ka-t how much is it gonna cost

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Well I am glad you made a decision. Please remember to at least crack the motor open and check it over. A new water pump would be a good idea on an sr as well. Those are prone to go. Courtesy Nissan is starting to carry alot of Silvia parts now and the prices are pretty descent. Good luck.


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your probably right, its a lot easier to do it while its outta the car then while its in the carthanks for the heads up

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That greddy oil pan is worth every penny as sr's are prone to spun bearings. Definitely a good investment.

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thanks ill have to take that into mind when i decide exactly how im going to do everythingthanks again for your help, if you have any more info please share

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matt6669 wrote:how much is it going to cost to do a ka-t the RIGHT way. none of this used part crap and none of this home made bs.
Thats not very nice. You just insulted a lot of KA-T guys

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There are SR guys looking for used/custom/home-made parts too. :\ If the piece in question serves its purpose and does a good job doing it, it's not crap IMO.

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No kidding, half of my set up is used. Guess what, if you install a new part it is used. Just be careful what you buy and do your reseach.

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hey i think the sr engine is a used part but we ka-t people dont ever consider it one? evil laugh

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98s14inaz wrote:That greddy oil pan is worth every penny as sr's are prone to spun bearings. Definitely a good investment.
As is every motor when starved of oil. Only buy the greddy pan if your going to do racing that involves high lateral G's or your stock one is ruined.

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wait if you put the greddy one on then the stock one is ruined or did i interprut that wrong or somethinghahahaim almost tempted to buy a salvage 240 but im kinda weairy (sp) ahhh i just wish i was loaded

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Reasons for upgrading to greddy oil pan:-Racingor-stock pan is trashed

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matt6669 wrote:...i guess im just comparing it to my wrx(which i now hate)...
What exactly do you hate about it? This has to be coming from a financial aspect, right? The WRX is the ONLY new car I'd get. (with the exception of a g35 and STi of course) And Im still kinda planning on getting one...

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Neejay wrote: What exactly do you hate about it? This has to be coming from a financial aspect, right? The WRX is the ONLY new car I'd get. (with the exception of a g35 and STi of course) And Im still kinda planning on getting one...
I just had a MO (mental orgasm) thinking about those cars.

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i would never ever buy another wrx in my life. Those cars are built like the biggest pos. the transmission in them suck so much its not even funny. I just had to go for a total rebuild on my trans and it only has 46 thousand miles on it and has never been to the track.

the trans is so weak if you put any power to it, they crumble.

now on the other hand i would buy a g35 in a second

financial has something to do with it, but when it comes down to it, i just hate the car, all it does is break on me so i figure i might as well build up a rwd car since thats my stylei use to have an 85 chevy-s10 long bed short cab, with a stroked 350 in it pumping some MASSIVE hp out of it. that truck was fun but was a little old for me

so 240 is where i am at now

just wish i could find one and build one hmmmm

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:Reasons for upgrading to greddy oil pan:-Racingor-stock pan is trashed
More oil capacitybetter baffles

An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure.

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Well the stock pan has no baffles, and $280 is a lot for a prevention you dont need if you dont race.

I agree though, if you have the cash to burn, that and rocker arm stoppers ($60) make a big difference when giving the SR a beating. I have both these mods and my SR has held together even when being revved passed 8000rpms (by accident of course).

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j spec are you online with aol right now just wondering cause i was wondering if i could talk to you and ask a few questions,im me mat mattt6669 if you don't mind

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:Well the stock pan has no baffles, and $280 is a lot for a prevention you dont need if you dont race.

I agree though, if you have the cash to burn, that and rocker arm stoppers ($60) make a big difference when giving the SR a beating. I have both these mods and my SR has held together even when being revved passed 8000rpms (by accident of course).
I am assuming this guy thinks he is going to drift with his SR powered 240. Hmmmmm drifting is a high lateral g autosport. I think the greddy pan is a good idea using that logic. Believe me if my KA had an aftermarket pan that had better baffles I would have it. I don't even drift and I would still buy it. Tearing a motor apart is a pain in the ***. If $280 would give me better odds of not having to rebuild my motor I am all for it. Oil starvation sucks.

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yeah i definitely hear you all on that one.spend 280 for a little bit more of security its worth it to me

trying to decide, do i buy a motor now before i have a sr, tear apart the motor with help from someone, build now forged internals (depending on how much its going to cost) and build my motor first, then get the car, its gonna cost a fortune tho 3 grand for motor and transmission, then probably like another 2 grand to put a few things that need to be better into the motor.

then we've got another 2 grand for catback, dp, bov, and i wanna do a front mount.plus another 300 for a radiator since everyone says upgrade radiator when you do fm.then i want to do turbo i just odn't have that much money to dump this sucks i wish i had maybe 3 grand more im my budget off the start dammn dammmn dammn

im thinking it almost looks better to buy an s13 even tho I REALLY DONT' WANT TO DO THAT

maybe a front end conversion might be in the future gahhhhh

i need to talk to some people one on one and get some opinions i think if anyone lives in northern nj or surrounding areas and wouldn't mind bsing with a newbie it would be greatly appreciated

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matt6669 wrote:i would never ever buy another wrx in my life. Those cars are built like the biggest pos. the transmission in them suck so much its not even funny. I just had to go for a total rebuild on my trans and it only has 46 thousand miles on it and has never been to the track.
I don't think that's really a fair assessment of the WRX. Granted, the transmission might be the weak link in the car but I've seen plenty of them last a long time with proper driving habits.

Anyway, one last thing to consider in the KA-T vs. SR debate is the availability of replacement engines. If your junkyard SR or 80,000 mile KA craps out on you, it's gonna be a hell of a lot easier to find a new KA then a new SR. A few hundred bucks gets you a very low mileage KA.

Not that anyone plans on blowing up an engine...

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Good point Mojo. Matt, about the upgraded radiator it isn't always necessary. I'm still using the KA radiator b/c mine works fine. Just don't get caught in bumper to bumper traffic during rush hour on a 90 degree day with like 90% humidity. However, I am saving for a Koyo, but since the weather is cooling down and I won't necessarily need one until like April.

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yeah but with people selling them for 300, i would rather buy the radiator first before i bought the ic.

i would do the turbo ka, but then i would probably have to pay someone and i hate paying people to do work for me it really bugs me, i like the satisfaction of doing it myself, and i think a turbo would be a little over my head at this point in time.

its just a lot of money off the bat and with the prices of 95 and newer 240's it makes it so much tighter for me, i really dislike the looks of the 94's etc, unless you do a front end conversion and thats a grand right there. gahhhhhh i hate decisions.i really wish i could talk to someone thats been in my position before, its tough be only 19 and plus i just took a new job doing architecture now so im on the books making less money that i was.

i think what im going to do is as follows.get a sr motor, tear it down make sure everything checks out aok (gonna need somebody's help with this)once the sr is back together, whatever money i have left i could probably spend on a car.the only problem is, i only have like 2 grand in the bank, and when i sell my wrx ill have like 7 grand from the sell of that. but i owe my dad 2 grand still for insurance, so thats back down to 7. so 7 grand for motor transmission car and HOPEFULLY some upgrades

soooo in my situation i would probably be better off with a 94 and older maybe i should just wait a little longer i just dno't nkow

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why dont you just get the car you want now and then save the extra money, and KEEP saving until you have the cash to do a new motor later. Just seems like youre in a really big hurry to do all this and if you rush it, you might not be too happy with the results.

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Only 7 grand for a WRX?

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matt6669 wrote:yeah i definitely hear you all on that one.spend 280 for a little bit more of security its worth it to me

trying to decide, do i buy a motor now before i have a sr, tear apart the motor with help from someone, build now forged internals (depending on how much its going to cost) and build my motor first, then get the car, its gonna cost a fortune tho 3 grand for motor and transmission, then probably like another 2 grand to put a few things that need to be better into the motor.

then we've got another 2 grand for catback, dp, bov, and i wanna do a front mount.plus another 300 for a radiator since everyone says upgrade radiator when you do fm.then i want to do turbo i just odn't have that much money to dump this sucks i wish i had maybe 3 grand more im my budget off the start dammn dammmn dammn

im thinking it almost looks better to buy an s13 even tho I REALLY DONT' WANT TO DO THAT

maybe a front end conversion might be in the future gahhhhh

i need to talk to some people one on one and get some opinions i think if anyone lives in northern nj or surrounding areas and wouldn't mind bsing with a newbie it would be greatly appreciated
Slow down a sec. The sr's internals are fine. I am just saying rebuild the stock stuff and clean it up. New rings, bearings, headgasket (cometic), seals, oil pump, water pump, new oil pan. You might go ahead and do the nismo thermo and cap. That motor will be fine with a fresh start.

Don't buy a fancy 2" thick bling radiator the fin count is too high. The stock radiator is .5" thick, the Koyo and others are 2" thick. You need a 1". There is a company that sells stock looking radiators now that have better cooling capabilities and cost $150.

Call Todd at fueled performance 4808970712

On side note, the KA will take whatever you throw at it as long as you don't skimp on fuel and timing management. 250-400whp on stock internals is very common. In fact alot of them are daily drivers.

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I am sort of in the same sitution as you... I have a 240, but I really want to turbo/swap at some point. However, I have basically NO money right now . Anyway, what I am doing, I am going to wait until I have enough money to do everything. I know it seems crappy to wait, but like said earlier I would rather have everything how I want it before I swap an engine or whatnot. I might do some stuff on the suspension as I get money, but I want a good $8k or so saved before I even think, "turbo..." That way I know I can do things right. But that is still a couple years down the road for me though... But the 240 is fun enough to be able to pass the time.

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7 grand for a wrx yes and no, thats what ill ahve left after i pay off my loan hahaha loans own me

i think i've decided what to do, buy an s13 coupe with a blown motor to save moneyand then spend the rest on motor and supporting mods for hte motor

then worry about suspension later

now i just gotta find peeps in nj for some hands on help lol lol

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Well I had to wait a year to get the SR and all the parts I have now. Still need a few more things here and there though, jeez I waited 2 years to get a 240sx. The wait while the upgrade commences is ten times worse than the wait for collecting money and parts.


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