Ka24de- dude thinks his miata can take a 240sx

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So i was ridin around tonight with billy in his 91 240sx, he gets a call and this dude wants to race him. Well he drove a 95 miata and bragged until we got to the street that a 240sx aint got nothin on the miata. Well it happened, and lets just say he got his a** handed to him. But now hes talking mess that he can take my single cam 240sx. So i told him to meet me at the drags and let everyone see him get beat and on film. Watch for it soon posted on http://www.unnaturalconcepts.bravehost.com feel free to see Billy's 240sx as well, and my single cam 240 that ol dude says he can take.

Question- will the short ram intake install work with a 90 single cam 240sx? Thanks


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Whats the poll for

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damn dawg you dont trust my info but you'll take my free stuff WTF! maybe I keep it nowI told you a short ram works fine ,just put the battery in trunk!

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i could only find the short ram with the de's. but thanks.

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no dont buy a short ram that you can make for 20$

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any short ram for $20 is no where near efficient

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not including filter of coarse; one 45* elbow from autozone or go to the pipe supply and get a 45* alluminum piece, and 3 couplers from same autozone.BAM your done or can go my route and buy $h&%ty ebay intake and chop chop. my chop job gets me plenty more than stock system response,and power. That whole efficiency deal is crap as long as your not retaRD'D and get a 1 1/2" pipe get 2 1/2" or 3" and a crappy ebay filter is great for flow but not filtering pimpin needs to back up, price doesnt always = efficient

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Uh.. I had my short ram fabricated, absolutely no issues once so over. (and it was like 18$?)

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Neither car was made for drag racing out the box... and it seems both of you guys are pretty much stock...

With drivers of equal skill, stock cars, a miata will essentially kill a 240sx in terms of drag & road racing...

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i guess he was a bad driver then because billy walked away from him easy in his de 240sx and i beat him once in my single cam.

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For their class, Miatas perform quite well. I dont understand why people just blow them off like there all pieces of crap. Help me understand...

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why does everyone think miatas can take 240's? Their just 1.8l dual cam motors.Can a 2.4 not handle that. Miata's arent pecies of s*** but id much rather own a 240sx.

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jlnissan240sx wrote:why does everyone think miatas can take 240's? Their just 1.8l dual cam motors.Can a 2.4 not handle that. Miata's arent pecies of s*** but id much rather own a 240sx.
Straight line acceleration for stock miata's & 240's are equivalent. 1.8L, but also 500lbs less weight, or something around there. Neither cars are particularly fast.

However, because of the lighter weight, and I believe better suspension stock - miata's own 240's in turns. Fixed up, it's anyone's game...

240sx is a sporty car.

Miata is a sports car.

I love 240's and all, but stock ones can only do so much.

And we don't have to "think miatas can take 240s", you can witness it.. Go to a road track event or an autox event...

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could not have said it better good job brokeAs240sx

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Your gonna make fun of other cars and you cant figure out a short ram intake

You know 240's are worthless for acceleration right?

Miata's are a bit lighter, and almost as much power.

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znelson wrote:Uh.. I had my short ram fabricated, absolutely no issues once so over. (and it was like 18$?)
And you either had a friend do it for parts cost or you have a craptastic Intake that has a worthless filter.

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i agree the filter alone should be right around that $ mark

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Im not makin fun of any cars, im talkin straight drag, no turns, and two stock cars. I dont know how good of a driver this guy was but a lot of people saw this race and he got his a** handed to him.

Short ram, whats that?

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The new Miatas are HOTT!! I want one, with a hard top o' course!


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looks like some brokeback mountain s*** this is a ka forum man

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jlnissan240sx wrote:Im not makin fun of any cars, im talkin straight drag, no turns, and two stock cars. I dont know how good of a driver this guy was but a lot of people saw this race and he got his a** handed to him.

Short ram, whats that?
those 2 stock cars in a straight line, it all boils down to the drivers.

Stock Miata has equiv 1/4 mile time +/- .2 seconds of a 240sx DOHC base model. Against a sohc, it does have a slight advantage.

It all boils down in the launch. If you guys are equivalent drivers, he's gonna win.

If you launch like no one's business, you are gonna win.

If you guys want to make things interesting, do what some of the old muscle car guys use to do - bracket racing.

You guess your 1/4 time, whether it's 4.5 seconds, or 20 seconds... closest time wins - now that's knowing your car... of course, that's probably a different kind of drag race that you guys aren't interested in since you are trying to beat eachother the normal way.

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jlnissan240sx wrote:looks like some brokeback mountain s*** this is a ka forum man
then why are we talking about drag racing...this has nothing to do with the ka forum...it belongs in the 240sx general or drag forum.... u should respect the elderly members posts

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jlnissan240sx wrote:looks like some brokeback mountain s*** this is a ka forum man
Try actualy going racing....Miata's are fast as hell through turns.They have pretty close to the same power a as a 240, they are lighter and have a more advanced suspension set up.You can find miata's routinly putting in faster time's then Vettes at your local autox.

Just cause the miata isn't a "cool" car, and it wont impress your buddies doesn't mean they aren't an increadbly well built/designed car.

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BIG_T wrote: then why are we talking about drag racing...this has nothing to do with the ka forum...it belongs in the 240sx general or drag forum.... u should respect the elderly members posts
Thank you BIG_T, it's good to see that people still do have manners!

As for jlnissan240sx.....



YOUR INSOLENT TONE WILL GET YOU PWN3D NOOB!!

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yall must be talkin about some super miatas because this one just aint cuttin it....as for my insolent tone, i know im not the almighty master of automotive engineering, but im no noob. Chill and go get yourself a sense of humor.

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wait a minute... are you one of the guys being talked about on this thread?

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interesting.

go ahead, take that video. show us all wrong how u can beat a miata senseless in ur stock sohc. I'm not saying you can't do it, just understand these "super miatas" are better out the factory. driver skill makes a huge diff here.

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ok thanks, when i show this video, is everyone just gonna say hes a bad driver?
Modified by jlnissan240sx at 10:55 PM 6/5/2006

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idk but since u are a fellow nicoian im going to beg u to keep it off the streets....the track is alot safer and it is funner...why well bc i have done both and now its all track baby!!!! trust me spend 20 bucks get real times and play it safe

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I like miatas and 240sbut miatas are little and lighter but are u stock?its about the driver, maybe that guy has issues. dont lisen to peeps like that, they got issues.

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BIG_T wrote:idk but since u are a fellow nicoian im going to beg u to keep it off the streets....the track is alot safer and it is funner...why well bc i have done both and now its all track baby!!!! trust me spend 20 bucks get real times and play it safe
Um, I think he is taking it to the track...
jlnissan240sx wrote:So i told him to meet me at the drags and let everyone see him get beat and on film.


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