*** KA24DE RATTLE NOISE! WHAT CAN IT BE ***

[scottyvEE3]

if you look at the first video, this is what my car sounds like when i turn it on. and sometimes it takes awhile to turn on i just keep craknking it. the second video thats how it sounded before the car actually stopped trying to move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kseETkevAiU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

can someone tell me what the problem might be? or has anyone ever experienced this noise before. NOTE a week before this noise started happening my upper timing chain guard cracked.

i dont think the previous owner before me has done a oil change after a year of the car sitting in his driveway. when i first took off my valve cover to remove the cracked upper timing chain this is what it looks like..


Modified by scottyvEE3 at 4:51 PM 10/3/2008

[s13_maJiK]

Sounded like a knock

[scottyvEE3]

yea but what can it possibly be? a piston , a bearing?

[ZOMG.SR20]

it sounds like you need a new motor to me

[scottyvEE3]

i dont think soo.. lol most ppl telling me it might be a piston rod

[LayNLow240]

Yeah, sounds like a rod knocking. Swap time.

[scottyvEE3]

if it is a rod. what if i replaced it? would it run the same. better, or worse?

[ZOMG.SR20]

swap the motor KA's are a dime a dozen

[scottyvEE3]

swap the motor KA's are a dime a dozen

dime a dozen... meaning??

[240sxvaj]

if it is a rod. what if i replaced it? would it run the same. better, or worse?

dont do half a$$ motor builds.if your gonna replace a rod might aswell just do the whole motor build and you will be set

[scottyvEE3]

dont do half a$$ motor builds.if your gonna replace a rod might aswell just do the whole motor build and you will be set

yea thats true, i wanna do a KA motor built to put a turbo, but where can u find or get a good KA with somewhat low miles, cuz i was also thinking about gettin a sr20det

[240sxvaj]

yea thats true, i wanna do a KA motor built to put a turbo, but where can u find or get a good KA with somewhat low miles, cuz i was also thinking about gettin a sr20det

BOOOOOO!dont go sr, keep it KA you will love it when you turbo charge it.if you have buddies who owns SR and KA-T's then compare them and see what you would go with.SR is a amazing motor but then i love the KA TQ, it just throws you to your seat especially with the small little t25 i had.

[scottyvEE3]

BOOOOOO!dont go sr, keep it KA you will love it when you turbo charge it.if you have buddies who owns SR and KA-T's then compare them and see what you would go with.SR is a amazing motor but then i love the KA TQ, it just throws you to your seat especially with the small little t25 i had.

haha yea i hear ppl say go with KA-T but how with this motor i have lol its like all crapped on and ****

[240sxvaj]

haha yea i hear ppl say go with KA-T but how with this motor i have lol its like all crapped on and ****

that is because its telling you to do a fully built on it.she will come out moaning like a virgin when your KA is done LOL!you will also be more satisfied

get it build and then come back to talk to me when you get it running lol!

[scottyvEE3]

that is because its telling you to do a fully built on it.she will come out moaning like a virgin when your KA is done LOL!you will also be more satisfied

get it build and then come back to talk to me when you get it running lol!

so0 what should i flush out my engine and get all new internals.

[s13_maJiK]

Get a whole engine Overhaul, take it to a machine shop they'll do everything you need for a rebuild

[scottyvEE3]

engin

Get a whole engine Overhaul, take it to a machine shop they'll do everything you need for a rebuild

engine overhaul?!

[s13_maJiK]

Block remachined cleaned, and checked for cracks and if everything is still in spec and useable, same with head, Crank balanced, New bearings, new rings, headgasket, front and rear main seal, all new gaskets for eveything, If pistons and rods are fine reuse otherwise get new ones, you still might have to get oversized pistons if the block is too far out of spec to make of for the bigger bore. Valves machined all clearances checked, camshafts checked to see if they are in spec. Pretty much make everything in your engine brand new.

[240sxvaj]

Block remachined cleaned, and checked for cracks and if everything is still in spec and useable, same with head, Crank balanced, New bearings, new rings, headgasket, front and rear main seal, all new gaskets for eveything, If pistons and rods are fine reuse otherwise get new ones, you still might have to get oversized pistons if the block is too far out of spec to make of for the bigger bore. Valves machined all clearances checked, camshafts checked to see if they are in spec. Pretty much make everything in your engine brand new.

there is your answer i perfer going with a .20 bore because its like having a new block.i got my built KA done for only $1,100.it was a 7angle valve job, boreing it out, honed, and all the other stuff lol!

[scottyvEE3]

haha yea. 1100 seems cheap. but all the stuff he just said, i have nooo ideaa!! cuz im new to this whole tuning thing , not gonna lie. im a noob but welling to learn

[grecco28]

ok, there a some posibility could be valve sound, timing chain or conecting rod o piston pin you need to know wheres is the sound coming from you can easily find it a with stetoscope, you need to find if the sound comes of front the engine head or the timing chain area or the bottom o the engine depends on the sound came from...

[scottyvEE3]

ok, there a some posibility could be valve sound, timing chain or conecting rod o piston pin you need to know wheres is the sound coming from you can easily find it a with stetoscope, you need to find if the sound comes of front the engine head or the timing chain area or the bottom o the engine depends on the sound came from...

the sounds more towards the back of the engine down towards the headers end tip

[Coupe_love]

wow.. thats wicked.. its deff. bottom end.. if your head was making that noise.. youd be able to see it when the cover was removed.. My advice: pull the engine.. snatch the head.. rebuild the bottom end.. big forged internals.. and like they said.. dont go sr.. 2.4 > 2.0.. theres no replacement for displacement. besides if you get some junkyard engine.. theres no telling what could go wrong in like two weeks.. or even the day after you get it in.. spend the money.. youll be buying piece of mind.. when you build it youll know whats in it, not to mention the feeling of self satisfaction.. knowing that you did it yourself.. read all you want, you always learn more from hands on training. hell you could even put single cam pistons in it.. i heard they have higher compression under a dual cam head.. (feel free to correct me if im wrong)hope this helps.. Drift or die!

[scottyvEE3]

wow.. thats wicked.. its deff. bottom end.. if your head was making that noise.. youd be able to see it when the cover was removed.. My advice: pull the engine.. snatch the head.. rebuild the bottom end.. big forged internals.. and like they said.. dont go sr.. 2.4 > 2.0.. theres no replacement for displacement. besides if you get some junkyard engine.. theres no telling what could go wrong in like two weeks.. or even the day after you get it in.. spend the money.. youll be buying piece of mind.. when you build it youll know whats in it, not to mention the feeling of self satisfaction.. knowing that you did it yourself.. read all you want, you always learn more from hands on training. hell you could even put single cam pistons in it.. i heard they have higher compression under a dual cam head.. (feel free to correct me if im wrong)hope this helps.. Drift or die!

yea bottem end. seems like must of u guys know more about engines than i do.. lol so i wouldnt really know where to start and whats what =X

[Coupe_love]

well what do you want to know? get up with me.. lost1716 <yahoo messenger, if you have it.. ask away.. im sure one of us will have the answer..

[scottyvEE3]

well what do you want to know? get up with me.. lost1716 <yahoo messenger, if you have it.. ask away.. im sure one of us will have the answer..

dont have yahooo =X lol , just wanna know around roughly how much to do a ka engine rebuild

[Coupe_love]

well you could come across a piston and rod set for like 900 bucks... take your block to the machine shop.. get it cleaned up and honed or bored if need be.. depending on if you get bigger pistons or not.. youll probably have to have the crank balanced and micropolished since you have rod noise.. most shops will do it for around 3 or $400.. i got quoted 300 by my local machine shop to bore my block .20 over for my eclipse.. not too bad.. its expensive.. but worth it in the end to feel that pull of a fresh engine..

[scottyvEE3]

well you could come across a piston and rod set for like 900 bucks... take your block to the machine shop.. get it cleaned up and honed or bored if need be.. depending on if you get bigger pistons or not.. youll probably have to have the crank balanced and micropolished since you have rod noise.. most shops will do it for around 3 or $400.. i got quoted 300 by my local machine shop to bore my block .20 over for my eclipse.. not too bad.. its expensive.. but worth it in the end to feel that pull of a fresh engine..

i dont the "bore my block .20" part loL u have aim?!

[240sxvaj]

i dont the "bore my block .20" part loL u have aim?!

now this is the time to search

glw/ everything

[scottyvEE3]

now this is the time to search

glw/ everything

LMAO yea