kae parts for "allmotor"

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cornuts
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ok i got the 240 im getting a spear sohc from the local junk yard next month and i know everybody says building a ka all motor takes alot of $ but im going to be building it through out the year and i will be buying recomended parts.. im trying to spend more money on the engine than body work or rims etc.. so i just need some power proven parts for my build i'll probly do it my self with some help...ill take some help please


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o&jperformace

have all the single cam parts your ever going to need.

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What are you doing with the car?

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T1ghtJDMDRIFT wrote:What are you doing with the car?
hes looking for top end domination

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Bro.

I'm not into that kinky s***.

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Its ok, we all overcome our fears sooner than later.

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cornuts
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xX RB Xx wrote:
hes looking for top end domination
"yea baby" na i just wanted to do a nice build, like a pistons, rods with a ported head, bigger valves, springs...ect. without ebay!! "the only problem" is that this car will be going to california so i think i cant go itb's not sure yet im still about that

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yea man they do have evrything! thanks

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why don't you go for twin cam instead. i guess you want to be different.

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Dare I ask why you want to go through with an all motor build...?

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I'd recommend searching out threads for ppl who spent time and money N/A building either the Sohc or Dohc KA. Unless it's an all out racing Sohc built only for the track, the results are going to be very underwhelming in comparison to how much money you're going to sink into it. Even the fully built professional racing N/A Sohc's only make a little over 300hp, but they cost like $30,000 to build and need to be rebuilt regularly.

For a mild street build, I'd say you'll be lucky to get to 185hp.

There are threads on the topic, so search for them. Just be sure of what you're getting yourself into.
Modified by simmode1 at 12:20 PM 5/12/2009

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mattblancarte wrote:Dare I ask why you want to go through with an all motor build...?
well like said before its going to california and its too hard have an sr's and rb's or even a ka-t that pass smog, and i just want to sick with the motor it has, i dont want all kinds of modification. and no im not trying to be different because alot of people build ka's, im just trying to keep it a** original as i can but fast!!!

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cornuts wrote: well like said before its going to california and its too hard have an sr's and rb's or even a ka-t that pass smog, and i just want to sick with the motor it has, i dont want all kinds of modification. and no im not trying to be different because alot of people build ka's, im just trying to keep it a** original as i can but fast!!!
original and fast doesn't equate in these motors.

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well ok im talking 12 sec car but at least run just a tad bit more than a stock sr.. i already had an 89 with an sr so its just somthing i wanted to do. but dam everybody's na saying it

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If your looking to make 200whp your gona have to spend big money. Its isnt worth it, but the sohc ka can make good power. Im going with a cam from pdm, custom itb's with a plenum to run a maf, and an ecu from jwt(maybe). They say the ecu is about 15hp at the crank, + the cam and itb's, header and exhaust id say around a 30-35hp increase at the crank.

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carkook wrote:If your looking to make 200whp your gona have to spend big money. Its isnt worth it, but the sohc ka can make good power. Im going with a cam from pdm, custom itb's with a plenum to run a maf, and an ecu from jwt(maybe). They say the ecu is about 15hp at the crank, + the cam and itb's, header and exhaust id say around a 30-35hp increase at the crank.
whats big money 4-6 grand? and yea its worth in my case idk about other people but i take pride in my cars...its not how much u spend its the time and effort u put in it that makes it worth it

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I couldnt tell you exactly, but I would say definatly a new crank. The stock ka crankshaft is not designed for high revving whatsoever, and higher rpm's is where all motor 4 bangers are going to make power. Search for na ka builds, hard to find but it has been done before.

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cornuts wrote: but dam everybody's na saying it
God forbid people on the internet try to tell you you are wasting your money and time.

They are right by the way.

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T1ghtJDMDRIFT wrote:
God forbid people on the internet try to tell you you are wasting your money and time.

They are right by the way.
SOHC FOR LIFE FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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There was a Rebello built GT3 ka24e(304hp) on Guam for sale for $6k, so it shouldn't cost $30k for them to build it. Another option besides itb's is to use some good side draft carbs, Mikuni 44's are the favorite here on the islands. There's a sohc 240 on Guam that ran 13.3s with a n/a ka24e and carbs. Also ka24de's that ran low and mid 14s. I'm assuming they used slicks and had lsd. Sorry no pics or vids.

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tell me more about these side draft carb mikuni 44's on the kae bro sounds intresting...what mods would i need to make? i seen the itb set up would it be the same way and sence its carborator i would no fuel injection that means no fuel rail or injectors! "dam the engine would look so much cleaner"

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dude i think its awesome you are building up your single cam . i just got done rebuilding mine and want to buy another to either build itb or turbo, cant really decide yet. nismoparts.com and importperformanceparts.com have some sohc stuff and pdmracing.com. and i dunno what everyones problem is about the sohc the dohc isnt so much better, one more cam "safely tuned" by nissan, 4 more valves, and a sweet a** knock sensor......awesome something else electronic that can f--- up for 10 more hp. SOHC FTMFW

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corn, it doesnt take $30grand to make a good motor, whoever said that is clearly wrong. it wont even take 5grand. you wont like that kind of setup on the street(and May not last long). But it can be done and its done all the time. What are your intentions with the car? race only? smog legal? comfortable? race gas vs. pump gas? I have built a couple that run on the street(bit rough).....but fun as hell.

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I have not gotten a chance to do a dohc yet but it will make more power than the sohc with the right parts. I just found my dohc under some junk in the garage but i dont see myself toying with anytime soon.


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240ka24 wrote:I have not gotten a chance to do a dohc yet but it will make more power than the sohc with the right parts. I just found my dohc under some junk in the garage but i dont see myself toying with anytime soon.
When stayin NA, the DOHC doesnt make more power then the SOHC. I want to know why people keep saying this when it is obvious there has been alot more 200+whp SOHC. Explain why the DOHC would make more power and give an example, because I havnt heard of any 200+whp DOHC ka's.

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WHATS UP BRO LOOK I WANT A DAILY DRIVER BUT I DO GO THE TRACK PRITTY MUCH EVERY OTHER WEEKEND AND ON THE OTHER HAND I DO SOME DRIFTING ALSO. I REALLY LIKE 24DSX1'S IDEA ABOUT CARBING IT

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you just need the right parts to make the dohc stronger


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carbing the motor is good but will it be legal where the car will be driven?


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cornuts
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its the ka24e sohc and im miami now but will be in the sacramento area..i know itb's are illegal but the law never says nothing about carb's being illegal

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dont know but im sure that you cant carb in california. tooo bad. sorry i dont know anything about smog stuffs. check on some other forums and see what you can get away with and still be smog legal. Increasing airflow, compression and rpm.....


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