KAT with greddy kit wont start?????

[andrewdees]

Over the past few days we have been installing the greddy kit with the FMIC, everything is hooked up but it wont start. the fuel pump is turning on because you can hear it when you turn the key. we were unsure about the injectors since the harnesses that come with the kit have 2 black wires coming off of them, we were unsure how to connect the injectpor harness wires to the factory wires. if anyone has any info we would appreciate it. thanx!

-drew

[Structure240sx]

pull ur spark plugs and look for fuel in the cylinder or smell for it. that way u'll know if the injectors are squirting

[GEO]

YEHH GREEEEDDDDY KIT

[andrewdees]

yeah we did that and there is fuel in all cylinders, there is also spark in all cylinders, but it wont crank. it tries to and sometimes it sounds like it catches for a second, but then it just keeps on cranking. i know the kit is designed for OBD-2 cars, and we think we may have an OBD-1 car. is there any way to make it work?

[s86d]

where are you at in vero beach ill be up there this wknd... unless your not in FL then ill just goof off like normal

[andrewdees]

off of 4th street. 12th avenue

still no luck on the car either guys. we need help, the whole kit is bolted up but it just cranks and cranks and cranks, but no start =(

the light on the E-manage is green so that means that there is no problem with it, the injectors are putting fuel into the cylinders, and the spark plus are firing, so we have fuel and spark, but it still wont start. ahhhhhhh

-drew

[WDRacing]

What size injectors are you using? Is your timing set to stock?

WD

[WDRacing]

One more thing, if you flood it, it won't start. So before you try to start it, pull the fuel pump fuse, or I believe with the throttle at WOT during startup, the ecu doesn't allow the injectors to fire. Either way, you need to kill the fuel. With the throttle at WOT crank the engine over for a min so all the fuel gets pushed out of the exhaust valves. So your starting with an empty combustion area. You also don't want to keep pooring fuel in without the motor starting, you'll wash the oil off of the piston walls. Which isn't good unless you like scratches and loss of compression.

You also wanna make sure your plugs aren't completely fouled.

WD

[MikeMurphy]

And you also dont want to run your starter motor for a minute straight

You may want to consider just taking out your plugs for awhile to clear out the fuel.

[WDRacing]

Ok I didn't actually mean for an entire minute. Just for a few seconds at a time 2 or 3 times.

WD

[bruinbear714]

Did you guys hook up the e-manage correctly? There's a IGNITION WIRE that needs to be hooked up, along with the MAF wire...

It goes something like:

FROM MAF->into emanage -> out to maf pin on ecuFROM ECU IGN -> into emanage -> out to distributor

[C-Kwik]

I doubt the ignition wire is an issue. While you do want to hook it up, it should not prevent it from starting. Make sure you've wired it properly. Particularly the MAF wires. Make sure you did not cross them up either.

[Structure240sx]

what i dont is that its cranking, getting fuel, getting spark. the only thing i can think of is a major air leak or the timing is way off. did u take out teh distributor for any reason? i just read that sometiems it kinda starts so maybe the maf is wired wrong

[BomexS13]

yeah we did that and there is fuel in all cylinders, there is also spark in all cylinders, but it wont crank. it tries to and sometimes it sounds like it catches for a second, but then it just keeps on cranking. i know the kit is designed for OBD-2 cars, and we think we may have an OBD-1 car. is there any way to make it work?

I noticed that you have a 95, aren't the 95's an OBD-1 car? Maybe thats the reason why it dont work.

[BomexS13]

Isn't it possible to re-program the e-manage? Buy like a profec support tool or something, and have a greddy authorized shop re-program it?

[bruinbear714]

Also, make sure the rotary switches are correct on the emanage unit. It should be set to 2 - 0 - 6 . You can access the switches by removing one of the side covers.

[WDRacing]

Isn't it possible to re-program the e-manage? Buy like a profec support tool or something, and have a greddy authorized shop re-program it?

Kinda defeats the purpose of a plug n play type of turbo kit...

[BomexS13]

Kinda defeats the purpose of a plug n play type of turbo kit...

Yea, but I'm set on the Greddy kit for my 95(engine). I've browsed through out 17 pages of this forum alone. Can't find an answer.

[andrave]

far as I can tell it would need reprogrammed to work on a non OBDII car. I asked greddy about it a while ago and they said that they don't support it for the earlier years...

[BomexS13]

that just sux

[andrave]

well, if you have the support tool you can do a lot of it yourself, and take it to a dyno with a wideband for final tuning...

[MECPInstaller]

so let me get this straight there's no way the greddy kit will work on a 95 240 ? or can the emanage be reprogrammed with something like a profec E-01

[BomexS13]

so let me get this straight there's no way the greddy kit will work on a 95 240 ? or can the emanage be reprogrammed with something like a profec E-01

That's what it says in the Enjukuracing.com. 95 240 needs to get the Greddy Profec E-01 to re-program the emanage.

-drew, maybe that's why your turbo aint working.

[MECPInstaller]

is it hard to program the emanange I've never done anythign like that before i know alil basic computer programming:)

[BomexS13]

is it hard to program the emanange I've never done anythign like that before i know alil basic computer programming:)

I heard that the emanage is protected by a "password". You have to have an authorized Greddy mechanic to do it.

[andrave]

if you get the support tool you can do it yourself, but you won't have access to the base map. from what I understand that is what is password protected.well, on some of them anyway.rumor has it the program is floating around in cyberspace...

[BomexS13]

Drew...is your car running yet?

[rn240sx]

Hey If u wana get the fuel out of the motor,Pull the spark plugs OUT, disconnect all the injector harness' and start cranking the motor over. That will push out all the fuel from the chamber thru the spark plug holes..!!! it will look like a guiser of fuel shooting out..heheYou may also wana get new plugs since you prob fouled them out.Good luck

[BomexS13]

any updates on this? I'm really cuious if you're able to do it or not. I have a 95 DE in my s13 and I'm looking at the Greddy kit for an upgrade.

[doctorj240]

there should not be any problem using the greddy kit in a 95. in fact, i used the wiring diagram out of a 95 took hook up all the emanage wires in my 96.