, Virginia, West, Virginiathen go here and post your INFO!http://www.koni-na.com/testfits.cfm

super easy to do.

also if you want to get a better chance contact them using their form to express your interest for the KONI-FSD dampers with a link to this poll here:http://www.koni-na.com/contact.cfm

and to go that extra mile, try calling them directly so they get that there is a demand for their dampers on our coupes! Don't forget to link them to here

contact info: KONI North America1961 International Way • Hebron • KY • 41048Telephone: (859) 586-4100 • Fax:(859) 334-3340
Modified by mcheddadi at 10:20 PM 12/5/2008

[mcheddadi]

Nice we got 25 peps already, anybody contact them?FREE DAMPERS

[adidas2go]

Mehdi, have you acutally contacted the R&D department of Koni and got conformation that they want to do the altima coupe, and they are willing to give away free dampers?

[08altima35]

these would be cool, but I'd still prefer qualitaaayy adjustable coil overs.

[mcheddadi]

Mehdi, have you acutally contacted the R&D department of Koni and got conformation that they want to do the altima coupe, and they are willing to give away free dampers?

from their site:

We will need your car for 3-5 days and in exchange you will receive free KONI product for your vehicle. Please fill out the application form below and we will contact you.

I have contacted them, and basically they said they're interested, since our car is so new.

they now just need to see that there is a big enough demand for their dampers on our cars ( thats were we all come in) and they will develop them for our cars.

simple as that

[adidas2go]

Cool, well good luck. Hopefully they like the numbers they see. Let me know if you want my help any, and Ill get on the phone with people.

[mcheddadi]

Cool, well good luck. Hopefully they like the numbers they see. Let me know if you want my help any, and Ill get on the phone with people.

yeah actually maybe you could help! they make their dampers with eibach springs as a combo package too, so maybe the fact that eibach already made dampers for the altima coupe could help. Since you where the prototyper for the springs, if you got some contacts at eibach that would be huge help if you could get them to phone up some peps at Koni. stillen could even be involved since they already sell the springs from eibach and eibach has some deals with KONI for the combo packages, they could become sellers of the KONI-fsd dampers and koni/eibach comboshttp://www.koni-na.com/fsdeibach.cfm

lets get this rolling FTW!

[adidas2go]

I'll start calling around on Monday. I know the guys at Eibachs R&D so Ill ask them for Koni's R&D info. Who knows, maybe they would send a set out to Eibach for testing as part of a complete kit.

[mcheddadi]

I'll start calling around on Monday. I know the guys at Eibachs R&D so Ill ask them for Koni's R&D info. Who knows, maybe they would send a set out to Eibach for testing as part of a complete kit.

Thanks blake!

this is why I love NICO

[Mr.Coupe]

Hey mcheddadi do you know if these dampers will lower the car more if we have the Eibach prokit? I want a set, but damn dude my car scraps on speed bumps in my schools parking structure. Any lower and I would have to drive slow as hell. I live in LA. The roads are not lowered car friendly.

Ricky C.

[3ugene]

SEDAN?!

But yeah... would rather get quality coils... whatever happened to DDM tuning? or the other one?

[adidas2go]

No, your car wouldn't lower anymore.

[mcheddadi]

Hey mcheddadi do you know if these dampers will lower the car more if we have the Eibach prokit? I want a set, but damn dude my car scraps on speed bumps in my schools parking structure. Any lower and I would have to drive slow as hell. I live in LA. The roads are not lowered car friendly.

Ricky C.

well the car would be lower than if you kept the OEM springs with the KONI-fsd dampers, but they won't be lower than what they are now lol.

SEDAN?!

But yeah... would rather get quality coils...

the advantages over coil overs is clear for these dampers, you get firm suspension for cornering for acceleration squat and for any sporty maneuver, but you get COMFORT for sucky roads, for 18inch + wheels , for potholes etc.

Unless you get some electronically controlled shocks (those cost 2000$+ btw) these are the BEST thing to happen since digressive dampers. you get the same progressive damping at low shaft speeds to help control car body motion like roll, dive and squat. At this point, it functions like a typical stiff racing shock absorber. but then the magic happens on uneven ****ty, roads, it's like riding on clouds

[08altima35]

Hey mcheddadi do you know if these dampers will lower the car more if we have the Eibach prokit? I want a set, but damn dude my car scraps on speed bumps in my schools parking structure. Any lower and I would have to drive slow as hell. I live in LA. The roads are not lowered car friendly.

Ricky C.

the shocks would more than likely decrease the amount you rub when going over bumps because they will be stiffer.

[AzureCoupe0888]

Hey i filled out that form thing. but it does say on the website that they are looking for an 08 pontiac G8 GT. But if they will take our car I am definitly game for this i would love this

[dangeris]

Called the guys in Koni North America this morning and left a message with one of the guys in the R&D dept. Hopefully I'll get a call back in the next couple of hours. if not, I'll them again until I physically talk to them. I'll keep you guys posted.

BTW, their facility is only like 8 hours away from me

[mcheddadi]

Called the guys in Koni North America this morning and left a message with one of the guys in the R&D dept. Hopefully I'll get a call back in the next couple of hours. if not, I'll them again until I physically talk to them. I'll keep you guys posted.

great!!

BTW, their facility is only like 8 hours away from me

LOOOL!

I'll start calling around on Monday. I know the guys at Eibachs R&D so Ill ask them for Koni's R&D info. Who knows, maybe they would send a set out to Eibach for testing as part of a complete kit.

so did you manage to call them blake?

[dangeris]

Well guys, I've got bad news.

Todd called me back and told me that they WON"T be doing any after market shocks for our car. In fact, he said that they had already done R&D for the altima, specifically on the SER. However, early this year, Nissan decided to pull the plug on the project thus not producing the shocks. With the high price of tooling and whatever else needed to make the FSD, a joint venture with Nissan was crucial to make this happen..but....

To make this happen, there needs to be at least a couple of thousand orders which I doubt they would get from here.

Oh well back to the drawing board

I'm bummed now

[BigDankCloud]

This news is very disappointing. I love the way the car handles so far when driving aggressively with the eibachs, just not how it handles the New England potholed, plow torn, ice heaved, and all around shoddy roads. If every road around here was new pavement, I'd be perfectly fine save for the occasional speed bump scrape.

[dangeris]

This news is very disappointing. I love the way the car handles so far when driving aggressively with the eibachs, just not how it handles the New England potholed, plow torn, ice heaved, and all around shoddy roads. If every road around here was new pavement, I'd be perfectly fine save for the occasional speed bump scrape.

I'm with ya Cloud, living in the north east does suck..especially in the winter

[mcheddadi]

Well guys, I've got bad news.

Todd called me back and told me that they WON"T be doing any after market shocks for our car. In fact, he said that they had already done R&D for the altima, specifically on the SER. However, early this year, Nissan decided to pull the plug on the project thus not producing the shocks. With the high price of tooling and whatever else needed to make the FSD, a joint venture with Nissan was crucial to make this happen..but....

To make this happen, there needs to be at least a couple of thousand orders which I doubt they would get from here.

Oh well back to the drawing board

I'm bummed now

damn that sucks, maybe they could do a joint venture with stillen ?

maybe blake can help, or at least since there are already many applications of the fsd shocks, we could use one for another car, can't be that hard...

anybody knows if one of these car share similar damping settings as the altima coupe?

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there must be a way. stillen maybe can contact nissan, or something!

[mrodrig2]

I doubt you can use a set for a different application. It's not just the rates.. you also have to take into account physical differences between the shocks like dimensional clearances, mounting points, etc.

[dangeris]

Are you freakin kidding me? They make an FSD for the KIA Sorento but not for our coupes? Hell has surely frozen over!

Joint venture with Stillen is a good idea though!

[mcheddadi]

I doubt you can use a set for a different application. It's not just the rates.. you also have to take into account physical differences between the shocks like dimensional clearances, mounting points, etc.

that can be custom fabed up, the thing to know is the dampers rates of the coupe, anybody know them? blake do you think eibach knew or had access to that information when they designed the spring? if you could ask them for front and rear rates that would be nice, I'll try to find a match with the other fsd kits for the other cars

[mrodrig2]

Its not just spring rates. Travel is very important unless you want to bottom out your car or bust the strut. And to build on the mounting point fabrication comment... the mounting sleeves on the struts look like they are slip fit, pressed on or perhaps are cast as part of the piston casing (someone who has removed their front struts can comment if they know). I don't see how you can dismantle it without damaging the piston casing. You'd have to get lucky and hope that there's a car with similar mounting dimensions.

Even with custom fab, that extra cost is more than most can pay for. These would surely be one-off parts done by a custom shop and not the widely available product you are envisioning. I doubt any company could legally purchase Koni shocks and retrofit them for another use with the intent of re-selling or redistributing them on their own.

It's great that everyone is expressing interest in after-market parts for the Altima coupe, but keep in mind that its only a little more than a year old - No need to rush! The after-market support from companies like Stillen and Racingline is already there and I'm sure other companies will fall in line soon too.

[mcheddadi]

It's great that everyone is expressing interest in after-market parts for the Altima coupe, but keep in mind that its only a little more than a year old - No need to rush! The after-market support from companies like Stillen and Racingline is already there and I'm sure other companies will fall in line soon too.

lol, it's moslty because of this forum that we got companies to get soo involved .

[adidas2go]

True story. Dude, I've been slammed with **** at work latley and I'm not getting any breaks during the day to make a string of phone calls about this. I will try to make time tomorrow. Sorry about that.

[mcheddadi]

[adidas2go]

dude, I'm a failure

[mcheddadi]

dude, I'm a failure

bahahahaha